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171. I support a multi-payer system but I don't know if it would have stopped our political situation

Fri Sep 22, 2017, 10:01 AM

Sep 2017

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from playing out the way it did.

2010 was a backlash to health care reform, something that would have happened with or without a public option. It also involved many Americans blaming Obama for not ending the Bush recession sooner.

In 2012 we won most of the Senate seats, including many in deep red states. And we would have won the House if not for gerrymandering.

2014 was looking fairly competitive but then it turned out to be a referendum on Barack Obama's supposed plans to let the ebola virus into the United States.

In 2015 Barack Obama turned a corner and started to become popular again. He was pretty well-like by Election Day 2016.

The 2016 election was all about the fake email scandal. Comey rigged the whole damn thing from beginning to end. If the election had turned on the issues we would have won.

The GOP's ability to steal elections has nothing to do with how liberal we are or are not. That doesn't mean that we should not look to establish a more liberal country. It simply means that the diabolical GOP tactics have historically had a lot of success and our stance on the issues were not going to change that IMO.

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this debate scares me.... samnsara Sep 2017 #1

I hope he will speak about why we need to save the ACA and why the GOP plan is murderous Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #3

He does not need to be the lead voice of the opposition to Trumpcare EffieBlack Sep 2017 #7

At least he was not the Democrat who called ACA crazy in MI karynnj Sep 2017 #350

If he does something that destructive leftynyc Sep 2017 #9

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2017 #107

And YOU don't speak for me lillypaddle Sep 2017 #118

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WOW lillypaddle Sep 2017 #130

Wow - that's pretty arrogant. I'm a progressive and you sure as hell don't speak for me EffieBlack Sep 2017 #132

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #145

Well, thank you SO much for explaining myself to me! EffieBlack Sep 2017 #150

Yet here you are smearing them anyway. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #153

Seems Legit lol. stonecutter357 Sep 2017 #152

Domo arigato Comrade Robato sharedvalues Sep 2017 #355

Spiritual leader? MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #155

Who anointed you the spiritual weather vane of the entire Democratic Party? NBachers Sep 2017 #159

If we lose the ACA Sanders is the last person I would blame. pangaia Sep 2017 #108

Hey, Gang, AlleganCarpenter Sep 2017 #164

This. CrispyQ Sep 2017 #183

Thank you. MuseRider Sep 2017 #188

You're making too much sense RandomAccess Sep 2017 #318

LOL, thanks. MuseRider Sep 2017 #326

Please call these senators Gothmog Sep 2017 #192

Yes! G_j Sep 2017 #232

Thanks for the phone numbers. Important calls. oasis Sep 2017 #247

Thank you for the nos. sprinkleeninow Sep 2017 #281

Done. Snackshack Sep 2017 #336

Scarborough and panel are crucifying him this morning. lamp_shade Sep 2017 #2

Really? jalan48 Sep 2017 #156

Were you watching? Was I wrong? What's your point? lamp_shade Sep 2017 #169

This is our source for this discussion? jalan48 Sep 2017 #170

I guess I struck a nerve. lamp_shade Sep 2017 #175

Not really. I just thought it might be important to give some context to the discussion. jalan48 Sep 2017 #178

Oh lamp_shade Sep 2017 #187

As long as the context doesn't reflect poorly on ehrnst Sep 2017 #305

Turn on tv. It is everywhere. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #269

Most journalists work for large corporations or conglomerates. Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #211

Are you smearing Rachel Maddow for working for MSNBC too? We aren't Luddites and bettyellen Sep 2017 #215

I will be watching Rachel Maddow tonight and AMJOY tomorrow Gothmog Sep 2017 #280

I'm sorry I'll miss Joy. Rachel is must see TV for me too! bettyellen Sep 2017 #286

I agree as to Rachel Gothmog Sep 2017 #289

Joy sat in for Lawrence tonight, so that was nice to see. Busy lady! bettyellen Sep 2017 #344

This is just laughable now. Corporations are not going anywhere, R B Garr Sep 2017 #250

Is MNSBC now bad? Gothmog Sep 2017 #279

Always on point... LexVegas Sep 2017 #4

Or maybe he is playing 3D chess Trumpocalypse Sep 2017 #5

Oh, please EffieBlack Sep 2017 #10

That isn't what happened. Instead, the Republicans renewed efforts to repeal ACA. yardwork Sep 2017 #15

You think the MFA bill prompted them to try to repeal the ACA again? TCJ70 Sep 2017 #25

