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musicblind

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61. And three of my friends who voted for Bernie in the primaries opted not to vote for Hillary.
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 08:41 AM
Sep 2017

Out of the four of us, I was the lone friend who voted for Bernie in the primaries and Hillary in the General. I tried hard to convince my friends to please vote for Hillary, but I was not able to convince them not to vote for Stein (in two cases) and Johnson (the third case).

They kept insisting that Sanders was "robbed" by the DNC. They watched The Young Turks, or at least two of them did, and they felt very passionately about the whole issue. One of them stopped watching John Oliver because of his segment on Jill Stein... and still won't watch him to this day.

Another one of them, the one who went on to vote for Johnson, tagged me in over 70 anti-Hillary ads and memes on facebook. I ended up having to block him. That ended a friendship. I am still friends with the other two and hope to be friends with them for years to come. I hope they will vote Democratic in future elections, though you cannot force anyone to vote a particular way.

But to say this stuff didn't happen because that isn't your personal experience, that doesn't mean it's true.

I live in North Carolina. We were a swing state and I saw this stuff plenty. It made me frustrated and sad. As someone who voted for Sanders, I was already sad that he lost the primary and seeing false information didn't make that easier. One of the biggest things that solidified me back around Clinton was her book Stronger Together which laid out a detailed plan for our country and revisiting passages from her book Living History. But not everyone has that kind of interest or time. A lot of people just see some random meme on Facebook and go, "Whelp, looks right to me."

Confirmation bias is a powerful thing.

