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147. I was pointing out that overt and explicit hostility, agressive personal attacks are

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Mon Sep 25, 2017, 03:12 PM

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the norm on this thread. The fact that they're still present speaks volumes, and are testimony to the faultiness of the "many sides" arguments that are made here. See where the toxicity is coming from and how it persists, to simple questions.

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Has Bernie Sanders said anything about Trump's attacks on black athletes? [View all] EffieBlack Sep 2017 OP

Serious question Agschmid Sep 2017 #1

If he's commented, please point me to it. EffieBlack Sep 2017 #2

Use Google. Agschmid Sep 2017 #8

I did. I didn't see anything. EffieBlack Sep 2017 #11

Well there you go. Problem solved. Agschmid Sep 2017 #46

Sanders said during the primary jrthin Sep 2017 #3

Objecting to Trump's attack on free speech is not "doing identity politics." nt SunSeeker Sep 2017 #100

That sucks. Glad most members of the party I belong to do take a stand. boston bean Sep 2017 #111

+1 SunSeeker Sep 2017 #116

+2,369,369,256,258,247 Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #124

of this heaven05 Sep 2017 #153

Check in tomorrow. She will at the daily press briefing. TheCowsCameHome Sep 2017 #4

Don't know. Has Hillary? The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #5

Only thing she said today was that the Navy needs to help Puerto Rico marylandblue Sep 2017 #6

Which is extra weird because the Navy's disaster relief left Puerto Rico today Nevernose Sep 2017 #20

I don't think the Navy has been involved with disaster relief in Puerto Rico. George II Sep 2017 #27

They weren't. They left PR to go elsewhere leftofcool Sep 2017 #60

Yes they should and yes she was. I can't believe that after all this time (a week or so) that.... George II Sep 2017 #62

Or perhaps not so weird, considering the news today that the Hospitals are full and they're Ninsianna Sep 2017 #93

All I know is what the news reports Nevernose Sep 2017 #145

Did you read these news reports? Ninsianna Sep 2017 #149

How about the GOP who benefits from dividing Democrats? sharedvalues Sep 2017 #7

Asking a question is an attack on Democrats? EffieBlack Sep 2017 #12

"Just asking questions" sharedvalues Sep 2017 #16

we do see heaven05 Sep 2017 #156

we already know heaven05 Sep 2017 #155

LOLOL HALIBUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! pangaia Sep 2017 #40

snort snort Sep 2017 #92

Well, he's a sitting senator, she's not. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #94

Hillary Clinton is not in the Senate. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #106

She isn't President she isn't even running or in congress are you Fullduplexxx Sep 2017 #133

Hillary is an important, high profile person The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #135

She's busy suggesting specfic things that can be done to address Puerto Rico's needs. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #137

Exactly my point. Nobody is obligated to comment. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #138

My point was the aggrressive, hostile and abusive response to a simple question. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #143

If you find a post to be hostile and abusive you could alert on it. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #144

I was pointing out that overt and explicit hostility, agressive personal attacks are Ninsianna Sep 2017 #147

I agree with you pandr32 Sep 2017 #162

You're not allowed to say these things here. As you can see by this thread Ninsianna Sep 2017 #164

Oh I see where the toxicity comes from melman Sep 2017 #167

I daresay you see the source daily. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #169

Hilary was on AMJoy yesterday for about an hour -- LOTS of comments about white supremacy R B Garr Sep 2017 #140

Great. Glad to hear it. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #141

Nancy Pelosi on Meet the Press yesterday was asked about it R B Garr Sep 2017 #142

the question in OP heaven05 Sep 2017 #154

Hey EffieBlack, can you tell us what you stand for? sharedvalues Sep 2017 #9

I've been on DU for years. Feel free to go back and read my posts EffieBlack Sep 2017 #15

Yes I am. Constructive positive views are important t sharedvalues Sep 2017 #22

That's fair. I can't respond right now EffieBlack Sep 2017 #32

Thanks sharedvalues Sep 2017 #33

Some of us, speaking only for myself, dont view all alleged allies the same. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #125

Constructive discussion. Talk about what we stand FOR. Not what we stand AGAINST. sharedvalues Sep 2017 #175

From what I can see, you've been here for more than 10 years, not quite a charter member but.... George II Sep 2017 #28

That is rather an insulting question to ask another Democrat on this site. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #107

Just asking for constructive comments rather than negative ones sharedvalues Sep 2017 #174

I'm sure by asking THE question heaven05 Sep 2017 #157

FFS berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #10

I feel your pain friend, This Bernie/Hilliary bullshit is out of control...... Old Vet Sep 2017 #150