The Republicans said that it did. yardwork Sep 2017 #268

You believe a word that they say? NickB79 Sep 2017 #315

Yes in fact they said that. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #270

bernie does not have the capacity for 3D chess Fresh_Start Sep 2017 #42

I think you're right. He is only ever able to insist on the rightness of his cause. Demit Sep 2017 #73

His cause may be right...but his tactics are not working. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #271

You don't know that. KPN Sep 2017 #306

Have you turned on the TV or read some op eds? It is not working. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #308

What is not working? KPN Sep 2017 #346

He has a very dualistic worldview. ehrnst Sep 2017 #179

Graham-Cassidy is not about healthcare. It's a way to fund tax cuts for the rich. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2017 #141

Single payer is the extreme in the United States The Wizard Sep 2017 #149

I agree that our for-profit system needs to be replaced brer cat Sep 2017 #287

You're kidding, right? NastyRiffraff Sep 2017 #177

We Critisized Obama For Not Taking The Extreme When He Was Pushing ACA.... global1 Sep 2017 #196

The dig at Hillary makes me want to run and buy Sanders book. lunamagica Sep 2017 #337

I said this last week leftynyc Sep 2017 #6

Exactly. Bernie is all about Bernie. EffieBlack Sep 2017 #12

Bernie is so much about Bernie CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #290

Absolutely. Which wouldn't be such an issue ehrnst Sep 2017 #300

However he doesn't CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #321

#Obamacare Alone Isnt Enough. RandiFan1290 Sep 2017 #8

...and that's a discussion we can have AFTER NEXT WEEK. brooklynite Sep 2017 #13

Exactly! Bernie's move doesn't help us. themaguffin Sep 2017 #90

It helps Bernie's brand. ehrnst Sep 2017 #302

So you would prefer nothing? Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #272

And that is exactly the goal of "repeal and replace" (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #304

Yes...and that is why we need to fight for the ACA and stop messing with MFA...which can't pass. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #309

Since January Sen. Sanders has organized 170+ rallies, spoken to thousands ... Donkees Sep 2017 #11

Yes, Bernie likes rallies EffieBlack Sep 2017 #18

Once you get a taste of those adoring crowds ehrnst Sep 2017 #22

Do you really think Sanders is using his energy like he is for 'adoring crowds?" pangaia Sep 2017 #125

Yes. EffieBlack Sep 2017 #138

Well, that's an honest answer. We'll just have to disagree on this one. pangaia Sep 2017 #143

I think that he feels personally validated by large cheering crowds.(nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #147

You may be right, but I don't think so. pangaia Sep 2017 #154

Sanders is one of the most effective Senators we have fighting for us ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #34

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #49

that must be why 16 top Senators signed on as co-sponsors of his single payer bill..... virtualobserver Sep 2017 #71

Post office naming bills get more sponsors than that EffieBlack Sep 2017 #124

I think this is the "Iraq war resolution" situation for anyone planning to run in 2018 and 2020 ehrnst Sep 2017 #157

You can fully support the bill without making a top priority this week EffieBlack Sep 2017 #255

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #257

You can get more than 16 Senators to sign on to a post office naming EffieBlack Sep 2017 #260

this simply isn't true ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #91

I'm with you, ProfessorPlum! SalviaBlue Sep 2017 #244

Please provide a link proving fellow Senators see Sanders as a "joke" riderinthestorm Sep 2017 #106

I don't need to read it on the internet. I know it first hand EffieBlack Sep 2017 #112

So you have nothing. Noted that your smears are utterly baseless nt riderinthestorm Sep 2017 #137

I have plenty and actually know what I'm talking a out EffieBlack Sep 2017 #148

Uh huh. Right nt riderinthestorm Sep 2017 #166

His career confirms your last paragraph lunamagica Sep 2017 #338

If one was to provide the link to articles where his colleagues talk about him ehrnst Sep 2017 #173

The OP isn't alerted on (or if it has been it's been allowed to stand) riderinthestorm Sep 2017 #180

I would not share outside of a private message. ehrnst Sep 2017 #181

And yours is a perfect example of how even facts about Bernie are R B Garr Sep 2017 #189

The OP made claims that the Senate thinks Sanders is a joke, useless, and an annoyance riderinthestorm Sep 2017 #197

Now come the laughable demands that only word-for-word utterances R B Garr Sep 2017 #203

Uh huh. So you got nothing either. Duly noted riderinthestorm Sep 2017 #212

Just what I thought. You want a link to someone uttering the word "joke' R B Garr Sep 2017 #214

