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jberryhill

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12. What you'd have to do...

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:10 PM

Sep 2017

The edge case here is whether you are refusing to stand on the basis of a religious belief. At that point, you could claim you were fired because of your religious belief, for which the employer refused to provide a reasonable accommodation.

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So let me get this straight, an employer can FORCE you to be subjected to the National [View all] Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 OP

Sure jberryhill Sep 2017 #1

So you can make it a job requirement to be patriotic during a song? Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #4

Sure, why not? jberryhill Sep 2017 #9

All the more reason for everyone to have the option of being in a union. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #25

Unions can try to bargain anything they want. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2017 #30

I don't think so . . . but they can make you stand and put your hand over your heart DrDan Sep 2017 #10

Not sure what it means to make you be patriotic, but yes they can make you stand at attention onenote Sep 2017 #22

But the NFL players have a union, so they aren't at-will employees. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #26

The OP question is not about NFL employees jberryhill Sep 2017 #36

They are entertainers and do have to meet certain performance requirements. They are also union... PoliticAverse Sep 2017 #2

Yep Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #3

Now he's going to have to start another thread.... jberryhill Sep 2017 #19

Lol! cwydro Sep 2017 #21

No, I actually was looking for you to respond, I didnt really want to get my answer from a certain Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #28

I'm wrong often jberryhill Sep 2017 #44

Owners are demanding participation in one way , not the other. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #45

Exactly right. I am a lawyer. Why do you want one? AngryAmish Sep 2017 #5

That was my question, as an employer who sells typewriters, i can force patriotic songs on Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #6

What you'd have to do... jberryhill Sep 2017 #12

But you would have to back that claim up Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #13

Yeah jberryhill Sep 2017 #15

We had a guy where I work try that Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #23

The case I had in mind was this one.... jberryhill Sep 2017 #20

but you could break into a coughing fit, sneeze, vomit... samnsara Sep 2017 #31

I believe if you had a daily vomit... jberryhill Sep 2017 #37

Yup. Eko Sep 2017 #7

It's like you've never heard of an employee code of conduct. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2017 #8

Basically, yes . . . MousePlayingDaffodil Sep 2017 #11

They can even make you wear flair!... PoliticAverse Sep 2017 #14

Heh-heh MousePlayingDaffodil Sep 2017 #18

It's a great movie Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #24

One of my favorite movies ever! smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #32

This is ABSOLUTELY the reason companies are able to fire outed Nazi protesters we seen in the news. JoeStuckInOH Sep 2017 #16

Eliot apparently believes you are required to employ Nazis jberryhill Sep 2017 #17

Are you a federal employee? leftstreet Sep 2017 #27

i was tricked into going to a 'prayer meeting' ... samnsara Sep 2017 #29

That's interesting I had this same convo with a local at at a bar tonight. Volaris Sep 2017 #33

OK. I have some experience in this louis c Sep 2017 #34

OK, so as you and others have stated, you can be forced to show patriotism so to speak. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #35

If you are an employee at will louis c Sep 2017 #38

"Offices, gas stations, fortune 500 companies, Wall Street, etc." jberryhill Sep 2017 #39

The First Amendment does not apply at work. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #40

Yep....I don't get why people don't know that. AncientGeezer Sep 2017 #41

Welcome to DU, and the discussion. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #42

I know that Jehovahs Witnesses don't participate in pledge of allegiance ecstatic Sep 2017 #43