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And There You Have It Me. Sep 2017 #1
Have what? That the sun rises in the morning and sets at night? Tom Rinaldo Sep 2017 #75
Nice Try Me. Sep 2017 #80
I agree. Was going to say more, but. nt Blue_true Sep 2017 #132
Yep, I would say more but I dont DARE Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #105
Exactly Me. Sep 2017 #109
So hard to guard against false flag trolls. Vibes to all the admins and moderators applegrove Sep 2017 #2
I'm in Wisconsin and voted for Sanders in the Primary (Clinton in the General) Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #3
I saw a lot of it on the timelines of two friends- they're both prone to conspiracy theories, bettyellen Sep 2017 #5
Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #17
I don't know you, but I did see the ads you're pretending didn't exist. bettyellen Sep 2017 #21
+1 okieinpain Sep 2017 #32
+2 byronius Sep 2017 #35
+3 Hekate Sep 2017 #42
The russian-republican BETRAY AMERICA ads were poison Achilleaze Sep 2017 #56
+4 musicblind Sep 2017 #58
+5 yallerdawg Sep 2017 #73
+5 Tarheel_Dem Sep 2017 #97
Well said. I refuse to be gaslighted and told "none of this ever happened" emulatorloo Sep 2017 #111
have you heard of the term Propaganda? JCinNYC Sep 2017 #45
Well, since you didnt see it Eko Sep 2017 #6
Nowhere did I claim that Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #64
She absolutely should have gone more often, that was a big tactical mistake. Agschmid Sep 2017 #7
Hindsight is 20/20 Ninsianna Sep 2017 #46
Yes, it is. NanceGreggs Sep 2017 #51
Had WI been hand counted, same result :-) Ninsianna Sep 2017 #52
This! mcar Sep 2017 #60
It was so close. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #66
I is hard for people to accept they were delisen Sep 2017 #74
I've yet to see one person who posted or retweeted RT or Guccifer admit regret. bettyellen Sep 2017 #83
She campaigned a lot here in FL mcar Sep 2017 #77
Yes, that would totally have overcome this ehrnst Sep 2017 #90
Trump won" by less than 30,000 votes mcar Sep 2017 #130
Considering what was going on in WI Ninsianna Sep 2017 #143
They can't get rid of Scott Walker in Wisconsin, and Russ Feingold lost, too. LisaM Sep 2017 #151
It's amazing how many people mindlessly repeat that Republican talking point Ninsianna Sep 2017 #122
There are many people lapucelle Sep 2017 #152
Sure, but its not 100% hindsight. Agschmid Sep 2017 #54
Yeah, actually it is 100% hindisight. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #124
It's not hindsight when people were telling you DURING the campaign Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #65
Know what people were also telling you during the campaign? Ninsianna Sep 2017 #123
OMG you mean that a visit from HRC would have saved Feingold, too! ehrnst Sep 2017 #144
It certainly couldn't have hurt Clinton Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #145
Find another sale on strawmen? ehrnst Sep 2017 #146
Stop trying to point out fallacies--you might hurt yourself. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #147
See, that's still pushing a misconception frazzled Sep 2017 #88
Like I have said and will say till I am blue in the face. Blue_true Sep 2017 #133
Let's count the number of fallacies in your post Pugster Sep 2017 #8
Those would be fallacies if I made that claim. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #68
Your Internet browser history may have been missing key cookies, or greyl Sep 2017 #10
My FB friends will be happy to hear that Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #84
I don't think there's any need to get defensive here, Cuthbert. Tobin S. Sep 2017 #11
And to get to the bottom of it so it doesn't happen again. Head-in-the-sand denial is foolish. brush Sep 2017 #34
I want that, too; I really do. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #110
We know that this kind of thing happened rather you standingtall Sep 2017 #12
I remember seeing so many reposts about writing in on ballots and there were only something bettyellen Sep 2017 #30
I volunteered in MI during the recount, and there were enough to be pissing off Ninsianna Sep 2017 #47
Thanks for the eyewitness report, really appreciate it. emulatorloo Sep 2017 #115
To be fair, I only witenessed the couple of precincts my table counted. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #129
So how many times Jakes Progress Sep 2017 #14
Twice that I know of. nt Autumn Sep 2017 #63
Hmm. Love to hear the text of those speeches. Jakes Progress Sep 2017 #71
You can probably find them. Russ Feingold joined Bernie at the one in Madison.nt Autumn Sep 2017 #72
I'll keep looking. Jakes Progress Sep 2017 #101
I don't know where the transcripts are but here are links to a couple that Bernie did for her Autumn Sep 2017 #104
Thanks for those. But ouch. Jakes Progress Sep 2017 #107
Fox is always full of shit because Fox news pulls those numbers out of their ass. Autumn Sep 2017 #108
The numbers are from a poll conducted by Marquette Law School. lapucelle Sep 2017 #154
He has a difficult time saying just her name. I think the propaganda worked on him too.... bettyellen Sep 2017 #85
That's not true at all RandomAccess Sep 2017 #94
You voted for Hillary. Good on you. Jakes Progress Sep 2017 #100
All of which has nothing to do with Bernie RandomAccess Sep 2017 #116
Well, you can't read people's minds. Jakes Progress Sep 2017 #119
Yeah, like I said RandomAccess Sep 2017 #120
Oh. So you are one of those. Jakes Progress Sep 2017 #148
Facts DON'T matter when they're non sequitur and off-topic RandomAccess Sep 2017 #149
Could be funny. Jakes Progress Sep 2017 #153
LOL -- And then whadja dream? RandomAccess Sep 2017 #155
Conversation eludes you. Jakes Progress Sep 2017 #156
I'm assuming they had algorithims based on a persons association LiberalFighter Sep 2017 #33