Hmmm. I think you misunderstood G R's post lunamagica Sep 2017 #339

"Graham's smirks and smiles" melman Sep 2017 #216

He also spoke during and after his gleeful facial expressions. R B Garr Sep 2017 #217

What else would you expect melman Sep 2017 #219

ffs, indeed. When you hand an opponent something he is happy about, then R B Garr Sep 2017 #220

Right melman Sep 2017 #221

Oh, yes. Let's waste time talking about how a smile and laughter really R B Garr Sep 2017 #233

You're the one that bought up the smirks melman Sep 2017 #238

No, you are the one who was trying to imply smirks and laughter R B Garr Sep 2017 #239

I absolutely did not try to do that melman Sep 2017 #242

Ridiculous. If you didn't watch Graham, just say so. R B Garr Sep 2017 #245

"trying to imply that Graham is sad and dejected" melman Sep 2017 #254

if you didn't watch Graham, just say so. Implying R B Garr Sep 2017 #258

I saw the way Graham was smirking and gleeful when R B Garr Sep 2017 #116

You don't know really how he's seen in the Senate... Raster Sep 2017 #226

According to a 2016 WaPo story, lapucelle Sep 2017 #229

perhaps because the aim of his amendments is to help American citizens ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #266

There were and are Democratic senators lapucelle Sep 2017 #288

was that an attempt to refute my point? ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #296

There was no point to refute. N/T lapucelle Sep 2017 #310

He's not doing such a great job effectively fighting for us when he introduces Ninsianna Sep 2017 #323

I've been following his career for about 20 years ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #351

There was another candidate that had adoring crowds at his rallies and he doc03 Sep 2017 #56

Wow, started reading your post and thought safeinOhio Sep 2017 #85

Not at all Trump and Bernie. We can't doc03 Sep 2017 #249

Voted for Bernie in primary safeinOhio Sep 2017 #282

I don't know but it won't be either one of them. This party is a doc03 Sep 2017 #311

Many people here speak in such derogatory terms about Morning Joe and then Dustlawyer Sep 2017 #80

You can say that again... pangaia Sep 2017 #128

Consider the following two political options... brooklynite Sep 2017 #160

Thats all they got, "Socialized Medicine?" Dustlawyer Sep 2017 #172

Explain then why an overwhelming majority of voters are clamoring for it? brooklynite Sep 2017 #190

Providing, or even talking about, a better alternative shanny Sep 2017 #194

John Conyers has been introducing his Medicare for All bill lapucelle Sep 2017 #227

THANK you! EffieBlack Sep 2017 #261

And Bernie is founding member of the progressive caucus CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #292

And John Dingel, actual FDR dem, was introducing single payer since 1935 Ninsianna Sep 2017 #319

Nobody has claimed Bernie invented single payer CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #320

That's actually what all the cheerleading has been saying. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #324

No one has said Bernie invented single payer CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #328

That's patently untrue. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #329

A few things CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #340

A few more things. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #352

BRAVO!!! lunamagica Sep 2017 #341

That's not a single payer bill. lapucelle Sep 2017 #349

Facts like this don't matter workinclasszero Sep 2017 #82

Spot on. safeinOhio Sep 2017 #86

Yup. concreteblue Sep 2017 #93

It is depressing. nt DLevine Sep 2017 #115

Very workinclasszero Sep 2017 #121

Same toxic soup that gets shit-stirred on a regular basis. Raster Sep 2017 #241

Why can't the intelligent and caring folks that post on this board workinclasszero Sep 2017 #316

Agree wholeheartedly. So many either can't or won't see how this works Atticus Sep 2017 #275

That doesn't matter. Close only counts in horse shoes Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #273

Yes. I didn't see this coming. Bernie's bill is being used as the reason to pass Graham-Cassidy. Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #14

That despite the fact MoonRiver Sep 2017 #44

You do know the Repubs are against Medicare, too, right? That's socialized health care. Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #199

OF COURSE I know that. MoonRiver Sep 2017 #201

Just pointing out that your argument isn't applicable, that their opinions on it all are consistent. Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #204

Military personnel can access the VA, with limited costs for them. MoonRiver Sep 2017 #206

I was simply pointing out the irony, or maybe hypocrisy in the situation. MoonRiver Sep 2017 #283

Some Democrats are so terrified of GOP talking points Loubee Sep 2017 #162

I don't know what that means, but all that matters right now is how the Repubs vote. Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #200

Sanders is a grandstander first and foremost. We need to ask ourselves if it might not be his Trust Buster Sep 2017 #16

Exactly EffieBlack Sep 2017 #19

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #23

No. He is not a grandstander, in my opinion. pangaia Sep 2017 #133

Let us get the call on the field, shall we ? EVERY health organization has come out against this Trust Buster Sep 2017 #168

THIS! EffieBlack Sep 2017 #295

Really? how else do you explain his 3 month long advertising campaign? Fresh_Start Sep 2017 #207

I reject your premise and the rest of your post is simply an invitation to join you Atticus Sep 2017 #278

That's what I'm afraid of lunamagica Sep 2017 #342

But he's not doing it NOW, when it counts. brooklynite Sep 2017 #17

Bernie is a good man Pugster Sep 2017 #20

His supporters aren't going on CNN to "debate" single payer EffieBlack Sep 2017 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author pangaia Sep 2017 #139

It's not Bernie, It's Conyers (A Democrat) berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #21

exactly ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #32

Conyers introduced a Medicare for All bill in January EffieBlack Sep 2017 #54

Because then someone else would be getting all the attention/credit BannonsLiver Sep 2017 #235

Bernie's going to be debating the Rethugs, not Conyers. And the fear is that pnwmom Sep 2017 #209

This message was self-deleted by its author MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #26

This is such BS shanny Sep 2017 #27

Let's keep splitting up Democrats. I want the Orange Fuhrer to win in 2020. Vinca Sep 2017 #28

If they are not smart enough to get out and vote for a democrat to hell with them. They do not get boston bean Sep 2017 #40

Say to hell with them and Trump is re-elected. Vinca Sep 2017 #45

Oh yeah if they are so alienated by democrats to allow a trump presidency. Not just yeah but hell boston bean Sep 2017 #50

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2017 #135

Is that what I said?? boston bean Sep 2017 #142

So people should stop being the people they are and instead be the people you want them to be. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2017 #53

They are free to be who they want to be. boston bean Sep 2017 #62

In the same sense as "you're free to keep equivocating" Act_of_Reparation Sep 2017 #101

I said something that offends?? boston bean Sep 2017 #126

Only if one is offended by nonsense. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2017 #163

Thanks for the admission. boston bean Sep 2017 #231

Are you having a bad vocabulary day? Act_of_Reparation Sep 2017 #259

Am I making you mad or something? boston bean Sep 2017 #262

Not especially. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2017 #263

nope. boston bean Sep 2017 #264

Cool. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2017 #265

That can be said of the "far left". They want to shape the Democraty party into their views only lunamagica Sep 2017 #343

So, no matter what Bernie does, we're supposed to kiss his ass so we don't alienate his supporters EffieBlack Sep 2017 #59

Nobody has to kiss anyone's ass, but as I read post after post after post of Bernie bashing Vinca Sep 2017 #251

Question DownriverDem Sep 2017 #81

In spite of the fact that I voted for and support that Hillary wants to help other human beings, pangaia Sep 2017 #146

I have no idea why you feel that way. Hurt feelings from the last primary maybe? Vinca Sep 2017 #253

The Republicans are the adversary. Not Sanders ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #29

Sure he does. Hey guys would today be a good day to call the party an absolute failure? MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #33

Lol. boston bean Sep 2017 #41

You're killing me! Tarheel_Dem Sep 2017 #291

... lunamagica Sep 2017 #345

So is Conyers a Democrat? Is Klobuchar? Are they grandstanders? Tom Rinaldo Sep 2017 #30

+1 nt riderinthestorm Sep 2017 #43

Cannot agree more! iwannaknow Sep 2017 #57

So who should bend to whom? Demit Sep 2017 #88

Why does anyone have to "bend" to anybody? concreteblue Sep 2017 #98

We agree on that, and yet there is infighting. The question is how do we stop that. Demit Sep 2017 #110

There are those who claim to be on the side of Democrats ehrnst Sep 2017 #301

Conyers is doing an issue forum on his legislation at the CBC annual legislative conference EffieBlack Sep 2017 #66

But is NOW the right time for that forum? TCJ70 Sep 2017 #74

The forum is an annual event planned months ago EffieBlack Sep 2017 #100

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Stop accusing Democrats of being the "same as freepers." Demit Sep 2017 #144

it is an utter nonsense argument that this somehow makes the Republican case stronger. JCanete Sep 2017 #360

TO convoluted for some too understand. pangaia Sep 2017 #151

Strange that days ago he sent out a copy of G-C flagged for its attacks dogman Sep 2017 #31

