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Xolodno

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44. Agreed.

Sat Sep 23, 2017, 12:35 AM

Sep 2017

You said it better than I did.

This is just speculation on my part, but I wonder if the TEA Party fiasco blow back is also hitting us. Moderates in the GOP did little to fight against the hard right. Many seemed to have just gave up and joined the Democratic Party and many were welcomed. Now are trying to drag us right or have been dragging us right for their satisfaction.

Bernie, love him or hate him, did point out, that the US is center-right is either a myth or well on its way out. The country, albeit slowly, is marching left. They can point that Congress and the WH is controlled by the GOP and we therefore must move in that direction, but its fallacy. The gerrymandering, voter suppression, etc. shows the opposite, if one is confident that the country is right leaning, then why the questionable tactics?

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Sanders: I don't consider myself a Democrat [View all] factfinder_77 Sep 2017 OP

Does this come as a surprise? guillaumeb Sep 2017 #1

I am not surprised Gothmog Sep 2017 #71

Yes; becaus his name if floating around as a 2020 democratic contender factfinder_77 Sep 2017 #2

Ill take your word for it. Done listening to him. bluepen Sep 2017 #3

Yes, huge ups to Senator John McCain (R) for voicing R B Garr Sep 2017 #4

Its a hard job for Pelosi and Schumer to work with Sanders factfinder_77 Sep 2017 #9

I bet they cry themselves to sleep every night :P Sunlei Sep 2017 #15

Can you tell us what "core party values" Democrats have that Bernie does not please? CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #23

For one they're pro gun control. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #49

Bernie has a D- rating from the NRA CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #59

Out of that list DFW Sep 2017 #82

It seems that the Anti-Democratic talking point list has not been Ninsianna Sep 2017 #90

I said it was from 2013. CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #91

It seems like you're just upset that any sort of criticism was leveled against your Ninsianna Sep 2017 #88

No quite the opposite CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #92

And I supported my point, while yours sorta failed, because the NRA Ninsianna Sep 2017 #94

Excuse me? CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #105

Oh and since you so thoughtfully provided a link but apparently did not read it Ninsianna Sep 2017 #89

How is that an attack on Democrats? lol? CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #93

Well there were the lies, the implications and the assumptions. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #95

I thought so too JustAnotherGen Sep 2017 #97

A D- is a passing grade. Nothing but an F is acceptable lunamagica Sep 2017 #102

I disagree CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #104

The young voters will move on. The Bernie campaign was a fad bluepen Sep 2017 #28

Do you have children of voting age? ChubbyStar Sep 2017 #43

Do they have to live in my house? bluepen Sep 2017 #46

WRONG ChubbyStar Sep 2017 #53

What an incredible statement CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #61

Alrighty then. bluepen Sep 2017 #72

yes, I think he is. lapfog_1 Sep 2017 #47

This is completely false CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #60

You are not making sense. bluepen Sep 2017 #74

If young voters don't understand by now how they were beguiled and scammed by targeted Russian haveahart Sep 2017 #68

Well said. kstewart33 Sep 2017 #73

Great post. But I wont give up on them coming to their senses. bluepen Sep 2017 #75

like that rock and roll? Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #78

No. Rock and roll is here to stay. Bernie is done. bluepen Sep 2017 #81

Good to know ... If he doesn't, then I won't either. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #5

So you rather want Trump get reelected ? factfinder_77 Sep 2017 #10

fuck Donald he's the Republicans problem. Sunlei Sep 2017 #19

You think that people believing Sanders will cause Trump to get re-elected? pnwmom Sep 2017 #99

Okay, then. kstewart33 Sep 2017 #6

perhaps he doesn't want to run as independent because a spoiler in GE like Stein really fucks the D. Sunlei Sep 2017 #17

That's a very optimistic possibility. kstewart33 Sep 2017 #27

He's a crankie man sometimes but he's on our side! You don't have to 'like' everyone you work with. Sunlei Sep 2017 #35

Being a crank isn't the problem. kstewart33 Sep 2017 #70

tough, he votes with Ds & says we have a right to healthcare. He works hard for US. Sunlei Sep 2017 #85

