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ucrdem

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87. Yes, I remember the Marinelli story, and he seems to have made good on his plans

Sun Oct 22, 2017, 07:42 AM

Oct 2017

to move to Russia where he now teaches English. So that much is true. But apparently his wasn't the only astroturf outfit promoting secession, and unlike Marinelli's, the other didn't fold:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/leader-cal-exit-drops-bid-california-secede-instead-moves-russia-n747706

So that raises two questions: why did Marinelli roll it up after the election, if his Putin-purpose was to splinter the great satan? It looks more like he was getting checks from a Trump operation that may well have diverted them through the bank of Voskresenskiye to cover their tracks. Russia is a big country.

The second question is, if California secession means so much to Marinelli, what the heck is he doing in Russia? IOW when you start drilling down on these Russia stories they fall apart fast. Call me suspicious if you like but I like to call it critical thinking.

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Bannon warns California may try to secede [View all] DonViejo Oct 2017 OP

Sometimes we wish SHRED Oct 2017 #1

Sometimes WE wish meow2u3 Oct 2017 #19

I hear ya SHRED Oct 2017 #20

putin is behind this idea...weakens both california and USA...his dream come true Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #30

+1 Sneederbunk Oct 2017 #34

the thought that russia is behind this is russian propaganda nt msongs Oct 2017 #35

Not sure what you mean, but if in doubt, know this: the original joker behind the push had an office Hekate Oct 2017 #82

If the issue is on the ballot, then perhaps the Russians TheDebbieDee Oct 2017 #97

More Russian propaganda. MrsCoffee Oct 2017 #2

Is anyone investigating... alwaysinflux Oct 2017 #16

Yep. This is the word that needs to get out there. nt Ilsa Oct 2017 #47

Exactly - Bannon is a parrot of Kremlin talking points. Oneironaut Oct 2017 #92

Send in federal troops. dalton99a Oct 2017 #3

If Calif secedes I will move there. The US is becoming unsafe and toxic. Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #4

lol janterry Oct 2017 #5

This. n/t Different Drummer Oct 2017 #6

Me too! n/t TexasBushwhacker Oct 2017 #18

Actually I hope California, Washington, and Oregon break off and form their own country. Initech Oct 2017 #60

We could do that to. Doreen Oct 2017 #61

Right he can run again in a new country. :) Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #66

He would be a wonderful new leader. Doreen Oct 2017 #71

that works for me! :) Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #94

Maybe Russia will help more states leave. Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #65

I'm all for it... I would move in a heart beat! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #70

This guy is a domestic terrorist. redstatebluegirl Oct 2017 #7

This country would be blessed if Bannon would just stop Lint Head Oct 2017 #8

Truly a blessing bdamomma Oct 2017 #68

Now why would they want to do that? Turbineguy Oct 2017 #9

Heard this on RW radio just yesterday underpants Oct 2017 #10

He wishes so he warns. Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #11

Hes way behind. Cascadia is an actual movement. nolabear Oct 2017 #12

The Leader of That "Movement" Went to Russia Earlier This Year Leith Oct 2017 #37

Not the same movement. nolabear Oct 2017 #38

God speed the day... Aristus Oct 2017 #40

Weve got good weather, the ocean, wine and technology. nolabear Oct 2017 #49

They wouldn't be landlocked. jmowreader Oct 2017 #73

Good point! nolabear Oct 2017 #96

Eastern WA, Eastern and Southern Oregon defacto7 Oct 2017 #52

True dat. nolabear Oct 2017 #56

Simply taken care of. Doreen Oct 2017 #63

California needs to secede from Steve Bannon FakeNoose Oct 2017 #13

He and his ilk are not welcome here. Initech Oct 2017 #62

California will do it's own thing,not sure that is seceding..must chap Bannon's ass. Tikki Oct 2017 #14

Bannon is crazy but MontanaMama Oct 2017 #15

Will somebody just shove this guy back in the scotch bottle and smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #17

