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Response to Squinch (Reply #147)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 11:36 AM

157. Trump is in the White House because of systemic failings of our government which were enabled

 


mostly by the GOP but not wholly. our party, not those frustrated with it from the left, IS partly culpable for where we are today. Trump is hardly a fucking aberration. He's the natural progression from the likes of Herman Cain and Sarah Palin and Michele Bachman and Rick Perry. This is the republicans running further right and further insane in response to the democrats for decades trying to meet them at a right-shifting middle...because "political realities." That helped to shape those political realities. Thankfully we've started to shift back the other way, and I credit social networking and liberal media in that realm, for that trend, as fraught as it is.

The bashing of democrats, as you call it, is a convenient thing to try to blame Clinton's loss on, but there is no proof at all that Sanders or left-wing pundits got people to not vote for clinton. Most of Sanders voters turned out for Clinton .Sanders endorsed Clinton. Most of those liberals who refused to vote for her may have never intended to. Anecdotally it was the primary and its aftermath(well, and Trump) that made me confident enough to vote for Clinton. Until Clinton signaled that she had any interest in championing policies that were better than esoteric incrementals..until she signaled that she gave a crap about the near half of the democratic and liberal voting public's priorities, I was seriously considering abstaining. Of course I thought there was no way she could lose, and I live in California to boot, but "purity" never factored into that consideration. It was my very real concern that middling democratic policies are part of the reason we've lost 1000 seats. Uninspiring proposals and troubled ones that could have been unassailable if we'd only had the will to do them right(you know, the troubled ACA that passed on party lines and had no price controls?) are the reasons we lose. Letting some very bad policies and practices fly under the radar for years is why we lose. Being weak on voting machines and voter suppression for far too long is why we lose. Defending the news as fair and balanced even while it pretends to be liberal as it shills for even the scum of the earth like Trump over Clinton, is why we lose. And we've been losing for a long time now. You can hardly put all those seat losses at the feet of disaffected liberals.

How can our much smarter and more eloquent leaders continue to have their clocks cleaned so badly? Because they're fighting with both hands tied behind their backs,and they have helped do the tying.

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