I had seen quite a few and then started clicking on "see less" like this. I just didn't want to bettyellen Sep 2017 #38
I've done that too. LiberalFighter Sep 2017 #44
I explained to friends that those RT and Guccifer things were repackaged RW crap.... bettyellen Sep 2017 #81
I will say the same thing. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #43
you just weren't looking, then obamanut2012 Sep 2017 #82
I wish my FB Life were that cloistered last year... JHan Sep 2017 #93
Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #4
Instead of trolling, why not say something constructive? elias7 Sep 2017 #9
I belive my sense of humor was on point. nycbos Sep 2017 #15
yeah, you're not biased. nt m-lekktor Sep 2017 #18
Pot, meet Kettle. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #48
what would you like us to respond to? m-lekktor Sep 2017 #19
If you have apps that block all facebook ads, then you should disqualify yourself from this convo. eggplant Sep 2017 #36
You just disqualified yourself from the conversation. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #70
This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Sep 2017 #114
I still don't understand why you seem get so defensive in threads about Busters? emulatorloo Sep 2017 #117
While only one is from the midwest I can count 5 family members and 4 friends who voted for Bernie CentralMass Sep 2017 #13
Irrelevant Pugster Sep 2017 #16
Actually, it is explicable. Tobin S. Sep 2017 #22
Same in my family lovemydogs Sep 2017 #25
And three of my friends who voted for Bernie in the primaries opted not to vote for Hillary. musicblind Sep 2017 #61
The Russians were trying to destroy Clinton 4now Sep 2017 #20
The Russians are trying to destroy America...right now. Tobin S. Sep 2017 #26
Well, don't count on the GOP for help KPN Sep 2017 #39
"Casting blame seems idiotic and self defeating in that light. Get with the program folks." Tobin S. Sep 2017 #41
They found fertile ground among the disenchanted. PubliusEnigma Sep 2017 #23
I supported Bernie but, I never read Facebook ads nor lovemydogs Sep 2017 #24
There is no need to feel defensive. Tobin S. Sep 2017 #28
There were plenty of people fallout87 Sep 2017 #27
Yep, but I'm sure the Facebook ads didn't help matters any. Tobin S. Sep 2017 #29
FB was only one platform that was pushing that. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #49
Well, well, well... dlk Sep 2017 #31
I don't know a single Bernie voter -- Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2017 #37
I've run into several who proudly announced they were staying home. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #50
I know a few who didnt, but I know some ardent Sanders supporters. Agschmid Sep 2017 #55
As Hillary said in her interview with Chris Hayes, Propaganda works. She is not blaming... Hekate Sep 2017 #40
Wonder what Komrade Kyle (Secular Talk) etc have to say about this Ezior Sep 2017 #53
we saw that line here in DU daily in the lead up to the election beachbum bob Sep 2017 #57
I hope people have learned something from this debacle mcar Sep 2017 #59
Sadly, I don't think they have. FSogol Sep 2017 #62
Same here. They have learned NOTHING and will learn NOTHING. Blue_true Sep 2017 #136
You think? Blue_true Sep 2017 #135
I said I hoped mcar Sep 2017 #141
On JPR there is a ton of pro Russian material Gothmog Sep 2017 #67
It was just reported on CNN that the Russians placed thousands of ads on Facebook.... George II Sep 2017 #86
I remember seeing something where that site was flagged as a "Fake News" outlet AND/OR... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #87
Yes, I remember that too. I won't even go to that site. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #96
You need Silkwood shower and a course of antibiotics afterwards. (nT) ehrnst Sep 2017 #98
Well if the posts there from RT, Cenk Uygur and the Intercept are any indication ehrnst Sep 2017 #89
Yep Gothmog Sep 2017 #95
America is under attack from Putin's troll army workinclasszero Sep 2017 #69
This is the part where I give a glance in the direction Blue_Tires Sep 2017 #76
Yup n/t emulatorloo Sep 2017 #118
They also wanted to control the narrative to explain crazy election results ecstatic Sep 2017 #78
This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #79
Are you in the right thread? ehrnst Sep 2017 #91
?????? JHan Sep 2017 #92
No one said that. He had to have benefitted from it to some extent, and it hurt him as well bettyellen Sep 2017 #99
Take your fist out of the air. Jakes Progress Sep 2017 #102
How many were long time democrats & how many were new to the political process? CrispyQ Sep 2017 #103
Most people under 30 who I have talked to who lean left were adamantly against Hillary Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #106
Do you think they'd support him as a candidate in 2020? n/t leftstreet Sep 2017 #112
Will be interesting to see. Blue_true Sep 2017 #137
Well Nina Turner was an echo chamber of those arthritisR_US Sep 2017 #113
+1. I detest Nina as much as Susan Sarandon. n/t Tarheel_Dem Sep 2017 #121
They both bring bile to my mouth at the mere mention arthritisR_US Sep 2017 #126
The only reason Nina gets invited on these shows is that she and Donald Trump have several.... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2017 #127
Nailed it! arthritisR_US Sep 2017 #128
I can't stand to look at her. nt Blue_true Sep 2017 #139
She was always so bombastic and confrontational but arthritisR_US Sep 2017 #140
That makes two of us. nt Blue_true Sep 2017 #138
Apparently it wasn't effective Bad Thoughts Sep 2017 #125
I still place the main blame on Clinton voters Nevernose Sep 2017 #131
I still voted for Hillary Clinton JonLP24 Sep 2017 #134
Didn't Assange and Greenwald suggest protest voting as well? n/t Tarheel_Dem Sep 2017 #142
Shocking. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #150
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