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19. I agree.

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 11:15 PM

Dec 2017

Rachel’s guest, Senator from Hawaii (forgive me, I forgot her name), did NOT give a convincing argument as to why she and her colleagues are urging him to resign. Basically she sited the word of five ppl, some of whom, IMO, are not being truthful. Accuser number one was very obviously a willing participant in a rowdy USO show, even instigating bumping and grinding with other entertainers during the performance, but later singling out Franken as a sexual predator.

Several others wish to fling accusations under the veil of anonymity.

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The Franken matter is a classic example of why Democrats lose and lose and lose and lose and lose... [View all] LBM20 Dec 2017 OP

we're too nice. van jones was on the late show last night. DesertFlower Dec 2017 #1

No one admires spineless weakness. They admire STRENGTH and CLARITY. And that is why Dems LOSE. LBM20 Dec 2017 #2

But our leadership raises lots of money! ZX86 Dec 2017 #5

He would know. awesomerwb1 Dec 2017 #61

I can't disagree with this. I'm so discouraged. yardwork Dec 2017 #3

If this hitjob forces Franken out, all these scumbags will do is do it again because it WORKS. LBM20 Dec 2017 #4

Very depressing. We always bring a knife to a gunfight Va Lefty Dec 2017 #6

The hell we do Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2017 #9

I stand corrected. You are correct sir Va Lefty Dec 2017 #12

We bring a knife to a gunfight - and then stab it in the backside of our own Pachamama Dec 2017 #43

It demoralizes potential voters. Willie Pep Dec 2017 #7

The only person to blame for this is Al Franken himself VMA131Marine Dec 2017 #8

This is only a scandal because we're pretending it is Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2017 #10

These are BULLSHIT claims by Republicans from MANY YEARS AGO before he was ever in the Senate. LBM20 Dec 2017 #14

They weren't that many years ago and quite frankly it's irrelevant VMA131Marine Dec 2017 #37

These claims are WEAK as wet noodles aka SHEER BULLSHIT HITJOBS.Moore is a very DIFFERENT situation. LBM20 Dec 2017 #45

Without a hint of scandal? liberal_patriot_md Dec 2017 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author LisaL Dec 2017 #20

Except during elections where candidates kacekwl Dec 2017 #27

Of course. liberal_patriot_md Dec 2017 #34

Good points. spooky3 Dec 2017 #29

As in not one Obama Admin official faced dismissal due to VMA131Marine Dec 2017 #38

Have you forgotten liberal_patriot_md Dec 2017 #40

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2017 #52

What, exactly, has been proven that SO disgusts you that Franken has to resign? lapfog_1 Dec 2017 #54

That is untrue...Tweeden works for a Hannity pal and is a birther...the second person Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #56

I'm honestly about ready to give up at this point. Fuck. Initech Dec 2017 #11

And lose and lose. zentrum Dec 2017 #13

How many of the 29 Democratic Senators against Franken are on record calling on Moore to quit? Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #15

I'd venture to guess that the number is Bettie Dec 2017 #35

Or on Trump? Pachamama Dec 2017 #44

The dems take is that the GOP needs to clean their own house; we clean ours. -nt CrispyQ Dec 2017 #59

If this works for them, the GOP is going to keep doing it to other Dems IronLionZion Dec 2017 #16

They will and well lose. liberal_patriot_md Dec 2017 #22

I still can't believe they elected a sexual assaulter by excusing "locker room talk" IronLionZion Dec 2017 #23

The thing thats worse with Moore liberal_patriot_md Dec 2017 #28

Senators from states with GOP Governors will be targeted. Dawson Leery Dec 2017 #25

I Would Love NewEnglandAutumn Dec 2017 #17

I agree. tavernier Dec 2017 #19

This is a sickening, demoralizing, and stupid move by the Dems. Sen Hirono was not convincing at all chimpymustgo Dec 2017 #49

Vitter, Stanford, Joe Bartons nude texts the rethugs get off kimbutgar Dec 2017 #21

My thoughts exactly Pepsidog Dec 2017 #24

SHIT like this is why Im an independent (who votes dem and Bernie). nt Lucky Luciano Dec 2017 #26

So, we should listen to anything you have to say on how the Party should proceed? brooklynite Dec 2017 #33

Yes your highness Lucky Luciano Dec 2017 #41

Because the Dems have done so well on their own? MindPilot Dec 2017 #58

Totally agree wisteria Dec 2017 #30

If Franken does resign, he should make the effective date and time one minute... hvn_nbr_2 Dec 2017 #31

Oh Dems are always quick to find a backbone... Docreed2003 Dec 2017 #32

What else are we going to do with all that dry powder... JHB Dec 2017 #42

Ive never seen DU this solidly riled up peequod Dec 2017 #36

I have heard this while being out tonight four different times. Two of the people are lunasun Dec 2017 #39

I've said it before.. disillusioned73 Dec 2017 #46

KICK!!!! Bengus81 Dec 2017 #47

"Will no one rid me of this meddlesome senator?" dalton99a Dec 2017 #48

I would post something like this ProfessorPlum Dec 2017 #50

Democrats, as usual, are their own worst enemy! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #51

Doing the right thing is never the wrong move. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #53

Indeed. I just got off the phone from calls to Senators PatrickforO Dec 2017 #55

Overbearing self-righteousness is self-defeating. democratisphere Dec 2017 #57

Does anyone actually believe that railroading Franken is going to HELP the Democratic Party? ollie10 Dec 2017 #60