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MineralMan

(151,180 posts) Mon Oct 2, 2017, 09:55 AM Oct 2017

I saw a report that said the range from Mandalay Bay to [View all]

the concert venue was about 400 yards. What that means is that the asshole was just shooting into the crowd in general as a target. Random victims in a closely packed audience. Somehow, that makes it all seem worse to me. Sheer random murder is as scary as it gets.

I hope we get some additional information on the thought processes that led to this, but I imagine it will take a few days before we hear anything definitive.

This was an act of terror, by definition, but why that man in his 60s started firing remains to be discovered.

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I saw a report that said the range from Mandalay Bay to [View all] MineralMan Oct 2017 OP

"Good guys with guns"... Girard442 Oct 2017 #1

Yep. Intuitively, I would not think he would be effective that far away, LuckyCharms Oct 2017 #2

A .223 round is still deadly well beyond that distance. MineralMan Oct 2017 #7

I understand. Depraved indifference is impossible for regular people to comprehend. LuckyCharms Oct 2017 #11

400 yards is well sarisataka Oct 2017 #19

Knowing the landscape there, the phrase "fish in a barrel" comes to mind. n/t CincyDem Oct 2017 #20

I put 10 of 10 in the black at 1000 meters over open sights... Wounded Bear Oct 2017 #21

In my hunting days, long ago, MineralMan Oct 2017 #23

From the 32nd floor, a golf ball hit with a 3 wood is deadly Not Ruth Oct 2017 #38

This is the kind of junk that led Australia to bite the bullet in 1996 and severely restrict guns. Hoyt Oct 2017 #3

Terror is for a political purpose... Baconator Oct 2017 #4

Not always, it's not. People terrorize other people with alarming MineralMan Oct 2017 #8

Terrorism then... Baconator Oct 2017 #12

According to NRS 202.4415, it's terrorism!!! atreides1 Oct 2017 #29

And who decided that? ck4829 Oct 2017 #13

Not every act of violence is an act of terrorism... Baconator Oct 2017 #16

From a legal perspective it is clearly defined Glassunion Oct 2017 #30

Why would anyone need this type of weapon? Cracklin Charlie Oct 2017 #5

Well, there's no good reason at all for MineralMan Oct 2017 #9

Because freedom. Or some other bullshit slogan Orrex Oct 2017 #26

No good reason at all. 3catwoman3 Oct 2017 #34

I am curious about the motive too. bdamomma Oct 2017 #6

We may never know that motive, though. MineralMan Oct 2017 #15

Why? My bet is girlfriend problems and gambling losses. SharonAnn Oct 2017 #24

I have no idea. MineralMan Oct 2017 #25

"It's a pity that such people don't shoot themselves first." 3catwoman3 Oct 2017 #36

That always occurs to me, too. MineralMan Oct 2017 #41

Plenty of people do shoot themselves, makes one wonder at the impact if they did not Not Ruth Oct 2017 #46

could be bdamomma Oct 2017 #32

What about his father? mainstreetonce Oct 2017 #27

I have no idea. MineralMan Oct 2017 #28

Apparently he was considered the least angry person in his family Not Ruth Oct 2017 #35

Yes. Apparently, he didn't share his anger and rage MineralMan Oct 2017 #39

"...the least violent in the family," is an odd thing to say. 3catwoman3 Oct 2017 #40

It's horrifying Lotusflower70 Oct 2017 #10

Random murder happens a lot here in Chicago. Children and adults dying from stray bullets. mucifer Oct 2017 #14

Yes. It happens here in the Twin Cities, too. MineralMan Oct 2017 #18

Chicago use predictive policing in the form of a strategic subject list Not Ruth Oct 2017 #45

If his wife (or companion) turns up maybe we'll know a little more FakeNoose Oct 2017 #17

the NRA bdamomma Oct 2017 #37

"...it's like they do not care." 3catwoman3 Oct 2017 #47

this report shows the trajectory Motley13 Oct 2017 #22

Go to the 32nd floor and look at the street Not Ruth Oct 2017 #31

Yes, pretty much. MineralMan Oct 2017 #33

Yes.... Adrahil Oct 2017 #42

I'm guessing that he was pissed off at all of humanity. MineralMan Oct 2017 #43

Me too. Adrahil Oct 2017 #44