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Bettie

(19,712 posts)
23. She's a product of hollywood in her younger years
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 05:15 PM
Nov 2017

She was incredibly beautiful at a time when young, beautiful women were a commodity and I'm betting she had to walk a fine line to avoid the casting couch (if she was able to). Who knows what she has dealt with in her life.

I find it sad and wonder if she feels responsible for things that have happened to her.

And it is a reminder that we need to be different, because we don't live in that time.

It's like people judging people who lived in the 1930's by today's standards. They fail, every time, because society was very different. Society changes so fast now that sometimes, things that were OK two weeks ago are wrong.

No, I don't excuse Trump or people who sexually abuse others, but I have empathy for women who grew up in a time when it was taken for granted that women would be taken advantage of, sexually harassed and abused as a matter of course and who had little or no recourse.

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Heresy She Wrote ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #1
She's 92 True Dough Nov 2017 #2
Yep. nt ecstatic Nov 2017 #3
agreed jodymarie aimee Nov 2017 #5
I'll ask you the same. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #9
Maybe you should be grilling people at old-age homes True Dough Nov 2017 #10
I don't consider asking you to elaborate on your agreement with the other poster... NCTraveler Nov 2017 #12
And most people True Dough Nov 2017 #14
So now we've moved on to "classy". NCTraveler Nov 2017 #17
Your wrath is better saved for True Dough Nov 2017 #20
"Wrath" NCTraveler Nov 2017 #21
Your deft movement of the goalposts is bemusing LanternWaste Nov 2017 #27
Can't make heads or tails of your post True Dough Nov 2017 #30
Do you think Angela reads here? WinkyDink Nov 2017 #58
Wouldn't matter to me True Dough Nov 2017 #64
I concur. There is an irony in the use of foul language to attack Lansbury who is talking about Doodley Nov 2017 #72
Thanks, Doodley True Dough Nov 2017 #73
Where does she justify rape? Doodley Nov 2017 #47
You are 100% right -- ignore them obamanut2012 Nov 2017 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author MrsCoffee Nov 2017 #15
My feeling too. n/t FSogol Nov 2017 #7
At what age do we simply give people a free pass? NCTraveler Nov 2017 #8
My mom died at 90. cwydro Nov 2017 #43
That's an awful situation that your mom found herself in, cwydro True Dough Nov 2017 #44
My mom was a tough lady. cwydro Nov 2017 #46
That is the first thing I thought when I read this. Drahthaardogs Nov 2017 #57
Angela, I am ashamed for you. saidsimplesimon Nov 2017 #4
Is the 14 year old girl partially at fault because she's pretty? lunatica Nov 2017 #6
I agree with her to some extent. Doodley Nov 2017 #11
You're not alone. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #13
Very, very provocative for women to leave the house unveiled. LanternWaste Nov 2017 #31
I don't think that is the point she is making. Doodley Nov 2017 #48
Then you should be ashamed of yourself obamanut2012 Nov 2017 #54
You can cut out the self-righteous insults. Doodley Nov 2017 #66
What do you agree with? yardwork Nov 2017 #60
I think she is talking about the culture we are living in now. We have been manipulated to Doodley Nov 2017 #65
At 92, I accept Bettie Nov 2017 #16
That's about the size of it. OnDoutside Nov 2017 #18
"She grew up in that time" NCTraveler Nov 2017 #19
She's a product of hollywood in her younger years Bettie Nov 2017 #23
I will judge anyone blaming rape on women. Anyone. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #28
I accept this argument from old WOMEN Bettie Nov 2017 #37
She may have 'grown up in that time', sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #24
I'm really shocked at this line of excuse. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #25
So a beautiful 19 year old girl ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #22
Men actually cannot control whether they are sexually aroused by the sight of a beautiful woman. FarCenter Nov 2017 #45
Getting a boner because you see a hot girl and acting on it are 2 entirely different things. phleshdef Nov 2017 #70
I think she is isn't talking about a specific 19 year old, but a culture where women themselves are Doodley Nov 2017 #49
Lots of posters in this thread agreeing with her obamanut2012 Nov 2017 #55
It sucks to hear more than one point of view? Doodley Nov 2017 #69
Nope. As a guy, I've yet to see a woman so stunning mythology Nov 2017 #26
+infinity ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #33
At 92, we possess the wisdom to change the archaic and bigoted perspectives LanternWaste Nov 2017 #29
What were you like... tonedevil Nov 2017 #32
I'll be less intolerant and less idiotic than I am now. LanternWaste Nov 2017 #35
So you are speculating... tonedevil Nov 2017 #39
The view from MFM008 Nov 2017 #34
Maybe she was reading pintobean Nov 2017 #36
This. Nt NCTraveler Nov 2017 #42
Wham Dorian Gray Nov 2017 #52
I didn't see any thread suggesting that Franken's behavior was caused by Tweeden's seduction. yardwork Nov 2017 #62
I don't care if a woman is naked and drunkenly walking down a busy street at midnight NewJeffCT Nov 2017 #38
You don't care if a woman is naked in a busy street at midnight. Do you not see a problem there? Doodley Nov 2017 #50
The only problem there is your reading comprehension. phleshdef Nov 2017 #71
The woman had a featured role in Gaslight, FFS! displacedtexan Nov 2017 #40
i belive Al was set up tirebiter Nov 2017 #41
However old she is, she has lived thorough the past 40 years treestar Nov 2017 #51
I am 70 and I understand what she is saying. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2017 #56
You are right. A girl who dresses as a tart, shouldn't be surprised if some men think she Doodley Nov 2017 #67
My mother died at 91, faculties intact. I don't think she would WinkyDink Nov 2017 #59
Blame the woman? Now THAT'S a tale as old as time. Orrex Nov 2017 #61
Blame the women for being attractive? Sexual assault and harassment has NOTHING SummerSnow Nov 2017 #63
Do you really think that is the point she is making? Doodley Nov 2017 #68
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