Hes full of shit . Only people pushing octoberlib Oct 2017 #21

Hasn't this drunks MFM008 Oct 2017 #22

Bannon, shut up you diseased fuck. roamer65 Oct 2017 #23

Sovereignty-association. roamer65 Oct 2017 #24

I wish all blue states would secede. This country can't function with this big of a divide. OliverQ Oct 2017 #25

NY and New England are pre-made Canadian provinces. roamer65 Oct 2017 #28

People say we Minnesotans talk like Canadians already. Thor_MN Oct 2017 #95

Small correction: Bannon spoke at the California Republican Party's semi-annual convention.... Brother Buzz Oct 2017 #26

States tried to secede once ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #27

I'd move there if they did. C_U_L8R Oct 2017 #29

More lies. procon Oct 2017 #31

Oh go eat a steaming bag of rancid dog shit, Bannon. Initech Oct 2017 #32

I like your fervor. roamer65 Oct 2017 #44

Bannon kind of looks like he's already eaten one! Initech Oct 2017 #58

Bannon is a jerk standingtall Oct 2017 #33

He and his crowd of 500 aren't going to do much to turn CA red -- lol. ATL Ebony Oct 2017 #36

I call bullshit Generic Brad Oct 2017 #39

Leader of 'Calexit' just announced he's settling permanently in Russia (April 2017) struggle4progress Oct 2017 #41

The last thing California needs is a Republican in charge. Vinca Oct 2017 #42

If they do, I'll request political asylum there. Nt raccoon Oct 2017 #43

Didn't that Russian guy try this one Skidmore Oct 2017 #45

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2017 #48

That racist douche is spewing Russian propaganda. Just like Trump. rockfordfile Oct 2017 #46

Russia-Linked Facebook Group Tried to Recruit a Texas Secession Organization struggle4progress Oct 2017 #50

Drunk old man complains the sun is too bright bronxiteforever Oct 2017 #51

All 50 states and possessions should secede from Washington D.C. democratisphere Oct 2017 #53

He's manipulating the message again. defacto7 Oct 2017 #54

Idiot. No one is "nullifying" laws. If the federal government wants their laws enforced, they can NYC Liberal Oct 2017 #55

this is bullshit, just like all the bullshit spouted by texas about seceession. Thomas Hurt Oct 2017 #57

Yep- everyone knows this is a Russian thing and yet he gets away with promoting it ... bettyellen Oct 2017 #67

I don't think they will marlakay Oct 2017 #59

At least Bannon's preoocupied with California and not in Europe, trying to resurrect no_hypocrisy Oct 2017 #64

And when a few he addressed turn out to be armed whackos... DFW Oct 2017 #69

No we will not. Caliman73 Oct 2017 #72

K & R. Thank you! n/t KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #75

Washington, Oregon and Nevada need to go with them jmowreader Oct 2017 #74

He's sabotaging the country so he can have an empire of his own making. applegrove Oct 2017 #76

God I wish. RandySF Oct 2017 #77

The California secessionist movement is funded by the Russian government, right? TheDebbieDee Oct 2017 #78

That's what we're supposed to think. ucrdem Oct 2017 #80

The Los Angeles Times, a reputable newspaper, wrote this up last year. The info is available... Hekate Oct 2017 #83

Yes, I remember the Marinelli story, and he seems to have made good on his plans ucrdem Oct 2017 #87

Rachel Maddow Video: Expansionist Russia promotes division everywhere else Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #90

Rachel Maddow Video: Expansionist Russia promotes division everywhere else Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #89

BTW: I posted an OP and thread with lots of resources here: Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #91

I knew it was the repukes behind that nonsense. They laundered it through Russian servers ucrdem Oct 2017 #79

In your dreams, Gin Blossom, in your dreams Hekate Oct 2017 #81

Bannon would like this... Mike Nelson Oct 2017 #84

Let's ask the Texans what they think about states seceding from the Union. DetlefK Oct 2017 #85

lol only doofus rick perry & his backwards tx ilk onetexan Oct 2017 #86

And take their Electoral College votes with them? eShirl Oct 2017 #88

Divisive BS and Russian propaganda! Don't listen to it. Oneironaut Oct 2017 #93

If secession happens, say goodbye to the progressive movement in the United States. Fluke a Snooker Oct 2017 #98