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Cuthbert Allgood

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73. OK. I'll talk about me.

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 04:35 PM

Dec 2017

I'm a 50-year-old white guy. When I see Black Lives Matter protesting, it is not my place to say "that's not the way I'd do it." My place is to listen to them and try to understand their point and the things that happened that caused them to need to protest in that fashion. I need to not react as me, but listen as another human being to the pain of a fellow human being. Only by doing that can I possibly hope to understand a reality that I have no ability to understand otherwise. My daily life looks nothing like theirs. The things I live through are nothing like what they live through.

As a 50-year-old white guy, I can either look at what you reacted to use the filter of my male life or I can try to understand what they have been through. I can give them the agency and voice they need.

Our "person" HAS to be up for discussion because it is our person that creates the filter through which we understand EVERYTHING.

And, for the record, I think I have been nothing but patient in trying to help you understand the last sentence I just typed. I am fully aware that coming face-to-face with your privilege is a hard thing. Gone through it a lot in my life.

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Well, Just Maybe Women Are Sick of This Shit From All Kinds of Men. [View all] VermontKevin Dec 2017 OP

Another thought. It's not all men. brush Dec 2017 #1

On the first post, even. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #5

Another hit and run OP from the usual suspects... Thor_MN Dec 2017 #13

Yup. Hortensis Dec 2017 #17

I suggest women be as militant as possible. Cary Dec 2017 #34

You don't really understand rhetoric and agency, do you? Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2017 #39

I understand abuse and condescension Cary Dec 2017 #56

So you don't think any marginalized group should fight for their agency? Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2017 #59

Notice what you just did... Cary Dec 2017 #62

It isn't abuse or slimy. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2017 #68

Stop telling me what I hear or what I think Cary Dec 2017 #69

OK. I'll talk about me. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2017 #73

Dude, it's an anonymous internet discussion board Cary Dec 2017 #75

Hmmmmm - you seem upset. nt el_bryanto Dec 2017 #40

Of course I am upset. Cary Dec 2017 #53

So we should stop doing what is right because others aren't? Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2017 #60

It's called a coalition Cary Dec 2017 #61

I suggest women be as principled as possible, and most ARE Hortensis Dec 2017 #47

I am just one person so I don't matter Cary Dec 2017 #55

We outnumber them many times. Don't be swayed by predatory noise. Hortensis Dec 2017 #57

exactly n/t flamingdem Dec 2017 #22

Given the OP replied to the same post you did, and 40 minutes before mythology Dec 2017 #23

Given that you have no idea what I mean, I'n not sure you know what I am talking about. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #29

Yes and we are rolling over on our best Senator. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #52

Right. But it's almost all women. And most men pnwmom Dec 2017 #20

Right. People have their own lives and concerns. They're not winking an nodding as sex predators... brush Dec 2017 #35

Yep! mreilly Dec 2017 #24

All men??? Cattledog Dec 2017 #2

Not all men, all "kinds" of men. pnwmom Dec 2017 #21

Wake me up when Republicans are affected. BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #3

what aboutism? Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2017 #41

Agree. Suicide mission initiated by the RW. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #54

Well, this woman thinks it's stupid to be led around the nose by the GOP kcr Dec 2017 #4

Certainly not all men, thank you very much. Glorfindel Dec 2017 #6

If they have not participated directly loyalsister Dec 2017 #7

Wrong. What a presumptous generalization. The vast majority of men have not protected sexual... brush Dec 2017 #9

Horseshit hueymahl Dec 2017 #58

ALL men? really? NRaleighLiberal Dec 2017 #8

You are exactly right Kevin. Thanks for the post. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #10

I guess handmade34 Dec 2017 #11

24 senate dems. Jesus Christ I fear what they know. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #12

IMO they don't know any more than you, that another anonymous person made allegations... brush Dec 2017 #15

It's a Dem staffer. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #16

Who then? Why the anonymity? Jesus! brush Dec 2017 #18

I'm betting the 24 Senate Dems know. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #19

It never occured to you that this just maybe part of a repug hit job? brush Dec 2017 #25

So Bernie Sanders got taken in? Warren, Gillenbrand, Harris? VermontKevin Dec 2017 #30

That's your wording, but they are getting on the bus that Franken is now under. brush Dec 2017 #37

Or I could apply Occam's Razor. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #38

Apply it to the Tweeden case and the photo of her goosing the guitarist's ass. brush Dec 2017 #42

I'm going to apply it to the Dem staffer and 24 Dems. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #44

Figures. You don't want to touch the shakiness of the Tweeden case that started it all. brush Dec 2017 #46

Credibility? Buh Bye ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #64

If you dig deep enough and far enough back Bettie Dec 2017 #14

What nonsense mythology Dec 2017 #26

He's been trying to walk that line Bettie Dec 2017 #32

You're exactly right. No wonder they laugh and call us snowflakes. Vinca Dec 2017 #27

Russian trolls are data mining as we speak. BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #28

Exactly GaryCnf Dec 2017 #48

We have a very good friend who used the "c" word to describe a woman who was CTyankee Dec 2017 #33

Well, let's compare your list to the allegations against Franken: Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2017 #43

Very true treestar Dec 2017 #72

...and we can say goodbye Madam Mossfern Dec 2017 #31

!!! Alice11111 Dec 2017 #51

Maybe CountAllVotes Dec 2017 #36

Are you F'ing kidding GaryCnf Dec 2017 #45

Oh I have a whole essay written out on THAT ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #49

K & R Wwcd Dec 2017 #50

Fail. Iggo Dec 2017 #63

I'm sick of women and men pretending like #metoo has anything to do with touching someone's waist. OhioBlue Dec 2017 #65

i agree with you. waist touching is not groping in my opinion. trueblue2007 Dec 2017 #66

You okay with trump? StarryNite Dec 2017 #67

D'oh. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #70

If enough of them were, why is Donald in office? treestar Dec 2017 #71

They should be. Willie Pep Dec 2017 #74