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Tumbulu

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62. It sure is an issue to me- and should be to you

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 03:31 PM

Jul 2012

There is no constitutional right to go shoot people- and the right to bear arms is about having militia's- and you should know that.

Good grief.

This is about unbalanced people having easy access to firearms- which should not be the case and so yes it is political!

And it is about the glorification by the media of violence. It should not be glorified and firearms should not be easy to acquire. One should be required to have liability insurance on it and pass some sort of a test. Like driving a vehicle or flying an airplane.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] GarroHorus Jul 2012 OP

Agree - Please see my post here - DURHAM D Jul 2012 #1

and impose and enforce elleng Jul 2012 #2

The biggest problem is so many with such problems never seek real help. GarroHorus Jul 2012 #5

True. elleng Jul 2012 #7

Another problem is that families are helpless LiberalEsto Jul 2012 #35

I was a law enforcement officer in a very rural area of an eastern mountain byeya Jul 2012 #65

I remember the big change that happened when Reagan Solomon Jul 2012 #67

Where I grew up in central PA, half of them were dead within five years of their "release". DCKit Jul 2012 #68

many states are cutting their budgets for mental illness cbdo2007 Jul 2012 #3

When was he diagnosed with mental illness? Lint Head Jul 2012 #4

The diagnosis is in the act. skip fox Jul 2012 #11

Are the mass killings of innocent families in Iraq and Afghanistan the result of mental illness? Lint Head Jul 2012 #15

HINT: Loughner was not diagnosed until AFTER the shootings GarroHorus Jul 2012 #16

This is a political forum. Politics kills. The politics in Colorado which allows people to Lint Head Jul 2012 #26

Everybody has a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to own as many weapons as they choose. GarroHorus Jul 2012 #27

You the one crying and obvious shouting (large caps) about guns. Lint Head Jul 2012 #32

Buh bye n/t GarroHorus Jul 2012 #33

A should be we all pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #34

Not true. harmonicon Jul 2012 #51

That's why I keep a personal stockpile of nuclear weapons. tclambert Jul 2012 #58

It sure is an issue to me- and should be to you Tumbulu Jul 2012 #62

I 100% disagree with your assessment n/t GarroHorus Jul 2012 #63

"Name one mass shooter" implies individuals who commit the act by themselves. skip fox Jul 2012 #19

Yes. Bush is mentally ill. nt. NCTraveler Jul 2012 #43

People commit obscene crimes in the name of hatred, religion, and ideology - Hell Hath No Fury Jul 2012 #39

McVeigh not mentally ill? No remorse, no compassion. Pathological in his approach? skip fox Jul 2012 #45

so anyone who shoots a bunch of people is per se not guilty arely staircase Jul 2012 #56

Mentally ill and legally insane are two different cockroaches. tclambert Jul 2012 #60

unless he dodged the police because they were sending him anti- arely staircase Jul 2012 #66

You also made a good point. I did not know the police could do that. tclambert Jul 2012 #70

Dictionary - seems GarroHorus Jul 2012 #13

why did his car have Tennessee plates? riverwalker Jul 2012 #6

The Tennessee plates report was erroneous GarroHorus Jul 2012 #9

ok thanks n/t riverwalker Jul 2012 #10

As far as explosives go, if he was studying neuroscience at a graduate level... GarroHorus Jul 2012 #14

Tenn plates appears to be bad info. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #17

Explosives are the easy part Nevernose Jul 2012 #50

It will be intersting to hear what his mother has to say. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2012 #8

Yes, she didn't seem surprised. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #21

the removal of the health/social safety net (or the lack always of anything meaningful librechik Jul 2012 #12

One Would Think That The NRA Would Get Behind Mental Health Care ....... global1 Jul 2012 #18

The NRA is not so much about guns but is more about promoting rightwing nuttery. GarroHorus Jul 2012 #20

The NRA is about promoting gun sales, by any means possible. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #24

Bullshit! GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #42

Look at how they attacked Obama: RW nuttery indeed! Democrats_win Jul 2012 #28

I agree GarroHorus Jul 2012 #29

absolutely DBoon Jul 2012 #36

Their membership would easily qualify. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2012 #23

Mental illiness is the excuse used when you don't fall into that category Hutzpa Jul 2012 #22

Spot on. zeemike Jul 2012 #48

I've dealt with depression issues for more than ten years. hifiguy Jul 2012 #25

It's not just the stigma, it is the cost (most of which is not covered by insurance) and, 1monster Jul 2012 #30

^ Exactly right ^ Wasn't this Tipper Gore's cause? n/t Mimosa Jul 2012 #41

Yes. Let's help them get help. And let's realize sometimes that means institutionalization. reformist2 Jul 2012 #31

Well, evidently he wasn't quite "right"... HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #37

"strangely quiet" "socially off" charlie Jul 2012 #38

Sometimes the sickest won't go for help even if available and affordable..... soccer1 Jul 2012 #40

Make it part of health care. AngryOldDem Jul 2012 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #46

Yes. In other words have all kinds of Health Care for all Mira Jul 2012 #47

We already closed all of the state mental hospitals! Dustlawyer Jul 2012 #49

Part of the reason we are remiss in identifying mental illness... randome Jul 2012 #52

White, devoutly Christian, has an approving quote by G Gordon Libby attacking "Liberals" on facebook enki23 Jul 2012 #53

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) blamed the mass killings as a result of ongoing attacks on religion. vkkv Jul 2012 #54

Is Rush Limbaugh responsible for this? magic59 Jul 2012 #55

there is a distinction, and we do not know. mopinko Jul 2012 #57

Care for the mentally ill is woefully inadequate. Improving that would fix a lot of needless stevenleser Jul 2012 #59

Mental illness that is genetic sometimes doesn't kick in until Cleita Jul 2012 #61

btw- the luby's massacre shooter mopinko Jul 2012 #64

Cho had already been sent to a university counselor Blue_Tires Jul 2012 #69

Sane people don't do stuff like this quaker bill Jul 2012 #71

thank you. Here is my post along the same line. uppityperson Jul 2012 #72

+1 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #73