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TCJ70

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194. She made the wrong call. Whatever her reasons, thats what it looks like to me.

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 08:44 AM

Dec 2017

None of the Franken accusers have very credible accusations. All it takes is a few seconds of looking into them to see that.

- One accepted the apology. Over and done with. I’m not going to be more outraged than the accuser. Her story also has all kinds of holes in it.
- One claims to have been victimized in front of family members, at a photo-op, with cameras on them.
- 4 are anonymous. Not worth considering to me.
- One of them requires Gumby-esque anatomy to pull off. Franken is shorter than me. There’s no way he reached all the way around someone’s back while standing next to someone a grabbed a boob.

All of this foreshadowed by Roger Stone? Garbage. He was pushed out by his colleagues when they should have been able to see these same problems with the accusations.

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The Sexist Skewering of Kirsten Gillibrand [View all] VermontKevin Dec 2017 OP

This. All of this. Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2017 #1

I don't think that she is "craven" or anything like that Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2017 #2

8 spurious allegations? VermontKevin Dec 2017 #4

Yes Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2017 #25

He chose to resign and stop the investigation. Only he can do that. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #27

After he was attacked and was given no wasupaloopa Dec 2017 #30

He chose to end the Senate probe. Was he supposed to force the Ethics panel to call VermontKevin Dec 2017 #36

There was no Senate probe. Stop making shit up. Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #157

I'm not saying no women did. I'm asking you how many is your threshold. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #159

What is yours? Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #198

I think mine is the same as Franken's. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #199

Your reply makes no sense. Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #200

Well, he resigned. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #201

So if he resigns when Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #259

Well said Jakes Progress. Owl Dec 2017 #176

Well said. n/t BlueWI Dec 2017 #195

Exactly! Butterflylady Dec 2017 #278

Well true Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2017 #32

That's precisely my point. Franken knew that once it went to 8 accusers, he was a VermontKevin Dec 2017 #37

8 unfounded accusers. Butterflylady Dec 2017 #279

Riiiight workinclasszero Dec 2017 #84

Excellent post ... LenaBaby61 Dec 2017 #118

Really good post. Most people don't realize the election is in 2018 (in 11 months) JimBeard Dec 2017 #238

When will you stop lying? He has not resigned yet. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #103

Was his speech announcing his impending resignation unclear? VermontKevin Dec 2017 #104

Not at all, but it seems to have confused you. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #110

Well, apparently Governor Dayton is confused, too: VermontKevin Dec 2017 #114

Stop deflecting. The question is when are you going to stop lying? Thor_MN Dec 2017 #153

Tomorrow, the Governor you voted for is naming Franken's replacement. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #175

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #180

Here we go. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #203

You must be crazy if you think I'm going to click a blind link from you. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #204

Lordy, lordy.... it's a link to the site you are posting on. Blind? VermontKevin Dec 2017 #205

According to you... Why the fuck would I click a link in a Greek domain? Thor_MN Dec 2017 #206

It's a post from Democratic Underground. From a DUer. Stop....hold on...stay in control..... VermontKevin Dec 2017 #209

It's a Greek domain, If that is how you see DU, you ain't in Vermont... Thor_MN Dec 2017 #210

It's a post from a DU regular on Twitter. It got over 70 recs. Here's another one: VermontKevin Dec 2017 #211

.gr is a Greek domain. I don't need to cross continents to see DU. Maybe you do. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #214

OMG....DU IS A GREEK FRONT!!!!!!!! Note the link.... VermontKevin Dec 2017 #215

Yeah, if I copy the link location and paste: Thor_MN Dec 2017 #224

Apparently, DU admin routes through Greece. Maybe we are all in on it. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #227

That IS weird, and could do with some explaining. Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #213

Twitter, and Du are Greek fronts, apparently.... VermontKevin Dec 2017 #216

It would be nice to get a straight answer to your question above, Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #219

I can't make you read what is posted to you. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #220

Braver than me. I don't trust blind links from people that attack Democrats. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #218

Put it this way, Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #222

This is DU's admin. Apparently using the same 'greek front' I am. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #225

