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concreteblue

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36. "unfounded assumptions" may be the wrong words here

Wed Oct 11, 2017, 08:48 PM

Oct 2017

But in the same sense that your words are.
"It goes on and on. This is what rape culture looks like: disbelief of women's experiences. Putting men's feelings above women's safety. There are women who speak out. There are women who speak until they're heard -- and supported, and advocated for, and understood. But it can be hard. "
I agree with this paragraph. What I don't agree with is that any of the hypotheticals you proposed as written are necessarily any of these things.

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"Why didn't she say something?" [View all] WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 OP

real bad Darlene Johnston Oct 2017 #1

I Don't know how to classify this, your first post, Darlene Johnston Hekate Oct 2017 #3

Seriously... (nt) ehrnst Oct 2017 #9

Thank you! nature-lover Oct 2017 #2

i've heard the same bullshit about Obama spanone Oct 2017 #4

In what context? WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #5

K & R +100 Stonepounder Oct 2017 #6

Story of my life LittleGirl Oct 2017 #7

Don't forget the girlie posters in the auto repair shop. lindysalsagal Oct 2017 #8

Yea, that's gross and also very unprofessional. Bluepinky Oct 2017 #62

Sorry.... concreteblue Oct 2017 #10

Sorry I wasn't clearer. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #11

It's the culture of doing what you do in your post: focusing on the female doing something wrong. Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #14

How nice of you to read my mind. concreteblue Oct 2017 #15

This is fascinating. Mariana Oct 2017 #16

"Why are you so angry about the OP and the poster's comments to you?" concreteblue Oct 2017 #29

Most people shout and swear when they're angry Mariana Oct 2017 #32

No. concreteblue Oct 2017 #35

I'm curious what you thought about my response to your post. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #18

Yes concreteblue Oct 2017 #28

What kind of "unfounded assumptions" did I make, other than my inartful wording in the one instance? WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #31

"unfounded assumptions" may be the wrong words here concreteblue Oct 2017 #36

Your response makes it sound like that the hypotheticals I've listed -- which are hardly WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #41

HYPOTHETICALS IN THE SENSE THAT concreteblue Oct 2017 #43

"You are not relating an actual event." WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #44

She could. concreteblue Oct 2017 #47

I guess it's up to you, then. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #48

I don't think I can make myself any clearer. concreteblue Oct 2017 #49

If this is your explanation: WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #52

If you don't concreteblue Oct 2017 #53

Perhaps you didn't understand my last post. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #56

I am starting to think you don't understand your last post concreteblue Oct 2017 #57

Not at all. You're making yourself very clear. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #58

Reading your words, not your mind. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #26

" you will ask "Did you report it?"" concreteblue Oct 2017 #27

Also, concreteblue Oct 2017 #37

Agreed. Theres a tendency these days to label all kinds of behavior bluepen Oct 2017 #17

My wording in that one particular example was inexact and didn't correctly describe the scenario WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #19

I understood what you meant. Mariana Oct 2017 #20

Some people will always look for loopholes, because it's easier than addressing the real problem. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #21

Yep Pacifist Patriot Oct 2017 #23

It absolutely does not water down the word. Pacifist Patriot Oct 2017 #33

really mercuryblues Oct 2017 #34

So depressing! Pacifist Patriot Oct 2017 #40

Nailed it. concreteblue Oct 2017 #46

Yep, and I applaud your patient effort. bluepen Oct 2017 #50

You seem unfathomably hysterical. LanternWaste Oct 2017 #25

THIS. THIS is how we have women whose voices have been stifled! Lyricalinklines Oct 2017 #12

"How were you dressed?" "You shouldn't have been there in the 1st place." Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #13

NAILED IT niyad Oct 2017 #22

Story of a lot of our lives. And those objecting to these examples... Pacifist Patriot Oct 2017 #24

Well said. suffragette Oct 2017 #30

Being hit on at a college party is not "Rape Culture". Period. concreteblue Oct 2017 #38

You are completely missing the point. Pacifist Patriot Oct 2017 #39

"If you don't grasp that dismissing women's instincts about their well-being is symptomatic of rape WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #42

I understand it perfectly. concreteblue Oct 2017 #45

Thanks for demonstrating my point beautifully. Much appreciated! Pacifist Patriot Oct 2017 #63

it's not the hitting-on that is the problem Kali Oct 2017 #54

That is understood. concreteblue Oct 2017 #55

... Kali Oct 2017 #60

Touche' concreteblue Oct 2017 #61

There is intentional misunderstanding going in here. Mariana Oct 2017 #59

It was originally inartfully worded. concreteblue Oct 2017 #64

You dug up a three week old thread to say that? Mariana Oct 2017 #65

Had not logged in in three weeks. concreteblue Oct 2017 #66

Putting men's feelings above women's safety. mountain grammy Oct 2017 #51