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still_one

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42. Probably, but by the same token we should not BLINDLY accept every accuser a being factual
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 11:51 PM
Nov 2017

Unless you have been living in a cave, people with political motives LIE.

Forgetting for a moment about the latest allegations of latest Al Franken accuser, let me ask another question instead.

What kind of person indicates they voted for Amy Klobuchar, and "maybe" Al Franken, but also voted for Donald Trump? What kind of LOGIC is that? Klobuchar and Franken have opposite views on EVERYTHING that Trump pushed during his campaign.

It doesn't mean the allegations are false, but it DOESN'T mean they are true either.

It is very hard for me to even conceive of Al Franken at a public fair, taking a photo-OP with someone, where crowds are all over the place, and grabbing her butt cheek in front of her husband.  What the hell for?  I cannot believe he is trying to "get off" on a 2 minute encounter like that, and while I might understand her not calling Franken out, when she tells her husband what Franken did, I sure as hell do NOT understand why her husband wouldn't.

Is the story true?  Maybe.  Is it valid to say that someone who voted for Trump might also lie?  More than maybe.  Turn on Fox News.  Look at the activities of James O'Keefe, Dinish D’Souza, Ashley Todd:

www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/24/mccain-supporter-who-clai_n_137484.html

James O'Keefe is responsible for destroying ACORN, an organization that works with the most vulnerable in our society. What kind of people do that? What kind of people want to take away people's health care, destroy the environment, and fight against every program that attempts to help the most needy and vulnerable in our society?

I am sorry, but I am going to be skeptical on this one, and not take the person's story at face value, because frankly, I believe that a lot people who voted for Trump are not right in the head, and they DO LIE. She has made a serious charge against Al Franken to discredit him, and the fact that she voted for Trump, it is NOT unreasonable to be skeptical.

Prepare for the deluge. [View all] MineralMan Nov 2017 OP
And keep in mind that opportunism abounds in a fevered climate. OilemFirchen Nov 2017 #1
Yes, of course. MineralMan Nov 2017 #5
Not every accusation will be true. LenaBaby61 Nov 2017 #45
Right. And the false accusations will make it that much harder for people who pnwmom Nov 2017 #56
My proctologist stuck his finger up my butt! Beakybird Nov 2017 #2
Fake news without a picture! RKP5637 Nov 2017 #9
Is this supposed to be funny? nini Nov 2017 #10
Are you 12? MineralMan Nov 2017 #11
You should have googled proctologist definition in advance. Sneederbunk Nov 2017 #13
My proctologist is also my optometrist. Martin Eden Nov 2017 #29
Boom boom OnDoutside Nov 2017 #58
Oh I have been ever since Al was mentioned. BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #3
Yes. We must do that! MineralMan Nov 2017 #12
+1. nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #30
Aren't those filthy repigs bdamomma Nov 2017 #33
Yeah, the individual mandate. BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #38
thanks bigman bdamomma Nov 2017 #59
Is this something you know? brettdale Nov 2017 #4
I'm predicting. MineralMan Nov 2017 #6
in the USA people are innocent til proven guilty and people have the right to face their accusers n msongs Nov 2017 #7
Only in a court of law. MineralMan Nov 2017 #8
sadly true.... dhill926 Nov 2017 #18
+1. nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #32
Yep. Snackshack Nov 2017 #53
The pizzagate crew is cooking something else up. They're targeting a "ranking Democrat octoberlib Nov 2017 #14
Conyers riverwalker Nov 2017 #24
Yep. I just posted the article. Their source was the pizzagate guy but they Have documents. octoberlib Nov 2017 #25
Hes 88 years old. Didnt realize that old riverwalker Nov 2017 #34
The shithead placed it on buzzfeed so that The_Casual_Observer Nov 2017 #54
Oh, definitely! Heartstrings Nov 2017 #15
And it appears that it touches people on the left. Or, at least, not the far right question everything Nov 2017 #16
Yes, and prepare for the media to muddy what should be the long-needed reckoning... renegade000 Nov 2017 #17
One big issue to me though... KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2017 #21
Absolutely, at least the topic has been brought to the forefront renegade000 Nov 2017 #22
Some of this may be orchestrated. KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2017 #19
Winter is coming. Many will die of exposure. nt Xipe Totec Nov 2017 #20
Its Conyers riverwalker Nov 2017 #23
Long overdue oberliner Nov 2017 #26
Right! Leith Nov 2017 #35
Powerful men should no longer be able to sexually harass women with impunity oberliner Nov 2017 #36
It Won't Stop by Smearing ONLY Democrats Leith Nov 2017 #41
or ,Like jeremy previn tapermaker Nov 2017 #27
Then this will be the defining issue of 2018 congressional races bronxiteforever Nov 2017 #28
Yup - It Has Started Already Leith Nov 2017 #31
let the chips fall where they may Skittles Nov 2017 #37
This is Russia again, directing the news away from Trump and towards SEX. McCamy Taylor Nov 2017 #39
I'm with you!! Lifelong Protester Nov 2017 #46
Ummmm... moosewhisperer Nov 2017 #40
Probably, but by the same token we should not BLINDLY accept every accuser a being factual still_one Nov 2017 #42
John Fuglesang says.. mountain grammy Nov 2017 #43
It's not just prominent people it's everywhere in scociety. lancelyons Nov 2017 #44
It is beginning to be Lifelong Protester Nov 2017 #47
Well...except for the part where those accusations where groundless. FailureToCommunicate Nov 2017 #50
I hate to say this kimbutgar Nov 2017 #48
The Great Distraction Atman Nov 2017 #49
Unfortunately I agree with you, Mineral Man (BTW, are you a rock hound or a superhero?). lutherj Nov 2017 #51
I used to have a business selling mineral specimens to collectors. MineralMan Nov 2017 #60
For me the problem is going to be having all types of harassment lumped nadine_mn Nov 2017 #52
Remember #MeToo? LeftInTX Nov 2017 #55
Most will not speak. Swedish Alicia Nov 2017 #57
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