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In reply to the discussion: The lesser of two evils. [View all]Bluerthanblue
(13,669 posts)88. actually, you
are right. Your OP doesn't say that and I'm wrong to pin that on you. I had just read through the entire thread again before I posted this and was disturbed to read a few people saying it wasn't really worth voting Democratic in the future unless there was a drastic move to the left.
Some of your replies do lean more towards the message of if we can't elect a far left Dem, then we are fucked and might as well die:
If he is indeed the most liberal president we'll see in our lifetime, then we might as well roll over and die now, because that indicates that we are well and truly fucked.
Believe me, I understand and share your frustration. But the answer isn't to quit. The answer isn't that if we can't have a MAJOR change NOW then we should give up. There are times in life when that is the right way to deal with a situation. Sure, some people can choose not to vote, or to vote on principal, and they will probably survive the consequences of another Republican presidency. But there are people who will die if we allow the republicans to gain the white house. We have to prevail. And we have to move this country back in the right direction- that won't EVER happen if we say "ah, what's the difference between the two parties anyway... we might as well just let the republicans take over and screw things up completely"-
There IS a difference between the two parties. Yes, we have moved uncomfortably to the center - we have to continue to pull back against them and work to move us back in the right direction.
Read through this entire thread including your responses, perhaps you'll see how the black/white all/nothing criticism isn't all that far fetched. I apologize for attributing it to your OP.
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So you're saying that I should put down the very productive work I'm engaged in currently
MadHound
Jul 2012
#36
That, and "not as bad" has been the de facto campaign slogan for the party for years.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jul 2012
#13
Everyone has different interpretations of what constitutes 'the center' or 'blue dog'.
randome
Jul 2012
#23
"Things a troll would say to depress Democratic enthusiasm for $200, Alex"
scheming daemons
Jul 2012
#20
Then you better get busy finding a candidate for 2016 ... Obama is the candidate for 2012.
JoePhilly
Jul 2012
#46
"Were parties here divided merely by a greediness for office,...to take a part with either....
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jul 2012
#77
Well, the fact is, if we can't pull the party back to the left, we are fucked.
MadHound
Jul 2012
#92
Sophistry. Are, all Democrats up for election GOOD? Are all Democrats GOOD?
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jul 2012
#110
Correct, but Third Way corporatists will prevent liberal Democrats from ever electing liberal Dems.
Zorra
Jul 2012
#95
In the past you've advocated letting Republicans win. You are doing the same here, but more subtly
emulatorloo
Jul 2012
#119
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jul 2012
#108