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drray23

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3. not going to be productive

Reply to still_one (Original post)

Thu Sep 21, 2017, 03:59 PM

Sep 2017

To have a good debate, you need people to agree on facts and debate on policies that they propose to reach desired outcomes.
One can disagree on the desired outcomes or how to get there but one should at least agree on the facts.
Over the past decades, the GOP has fallen into that fact free way of thinking because they found out they can get elected that way.
Cassidy was interviewed on MSNBC recently and all he did was shouting at the host without answering the questions. Basically, spouting bald faced lies.

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CNN to host town hall debate Monday with Graham, Cassidy, Sanders and Klobuchar [View all] still_one Sep 2017 OP

Go for the jugular! Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #1

Go get em Bernie! SHRED Sep 2017 #2

:-) MuseRider Sep 2017 #5

not going to be productive drray23 Sep 2017 #3

"Hello, Senators... LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #4

unfortunately , most of them are wealthy enough that they could go on without insurance and be fine drray23 Sep 2017 #6

Cassidy is worth a hair over $2 million, with the average member of congress LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #8

No. Most of them aren't that wealthy to withstand something unexpected JI7 Sep 2017 #25

Good question. SHRED Sep 2017 #7

Thanks, SHRED. n/t LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #9

Since a lie would be easy, why bother asking? It's not like they'd be held to it. WinkyDink Sep 2017 #13

the Rs will simply obfuscate, lie, and double speak ollie10 Sep 2017 #18

I can't watch for health reasons... BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #10

A last minute debate is no substitute for considered deliberation on public policy bucolic_frolic Sep 2017 #11

Maybe some people will grasp the truth? And we're not getting anything else, so.... WinkyDink Sep 2017 #15

If the focus ISN'T on how the Cassidy/Graham bill will hurt a lot of people, and instead chooses to still_one Sep 2017 #16

Bernie will be there. What do YOU think will be the focus? WinkyDink Sep 2017 #17

it better not be single payer that is what Graham is hoping for...it needs to be against the GOP Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #21

I'm dead certain Schumer, Pelosi etc are deeply involved in planning this, and selecting who'd debat riderinthestorm Sep 2017 #31

I hope you're right. Remember when Sanders wanted to debate Trump? That was weird AF bettyellen Sep 2017 #33

Gotta use VERBATIM language! And pin them down on "assurances" and "guarantees" without penalty for WinkyDink Sep 2017 #12

I am pretty sure cassidy and graham are going to push the argument to states rights, that states still_one Sep 2017 #19

Will Jimmy Kimmel be in the audience? ButSeeYa Sep 2017 #14

This will be worth some debate watch parties! LongTomH Sep 2017 #20

I could see a schedule conflict excuse in the future tom_kelly Sep 2017 #22

Why is it hard to believe ? JI7 Sep 2017 #24

There is little political gain in it for him. Nt Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #28

He is from south Carolina JI7 Sep 2017 #30

You are correct. He is. Nt Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #32

You know what? I have spent a lot of time on here Naderizing Bernie - NBachers Sep 2017 #23

Depends where the focus is NB still_one Sep 2017 #29

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2017 #26

I like this but there is a difficult aspect to overcome when debating people who easily lie. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #27