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[Ninsianna]

329. That's patently untrue.

It's not just allusions, it's outright stated that it's *his* plan and no one ever has thought of implementing it in the US EVAH!!!

See, people are deeply ignorant about the actual conversation about Single payer that went on in the 90's with Hillary's push on healthcare, and all the other decades. They were erasing John Conyers as well. Utterly ignorant about the actual conversations we've been having.

Less "excited cheerleading" and more learning about history. The only ones who have been waiting their entire "lifetimes" for this to be talked about are, well literally no one. Some younger people who are still unaware of the political discussion of the 90's I guess. Who were too busy during the healthcare discussion that Obama engaged in etc.


Yes, we do see exactly what people are doing, since the people doing all that cheerleading and all that projecting don't seem to know how badly they're concealing themselves.

And then there is this whole lie about the actual impediments to single payer, I guess when one chooses to never learn what political discussion has ever been in this country or what Democrats had been discussing since the 30's, one could make this silly argument. Once again, one needs to be profoundly ignorant about the topic, US political discussion and pretty much anything about single payer in particular and politics in the US in general. This form of projection is indeed scraping the very bottom of the barrel, since one literally has to have been living in a cave and unaware of literally anything at all before a bird landed on a podium somewhere.

As I've explained, it's been talked about for most of the last century and all of this century, but the people doing the talking are doing no listening, no homework, not figuring out the details, they're too bush projecting their own ignorance, their own emotional baggage and their own failure ot understand anything that's being said.

Denying something is fine, but it's kinda silly to deny the denial by posting a whole lot of things that were not true and which make the point that one is trying to refute.

At present, we're dealing with a dangerous bill that seeks to harm and kill people, RIGHT now. For someone to state that there has been "nevera a better time than the present" shows a callous disregard for actual people and what they're facing in the present. All based on generally and willfully ignoring the reality that Single Payer is not new, it was been talked about, and it's not the brain child of a single man who *finally* brought his brilliant idea to the forefront using his own burly hands and sheer will.

That's just silly. It's also demonstrably a load of BS. People need to stop being so "excited" and go learn some facts, some history and figure out why people who are feeding them these lies are probably not doing so with pure intentions, no matter how pure they claim to be.

People are in jeopardy right now, and if people advancing this bill which is not even well written or thought out don't even know that this isn't the first conversation we've had about this, then they should sit down and correct their ignorance. Lives are at take RIGHT NOW.