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LAS14

(13,783 posts) Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:20 AM Dec 2017

The Al Franken flap has produced a good thing. [View all]

It has raised to the forefront the idiocy of "zero tolerance" and "the default should be to believe the woman." Faced with putting these ideas into action in all cases has made DUers (and, I hope thousands/millions) of other people realize that "Zero tolerance is zero common sense." (Another poster). I'm not saying the accusers are lying. Dunno. I'm just saying get real. Don't put sex in some sort of Victorian/Puritan magical category. Care about the environment and the poor and our health care!

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The Al Franken flap has produced a good thing. [View all] LAS14 Dec 2017 OP

It should NOT be I believe the women janterry Dec 2017 #1

Exactly SHRED Dec 2017 #4

+1, if we wanted to accept things as the come with no discernment we'd be republicans uponit7771 Dec 2017 #17

It's not about sex, it's about power. zaj Dec 2017 #2

In can we SAS this with the McMartin witch trials nm bagelsforbreakfast Dec 2017 #3

Allegations of sexual misbehavior should be like commenting about bombs on an airplane. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2017 #5

Are you saying the default should be to assume the women are lying? oberliner Dec 2017 #6

Welcome to Full Ignore. eppur_se_muova Dec 2017 #8

If "the default should be to believe the woman" is idiocy - what should the default be? oberliner Dec 2017 #9

It should be to pay careful attention to the facts. All of the facts. LAS14 Dec 2017 #12

It should be to take the charges seriously dsc Dec 2017 #18

As a woman, I'm kind of tired of that. Pacifist Patriot Dec 2017 #14

I thought the same ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #7

Same Senators have decried zero tolerance in other contexts. delisen Dec 2017 #11

Even Manson got a day in court....... Bengus81 Dec 2017 #10

trying to disappear H Clinton and Franken - two delisen Dec 2017 #13

How about we judge people we like the same way we judge people we dislike . DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #15

It's also made my 2020 primary choice really fucking easy BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #16

Victorian/Puritan has nothing to do with it, RandomAccess Dec 2017 #19