Sanders: I don't consider myself a Democrat

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105. Excuse me?

Not sure what is up with your personal attacks here in some of the things you've written but it's rather unwarranted.

My "suspicion"? What suspicion might that be since you seem to know me so well? As far as hero worship goes, Bernie isn't perfect by any means and nobody is however your blind hatred for him does show quite well on nearly every thread about him. We get it, you're upset because he's not a Democrat.

I respond to posts just fine thank you. I respond to what people say, kind of hard to see what is in people's minds & hearts based on pixels on a message board on the internet, don't ya think? If someone says something and took the time to type it out, then that is what they meant.

What exactly are you suggesting "I know" about how dear, dear Bernie (peas be upon him) voted and why? I can think of no legitimate reason for his votes, but since you know so much about what I know and why Bernie voted against sensible gun regulation that even Republicans voted for (to the delight of the NRA who gave him a better grade for his sympathetic votes), why don't you lay out the Tarot cards, fire up the mind reading and tell us all what you claim you have read in our minds?

Again, your blind hatred is showing. "Peas upon him"? Really? I rest my case.
As far as Bernie and why he voted the way he did, you know the answer I suspect and a simple search on Google would reveal that; Sportsmen. VT is a very big sportsman state.


I explained fully WHY Bernie voted against Bernie up above.

Yes, instant background checks were feasible and have been for a long time

Are you familiar with what NCIC is? It is the crime information center clearing house. Any time you say get pulled over by the cops, your license and name is run. This is the system which the police run your information through. It is literally instantaneous. Ironically it is already used for guns in a round about way however indirectly; if someone is in possession of a firearm, that firearm's serial numbers are run through NCIC along with the persons name & criminal history to see if they are eligible to own a firearm.

Yes, instant background checks are very possible and tapping into the NCIC is one way to make it happen.

Holding gun makers responsible isn't responsible, it's irresponsible and downright silly. We don't hold Budweiser and other beer companies responsible for drunk driving deaths, do we? Should we start? I don't think so. Do we hold car makers for drunk driving deaths too? Nope. Maybe we should start that too! You can't hold the maker of something legal nor responsible for something that isn't working incorrectly. Can a gun maker be held responsible if say they produce a weapon that was faulty and jammed, injuring people all the time? Yes. However that is a different scenario entirely. Remember the Firestone & Ford tire debacle late 90s &early in the 2000s? It lead to Congress passing the TREAD Act, due to tires being faulty. You can't do as you're suggesting, not only would it not fly, it is 100% unconstitutional. That is the reality of the situation. Do gun makers enjoy special protections under the law? Yes. And Hillary stated several times and was correct in her run for the Presidency. Are those laws correct or wrong? That is up to you and your POV. and opinion.

Calling any disagreement out in the personal terms as you've been doing in your 16 OPs, and 200+ posts in less than a week, on every interaction, speaks greater volumes.

Pot meet kettle; here you are doing just that with personal attacks. Sorry you have such a problem with me.

And pointing out the similarity in behavior does indeed speak volumes, all the assumptions, poor reading, cherry picked quotes, ignoring facts and fact checks and accusing everyone who disagrees with you of "hating Bernie" and "being upset about Bernie" is literally how Trumper think and act. Sorry if my ACCURATE assessment of behavior that is replicated in nearly every post hit a little too close to home.

I'm sorry that you dislike that I speak the truth. It is what it is and it is rather obvious as I already quoted here. If anything Trumpers are enjoying this because it drives division in our party, the very thing they need to win in 2018 and 2020. Doubt me? Feel free to prove me wrong.

I find it ironic that you bring up "denigrate, demean and lie about Democrats and Democratic Party positions" here, in a thread about guns, when several people who are Democrats have a lot higher NRA ratings than Bernie, including people like Joe Manchin who has a "A" rating. That alone makes all of this silly. But because it's "BERNIE!!"...well...it says it all.