From his Facebook page: dogman Sep 2017 #37

The GOP doesn't need an excuse to be evil ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #35

wow, just wow. Javaman Sep 2017 #36

Nope. Dem leadership is involved in this debate Arazi Sep 2017 #38

you can say it, but that carries water for Republicans tactic to divide & conquer D party. Sunlei Sep 2017 #39

Your "sit down and shut up" message GaryCnf Sep 2017 #46

So Bernie is asking for the moon on a stick... mwooldri Sep 2017 #47

beat it NJCher Sep 2017 #48

Best reply.... safeinOhio Sep 2017 #105

I would have left off the last sentence DFW Sep 2017 #51

I hope this doesn't break any DU rules. DownriverDem Sep 2017 #52

Why are no Dems (proper) not joining the debate? Why Bernie? He's being used by GOP to 'win' CousinIT Sep 2017 #58

Because I am in a giving mood GaryCnf Sep 2017 #65

Your snark is unwarranted. Sanders - as his haters here love to point out - is not a "Dem" CousinIT Sep 2017 #225

Really chopper050 Sep 2017 #55

No one is talking about taking big money out of elections. safeinOhio Sep 2017 #134

Bernie's "Our Revolution" is a PAC. They do not have to reveal their donors and emulatorloo Sep 2017 #202

Yep. That and Jeff Weaver staying on, was the reason several core staff quit ehrnst Sep 2017 #299

Is it time to remind everyone that Tad Devine WhiteTara Sep 2017 #60

Yes I would like to know more about all delisen Sep 2017 #76

I've read some pretty interesting articles about all that. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #119

I haven't forgotten that Bernie voted against Russian sanctions. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #103

I had forgotten that WhiteTara Sep 2017 #127

NO of course not because it is absurd and divisive LiberalLovinLug Sep 2017 #61

Agree. I live in Vermont. Bernie is not in this for himself. He is in it for US. n/t garybeck Sep 2017 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author garybeck Sep 2017 #79

49% of Americans want single payer health Care. You say he's in this only for himself??? garybeck Sep 2017 #63

K& R Gothmog Sep 2017 #64

I'm amazed that such a crazy ineffectual Senator is responsible for so many horrible Nanjeanne Sep 2017 #68

indeed! :) He's not even a Democrat himself ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #95

You'd be surprised at how many people blame Bernie for Trump. HughBeaumont Sep 2017 #158

I was being sarcastic. I'm not surprised at all. Nanjeanne Sep 2017 #161

If Hillary's responsible for Trump, is Bernie responsible for Hillary? EffieBlack Sep 2017 #165

Me too. Surely he realizes the timing sucks. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #276

Is Amy Klobuchar a Dem or doesn't care about Dems and is only out for herself? Gore1FL Sep 2017 #69

I think you are so wrong. classykaren Sep 2017 #70

me too n/t garybeck Sep 2017 #102

DUers are our own worst enemies, who needs Republicans IronLionZion Sep 2017 #72

Well he is not a republican for sure. pwb Sep 2017 #75

YES! democratisphere Sep 2017 #77

Well, Magoo48 Sep 2017 #78

Funny how Bernie can criticize Dems and the party to his heart's content EffieBlack Sep 2017 #87

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I won't say he needs to be quiet, but Blue_Tires Sep 2017 #83

+1 treestar Sep 2017 #167

+ a million gazillion. R B Garr Sep 2017 #210

I hope that the so-called debate about the republican bill doesn't become long promotional event.... George II Sep 2017 #84

He's a Pied Piper PubliusEnigma Sep 2017 #92

It is a despicable fucking LIE, so you should not be allowed to say it. alarimer Sep 2017 #94

Isn't it funny . . . . HughBeaumont Sep 2017 #114

I support a multi-payer system but I don't know if it would have stopped our political situation StevieM Sep 2017 #171

We've reached the bottom of the bucket for excuses why we can't have single payer CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #322

Do you have a copy of what he will be speaking about? jalan48 Sep 2017 #96

Fuck yeah! ornotna Sep 2017 #99

So what you're saying is we don't need him? vi5 Sep 2017 #104

I didn't say anything close to that EffieBlack Sep 2017 #109

Well, it seems odd then.... vi5 Sep 2017 #193

Agree 100% nt lillypaddle Sep 2017 #111

the primary is over.....mkay...the primary is over mentalslavery Sep 2017 #113

Apparently it's not over for you ... EffieBlack Sep 2017 #117

it was a little irony....mkay....a little irony mentalslavery Sep 2017 #122

Yet another thread bringing the party together.... Chakaconcarne Sep 2017 #120

Funny how any criticism of the guy who constantly criticizes the party EffieBlack Sep 2017 #129