Exactly what I did. xor Sep 2017 #163

It's like "The Song That Never Ends"!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #176

No He Did Not Me. Sep 2017 #13

Have you said something about Trump's attacks on black athletes today? Autumn Sep 2017 #14

Yes, I've said plenty about it. EffieBlack Sep 2017 #17

Today? Before this OP asking what Bernie has said? What did Hillary have to say about it today? Autumn Sep 2017 #19

Yes. My circle is not limited to DU EffieBlack Sep 2017 #21

Well I'll for sure take your word for that. Autumn Sep 2017 #23

Are you calling Effie a liar? Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #126

Is HRC A Currently Elected Official? Me. Sep 2017 #31

Nice of you to answer for her. She already admitted she has discussed this elswhere. Autumn Sep 2017 #34

It's Allowed To Reply To Any Post One Pleases Me. Sep 2017 #36

Of course, and I'm allowed to tell you how nice you are to answer for her. Autumn Sep 2017 #37

THank You Me. Sep 2017 #39

Not sure why the snark in response to someone's comment EffieBlack Sep 2017 #38

So you couldn't find out anything in your "other circles" and come here to ask. Autumn Sep 2017 #43

No, I didn't see anything, but I know people on DU are well-versed EffieBlack Sep 2017 #48

Hostility doesn't run rampant on one side. Google works great. Autumn Sep 2017 #49

Why the hostility? NastyRiffraff Sep 2017 #134

So Now You're Responding For Me. Effie Me. Sep 2017 #71

Besides, you're not one of top officials from our Government. George II Sep 2017 #29

Nor Is She Senator Sanders Me. Sep 2017 #72

Do you know that for sure? EffieBlack Sep 2017 #75

What I Do Know Is Me. Sep 2017 #78

who's "a top official of our government" heaven05 Sep 2017 #114

As I replied to velveteen-- LOL Hallibut !!!!!!!!!!!!!! pangaia Sep 2017 #42

Yeah Autumn Sep 2017 #44

What's with the personal attacks? Ninsianna Sep 2017 #95

Indeed. Yes, plural. I saw also. #Sad NurseJackie Sep 2017 #103

true, this heaven05 Sep 2017 #113

I am so fucking SICK of dancing around this issue. While we dance around Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #127

I hear ya! I'm right there with ya! NurseJackie Sep 2017 #131

Yep. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #132

It's just so irrational. It's not like it's simple enough to say he didn't choose to Ninsianna Sep 2017 #139

+1 Jamaal510 Sep 2017 #146

A question is a personal attack? Autumn Sep 2017 #105

LOL! EffieBlack Sep 2017 #109

The people attacking the person who asked a simple question are engaging Ninsianna Sep 2017 #136

No melman Sep 2017 #148

I don't understand the purpose of denying what the thread makes blatantly clear Ninsianna Sep 2017 #151

Clearly, a nerve has been struck. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #160

Nope melman Sep 2017 #166

Yep. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #168

Clearly EffieBlack Sep 2017 #170

No melman Sep 2017 #171

I don't think Effie's a sitting Senator who considers himself to be the ehrnst Sep 2017 #119

We know she isn't a sitting Senator who considers himself to be the most progressive Senator ever. Autumn Sep 2017 #123

So this is where we're at? EarthFirst Sep 2017 #18

Fair question - I've seem similar asked of many other Democrats and prominent Americans. George II Sep 2017 #24

One more time! ornotna Sep 2017 #25

I think he's really focused on healthcare right now. jalan48 Sep 2017 #26

Thanks for a straight, non-accusatory answer. That makes sense EffieBlack Sep 2017 #30

It's an accusatory thread melman Sep 2017 #41

We've reached a point where asking if Sanders has made a comment is "accusatory?" EffieBlack Sep 2017 #45

Right melman Sep 2017 #47

Yes. SMC22307 Sep 2017 #63

Yes, asking questions seems to have become "Bashing" when applied ehrnst Sep 2017 #121

How can anyone consider the OP and responses to it "an accusatory thread"? George II Sep 2017 #74

This *ain't* our first rodeo, George. (n/t) SMC22307 Sep 2017 #76

Yes, SMC22307. George II Sep 2017 #86

Here's a better question melman Sep 2017 #77

You made a judgement about the OP, only fair that you clarify it, don't you think? George II Sep 2017 #80

No I don't think I need to answer a question melman Sep 2017 #83

You're expending a lot of time and energy responding to a question you insist doesn't need answering EffieBlack Sep 2017 #89

