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In reply to the discussion: Sanders: I don't consider myself a Democrat [View all]Ninsianna
(1,356 posts)really liked your guy and said so.
Again, what they said in 2016 over what they said in 2012? And all the years before when they sure liked the guy and his votes to not regulate guns.
Your suspicions seem to be based on your own wishful thinking, I suspect that this is because you can't defend the legitimate criticism and can't tolerate any facts that interfere with the hero worship.
Perhaps after you've been here longer than a week, you'll learn to respond to what's been written instead of what you've decided to assume, about people whose posts you don't seem to read well, but you've decided you know well enough to read what's in their hearts and minds.
What exactly are you suggesting "I know" about how dear, dear Bernie (peas be upon him) voted and why? I can think of no legitimate reason for his votes, but since you know so much about what I know and why Bernie voted against sensible gun regulation that even Republicans voted for (to the delight of the NRA who gave him a better grade for his sympathetic votes), why don't you lay out the Tarot cards, fire up the mind reading and tell us all what you claim you have read in our minds?
So he was for "instant background checks" in 2005 and THAT's why he voted against Brady 5 times?
Were there instant background checks even feasible in 2005?
A hint, the article where you cherry picked quotes from? It gives you the answer, oddly you chose to pretend it didn't exist, almost like it wasn't in the talking points from last year which are being used with a vengeance, but which the fact checks destroyed back then.
I posted a fact check of that debate, I see why it might be inconvenient to this bald refighting of lost primary to reference the fact checks on the topic I was referencing.
It's an extreme position to request background checks that are possible at the time? To hold gun manufacturers liable? No, that's not extreme at all, it is why the Democratic party has the superior position on Gun Control and your guy does not.
Calling any disagreement out in the personal terms as you've been doing in your 16 OPs, and 200+ posts in less than a week, on every interaction, speaks greater volumes.
And pointing out the similarity in behavior does indeed speak volumes, all the assumptions, poor reading, cherry picked quotes, ignoring facts and fact checks and accusing everyone who disagrees with you of "hating Bernie" and "being upset about Bernie" is literally how Trumper think and act. Sorry if my ACCURATE assessment of behavior that is replicated in nearly every post hit a little too close to home.
We get 8 years of Trump when we fail to call out the ignorance, the abuse, the harassment and the utter failure of fact base dialogue to call out the forces whose sole aim seem to be foment division and anger within the only party opposing him.
We get 8 years of Trump when we denigrate, demean and lie about Democrats and Democratic Party positions. I'm not the one doing the damage that gave us Trump, nor am I the one seeking to continue the fractures and the abuse to ensure more Trump. Projecting ones own behavior and motives fails as much as ignoring facts, and cherrypicking to suit an argument that was defeated some time ago, through various fact checks.