When were we not allowed to say that here? n/t hughee99 Sep 2017 #131

Bernie's Timing Says It All dlk Sep 2017 #136

One thing at a fucking time! world wide wally Sep 2017 #140

Every day Sanders posts on his FB a call to reject Graham Cassidy bill. Nanjeanne Sep 2017 #174

but he criticizes the pure-democratic party which is beyond criticism...cuz hillary mentalslavery Sep 2017 #243

It does seem like it would have been smarter for him to have waited til the end of September MadLinguist Sep 2017 #176

Yawn Ace Rothstein Sep 2017 #182

Worst post ever. m-lekktor Sep 2017 #184

Yet Bernie & only four other dems voted against the massive give away to the MIC this week. CrispyQ Sep 2017 #185

What do you mean by "NOW"? left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #186

He says he's proud of "taking on virtually the entire party establishment" ucrdem Sep 2017 #191

If by taking them on he means taking their money and support. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #205

This is really the window to it all, in his own words. He needs the agita R B Garr Sep 2017 #213

There is no question what he did and what the results are. We live with them daily Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #252

Yes. And there's no question about his intentions here, either. ucrdem Sep 2017 #356

Enough of this crap. Eyeball_Kid Sep 2017 #195

_Kid chopper050 Sep 2017 #222

With you 100% EffieBlack Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #198

Bullshit RhodeIslandOne Sep 2017 #208

This has nothing to do with who's' behind anything EffieBlack Sep 2017 #218

Let me get this straight... Act_of_Reparation Sep 2017 #223

So every time someone brings up single payer, you're going to allow the GOP to bully you? RhodeIslandOne Sep 2017 #332

You are correct. From beginning to end... every word is true. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #224

Once Again Nurse J. Me. Sep 2017 #237

You are, if you are determined to continue this particular narrative. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #228

You speak for most Democrats. nt LexVegas Sep 2017 #230

Sorry, no she doesn't. She speaks for a small, certain subset.... Raster Sep 2017 #240

Looking at how the majority voted, yes, she speaks for R B Garr Sep 2017 #248

The majority voted for Bernie to be quiet on healthcare? m-lekktor Sep 2017 #277

Desperate, but unfortunately very familiar. nt R B Garr Sep 2017 #313

No, the majority voted for Hillary Clinton. And everyone on this site voted for her for POTUS lunamagica Sep 2017 #348

That was then melman Sep 2017 #358

If we lose the ACA, who will be blamed? Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #274

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Citing rules are ya? oasis Sep 2017 #236

....... disillusioned73 Sep 2017 #246

I'll take him over a person who makes a divisive hateful thread like this anyday. Nt LostOne4Ever Sep 2017 #256

well said ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #267

The ACA would not have passed without Bernie Sanders. I guess trumps election and then onecaliberal Sep 2017 #284

He threatened to withold his vote when they wouldn't make it single payer. ehrnst Sep 2017 #298

"The ACA would not have passed without Bernie Sanders"....and 59 other Senators. George II Sep 2017 #312

I'm allowed, because I say it all the time, and damn the consequences. Everything you said is true. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2017 #285

I'm going to watch the debate Monday night and LMFAO CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #293

No. Read the TOS. Ms. Toad Sep 2017 #294

thank you ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #297

Constructive criticism is always welcome, Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #330

MmmmHmmmm. . . Ms. Toad Sep 2017 #331

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We agree that it has gone haywire, Ms. Toad Sep 2017 #334

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my thoughts as well.... chillfactor Sep 2017 #303

No, unless you are close minded KPN Sep 2017 #307

I am glad Gavin Newsome doesn't feel the same way. Nanjeanne Sep 2017 #314

LOL... The empressof all Sep 2017 #317

We've always been allowed. First amendment packs Corvo Bianco Sep 2017 #325

Get a new hobby. Warpy Sep 2017 #327

It depends on what the meaning of "allowed" is. Jim Lane Sep 2017 #347

I can't wait to kick this back up after Sanders obliterates everyone Monday. Quixote1818 Sep 2017 #353

Coincidentally, that's what Russian news outlets and bots say too. sharedvalues Sep 2017 #354

I don't give a fuck. Say what you want. It's bullshit, but feel free. But this is illustrative JCanete Sep 2017 #357

This message was self-deleted by its author liberalnarb Sep 2017 #359