It's a shortened DU link provided by the Admins tammywammy Dec 2017 #247

Thanks. Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #249

This is DU's admin. Apparently using the same 'greek front' I am. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #223

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #226

Well, it proves you don't understand Twitter, the Internet, and you are still sore I corrected your VermontKevin Dec 2017 #228

It proves that you are either not in the US, or are running a severly hacked OS. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #229

Oh, dear....I guess DU admin isn't in America according to you? VermontKevin Dec 2017 #232

My, you have no idea how the internet works do you? Thor_MN Dec 2017 #233

I copied Twitter. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #234

You copied what your browser sees, which is a Greek URL. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #235

"your corrected a 'typo'" Apparently you didn't. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #236

Ah, so you use Tor to hide your true location... Thor_MN Dec 2017 #237

Well, "Thor," on the Internet, no one knows I am a cat. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #260

It's a shortened DU link provided by the Admins tammywammy Dec 2017 #246

Let's not bring facts into this. I'd much rather have Thor think I was some Soros operative VermontKevin Dec 2017 #261

Interesting that you would pick a liberal philanthropist, very interesting. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #266

So we've moved on from accusing me of being in Greece, then? VermontKevin Dec 2017 #270

Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #119

No. He was told no one would work with him Drahthaardogs Dec 2017 #196

This is truth. I've seen appalling attacks on her here as well. nt LexVegas Dec 2017 #3

I saw her called the B word. Yes I alerted on it. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #6

"Bitter feminist". nt LexVegas Dec 2017 #8

No, the word that rhymes with switch. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #9

I understand. I have seen her called "bitter feminist" just today. nt LexVegas Dec 2017 #10

Yeah, and her first name is Karma meow2u3 Dec 2017 #18

Good for you.. whathehell Dec 2017 #184

You don't have to be a hero to alert on someone calling a woman the B word. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #187

I agree -- I alerted on it as well. n/t. whathehell Dec 2017 #189

I feel like there's only a handful of people here defending Gillibrand from these attacks. Bleacher Creature Dec 2017 #28

You're not alone, and I am just as disturbed, because it does seem to be so few. nt LexVegas Dec 2017 #31

What did you expect...most of us think it is a right wing put up job. And either Sen.Gillibrand Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #97

It can't possibly be Dorian Gray Dec 2017 #231

No. It was a right wing hit job...and even if every word reported about Sen. Franken is true, it Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #264

How's this? trump's attach against her is wrong, as was her leading the charge against... brush Dec 2017 #127

"Misogyny is the last acceptable bigotry of the Left" whathehell Dec 2017 #185

Lovely, we have a child molester running in Alabama and a GOP House rep that used tax payer money to Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #265

I have seen 'attacks' on folks including me because I said I would not vote for her in a primary... Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #105

I was alert on too from the JimBeard Dec 2017 #240

That is very kind of you to say. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #276

Yep..I anticipated that, which is one reason I avoided the "pile on" whathehell Dec 2017 #143

Yes in this very thread. Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #217

Al couches his words. Basically 'since I have been a Senator' no one can accuse me of...' nt fleabiscuit Dec 2017 #255

Good luck with that Egnever Dec 2017 #5

8 charges though, right? VermontKevin Dec 2017 #7

Yes EffieBlack Dec 2017 #16

So, when Franken realized that having a Senate Ethics investigation on 8 charges would be VermontKevin Dec 2017 #23

Who says I disagreed with him? EffieBlack Dec 2017 #67

That is not what happened. He was waiting for the investigation when he was forced out by what 34 Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #98

His own conduct forced him out. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #101

Sorry...I haven't seen conduct that warranted that... Tweeden is a liar...and a Hannity buddy... Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #107

He was waiting when it was one accusation. I am curious about an investigation of 8, the difference. MikeydaDog Dec 2017 #301

Bad judgement in my opinion. And we have no guarantee when McConnell will seat the replacement if at Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #318

Good Post JimBeard Dec 2017 #241

if a number is your gauge then you have lost me Egnever Dec 2017 #19

So, you think having a Senate Ethics investigation over conduct the Senator has already apologized VermontKevin Dec 2017 #21