Wow melman Sep 2017 #90

And yet you expect me to do so? George II Sep 2017 #110

Rhetorical questions melman Sep 2017 #117

the intent was to ask heaven05 Sep 2017 #158

Nope melman Sep 2017 #159

yep nt heaven05 Sep 2017 #161

Here's an even better question EffieBlack Sep 2017 #82

Nope melman Sep 2017 #84

Yes, the accusatory folks piling on with the unecessary rudeness are indeed noticeable. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #97

One wonders indeed melman Sep 2017 #98

Yes, and rightfully so... Bernie has his hands full protecting our right to healthcare... InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #50

Objectively and materially, just what has he done to protect our right to healthcare? George II Sep 2017 #85

Yes... and saving lives should take priority! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #177

He probably won't make official statements until he's POTUS leftstreet Sep 2017 #35

Probably not. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #51

So sorry today's tweets have been about Puerto Rico, Healthcare and thanking McCain. Nanjeanne Sep 2017 #52

The outrage would be epic had Bernie said something about it today. Autumn Sep 2017 #53

Oh yeah. He surely would be doing it to Nanjeanne Sep 2017 #55

Good Lord! Could you be any more defensive? EffieBlack Sep 2017 #57

I think you don't understand the meaning of defensive Nanjeanne Sep 2017 #59

But you sound fabulous! ChubbyStar Sep 2017 #61

"Do you have any idea what you sound like?" SMC22307 Sep 2017 #65

They probably sound to you, like you sound to them. mythology Sep 2017 #87

It fascinating that so many of you are so certain of what my motives were in asking a question EffieBlack Sep 2017 #88

Hopefully he is busy preparing for the cnn debate tomorrow JI7 Sep 2017 #54

I hope he is EffieBlack Sep 2017 #58

Hoping is a very positive thing ChubbyStar Sep 2017 #64

Yeah GaryCnf Sep 2017 #70

Before this weekend, it wasn't considered a political issue and rank and file EffieBlack Sep 2017 #79

Yep GaryCnf Sep 2017 #81

Has Schumer, Pelosi, Harris, Booker, Clinton, Biden, Obama, or Carter? riderinthestorm Sep 2017 #56

Eric Holder did... sheshe2 Sep 2017 #120

Oh!!! Here is Hillary!!!! sheshe2 Sep 2017 #165

Half the people you listed aren't even elected officials anymore, so what was the point? Tarheel_Dem Sep 2017 #178

Oooh. Little transparency heavy. JNelson6563 Sep 2017 #66

Asking for a friend? shanny Sep 2017 #67

No. Asking for me. I got my answer EffieBlack Sep 2017 #68

So happy you are satisfied ChubbyStar Sep 2017 #69

Me too. shanny Sep 2017 #73

Thanks for your post. a la izquierda Sep 2017 #91

I doubt that very seriously. nt Jamaal510 Sep 2017 #96

I haven't heard or read anything from him on that. nt SunSeeker Sep 2017 #99

Willfully Snarky ProfessorGAC Sep 2017 #101

More stirring the pot left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #102

For some, it never ends. TheCowsCameHome Sep 2017 #104

Internet trolls? left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #112

He recently said that Trump has "strong racist tendencies" oberliner Sep 2017 #108

Tendencies? Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #130

White people not gonna like this.... LexVegas Sep 2017 #115

Yep. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #122

I don't think so. MineralMan Sep 2017 #118

I hope not... lame54 Sep 2017 #128

serious question... Raster Sep 2017 #129

no heaven05 Sep 2017 #152

The discomfort and defensiveness are very interesting, arent they? EffieBlack Sep 2017 #172

why yes, yes it is heaven05 Sep 2017 #173

Thats been clear for quite some time stevenleser Sep 2017 #179

Sacred cow? Seriously? DLevine Sep 2017 #187

Yes, seriously. All the comments under this OP show how accurate my post was. nt stevenleser Sep 2017 #188

Dont know don't care. What a shitty divisive thread riderinthestorm Sep 2017 #180

How horrible that we ask if someone has said anything in support of a vulnerable constituency group stevenleser Sep 2017 #181

Of course we can ask the question EffieBlack Sep 2017 #184

Yup, sacred cows and all... nt stevenleser Sep 2017 #186

Has Bernie said if he prefers strawberry jam to grape jelly? left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #182

It better be Strawberry Jam on biscuits and Grape Jelly on toast or I'll be p o'd. dae Sep 2017 #183

I don't know melman Sep 2017 #185

He still hasn't said anything about it EffieBlack Sep 2017 #189

I don't recall saying anything like that melman Sep 2017 #190

I didn't say you said it n/t EffieBlack Sep 2017 #191