Joe Biden for 2020

[karynnj]

78. Maybe just as likely, Hillary might have won as Joe and Bernie split the vote

Both Hillary and Bernie had some core supporters who were heart and soul for them. I actually think there were more of them for HRC. Here at DU, which always leans left, you can see nearly a year after the election a very large group of posters, who are almost as hurt for the lost of the dream they had for a Clinton Presidency as the horror of Trump. I also think there were a group of people who Bernie inspired. Those people would not have changed if the race became HRC, Bernie and Biden.

The question is who would lose more of the less attached people to Biden. There were some people with Bernie as the Anybody but Clinton candidate. There were also some of those people for Clinton seeing her as more mainstream (she is) or as the continuation of the still loved Obama Presidency. I have no idea the relative size of these groups -- or the percent of them that would shift to Biden as, for them, he is more what they want. (Note Biden was considered to be one of the least hawkish people, while HRC was among the most in teh Obama administration)