Alert the media! shanny Sep 2017 #7

LOLOL HALIBUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! pangaia Sep 2017 #8

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This message was self-deleted by its author R B Garr Sep 2017 #12

Sanders about two weeks ago, "Do not leave the D party, support the D Party" Sunlei Sep 2017 #13

So why was Sanders Senate campaign committee registered as independent for 2018 at Oct 10, 2015 factfinder_77 Sep 2017 #18

because he's not running for president in 2018 Sunlei Sep 2017 #20

The Big One... Grassy Knoll Sep 2017 #14

You realize, no doubt, that this was early in the year, when he partnered with the DNC hedda_foil Sep 2017 #16

Has He Become A Dem Since THen Me. Sep 2017 #21

So thats why he lambasts 'absolute failure' of Democratic party's strategy factfinder_77 Sep 2017 #22

I Can't Help Wondering Me. Sep 2017 #26

Given how 2016 turned out, what else can you call that strategy? Ken Burch Sep 2017 #42

Do you think this is wrong? CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #62

That's classic. You can put anything in there to suggest anything you want. kcr Sep 2017 #83

I don't Understand The Correlation Between My Response & Yours Me. Sep 2017 #87

I will fallout87 Sep 2017 #38

What actions are those? CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #64

I'm of the opinion... Xolodno Sep 2017 #24

The Democratic Party s is composed of various factions - enough agreement between them to coexist factfinder_77 Sep 2017 #30

Yes. And the GOP isn't one of them. Xolodno Sep 2017 #34

BRAVO! CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #65

It would be meaningless to beat the GOP by BECOMING the GOP, or by stopping just short of that. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #40

Agreed. Xolodno Sep 2017 #44

I don't consider him one either nini Sep 2017 #25

A Rose by any other name would smell as sweet. no_hypocrisy Sep 2017 #29

Of course he's not a Democrat. There's one of these after his name.......(I) democrank Sep 2017 #31

Those threats of splitting the party are meaningless R B Garr Sep 2017 #33

Who's threatening? democrank Sep 2017 #37

Yet I's have never won anything. Even Bernie didn't want R B Garr Sep 2017 #45

I think you forgot this; Dyedinthewoolliberal Sep 2017 #36

That's probably the... Snackshack Sep 2017 #32

Why will you not let up on this? Ken Burch Sep 2017 #39

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Wow, revelatory....everybody knows sanders doesn't identify JCanete Sep 2017 #48

If the party were more like it was before Bill Clinton he probably would register as a Dem. nt Quixote1818 Sep 2017 #50

Get a new hobby. Warpy Sep 2017 #51

no suprise there.... chillfactor Sep 2017 #52

What are these "Democratic Party values" Bernie doesn't have? CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #67

He's what democrats should be Lunabell Sep 2017 #54

Used to be when? oberliner Sep 2017 #56

The party of Jimmy Carter Lunabell Sep 2017 #63

A truly good man who had dirt done to him (I'd like to know the truth of Oliver WinkyDink Sep 2017 #66

Do you remember the Carter v. Kennedy primary battle? oberliner Sep 2017 #69

He's leader of the Bernie party. JNelson6563 Sep 2017 #55

DU says to support Democrats and independents MyNameGoesHere Sep 2017 #57

I don't consider you a democrat either Bernie. democratisphere Sep 2017 #58

Spasibo, tovarich doubleplusgood Sep 2017 #76

This is a big mistake...... vi5 Sep 2017 #77

Bernie is helping the party be a better Democratic Party whether you like it or not. aikoaiko Sep 2017 #79

But we, the Democratic are supposed to accept the BS ideology liberal N proud Sep 2017 #80

Form or function? The Russians want to know. Eyeball_Kid Sep 2017 #84

A strong and pricipled man who works side by side with the Party. jalan48 Sep 2017 #86

Considering the number of people that voted for Bernie... kentuck Sep 2017 #96

When they're attacking us, it seems they wish to be our enemies Ninsianna Sep 2017 #98

The vast majority who voted for Bernie consider themselves Democrats. n/t pnwmom Sep 2017 #100

The more Bernie and supporters get trashed ... left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #101

I don't care... SMC22307 Sep 2017 #103