Your response tells me everything I need to know Egnever Dec 2017 #24

I listened to Franken. In his resignation, he indicated that continuing to be a Senator, and VermontKevin Dec 2017 #26

As a Minnesota voter Lotusflower70 Dec 2017 #43

Franken stopped the Ethics Committee. His choice. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #51

I know Lotusflower70 Dec 2017 #62

Touching someone's waist is not groping kcr Dec 2017 #34

And you are missing the point. After 8 accusations, you apparently expect the VermontKevin Dec 2017 #38

I'm not missing anything. In fact, you're confirming exactly what I've been claiming. kcr Dec 2017 #39

So all 8 are lying? VermontKevin Dec 2017 #44

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2017 #82

I'll answer the "all 8" question with another question... The Polack MSgt Dec 2017 #90

Key letters being "M" , "H", and "O". nt Dreamer Tatum Dec 2017 #95

I will speak for KCR since one of the Gestapo squad invoked censorship by alert. JimBeard Dec 2017 #242

So you are comfortable with the two righties? and the rest are anonymous? Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #106

I'll let Anita Hill speak for me on this one: VermontKevin Dec 2017 #108

What an unconvincing argument...completely different...can't answer the question I guess. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #109

Anita Hill made an unconvincing argument on categorizing sexism politically? ANITA HILL? VermontKevin Dec 2017 #112

Ancient history and a red herring...let's talk about the here and now. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #116

Anita Hill is ANCIENT HISTORY????? Somebody better alert the media who are interviewing her now: VermontKevin Dec 2017 #121

Why can't you discuss what we have now? Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #171

We have Clarence Thomas now, VermontKevin Dec 2017 #174

apples and oranges...that. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #277

Yes. That's how it's done. What's hard to understand about that. It's called due process. brush Dec 2017 #128

Which Franken called a halt to. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #129

Yeah, right. Another empty argument of yours, as is the preoccupation with the number 8. brush Dec 2017 #134

Not empty at all. It's called fact. It's a difficult one, but there it is. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #136

Waist groping is a fact? Yeah, right. brush Dec 2017 #138

Resigning is a fact. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #139

Empty again, huh? I get it, nothing to defend of Dems forcing another Dem out. brush Dec 2017 #142

Actually I am defending a Democratic Senator. Just not the one you were hoping for. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #147

Inconveniently for you, Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #146

The Governor announces his replacement tomorrow. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #148

And yet again, in like lightning you go. Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #150

Forgive me for reporting fact. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #151

I won't forgive you for conveniently ignoring the fact that Franken hasn't yet resigned. Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #152

He can't replace a Senator that has not resigned, stop lying. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #154

Seriously dude....it's all over the news... VermontKevin Dec 2017 #156

Seriously dude, a Senator that has not resigned can not be replaced. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #160

Thanks. Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #161

I think you meant "your employers" when you impugned my writing skills. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #162

Leaving the questions unanswered. When will you stop lying? Thor_MN Dec 2017 #165

Tell us all how defense of Kirsten Gillibrand is anti-Democratic. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #173

Remedial English again? Go back and read your posts in this OP. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #181

It's a funny defense of one Democratic senator that relies on smearing another. Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #182

I think Kevin is working out of Heir der Braun's office. JimBeard Dec 2017 #243

This message was self-deleted by its author JimBeard Dec 2017 #244

This Lotusflower70 Dec 2017 #58

If they were "charges", there'd be due process. Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #169

Franken himself shut down the Senate inquiry. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #177

No, he didn't, and quit avoiding the points people make to you over and over. Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #179

No. One charge proven to be a lie Drahthaardogs Dec 2017 #197

This message was self-deleted by its author Tipperary Dec 2017 #11

You are in the wrong OP. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #15

Ah yes, indeed I am. Thank you. I will delete and stop multi-tasking lol. Tipperary Dec 2017 #22

So? ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #12

On 8 charges, though, right? Tunnel vision on 8 charges? VermontKevin Dec 2017 #13

For someone so hung up on numbers, how about 12 months? Thor_MN Dec 2017 #35

+1 leftstreet Dec 2017 #40

Ahem....This came out before Franken. The other half are paying attention: VermontKevin Dec 2017 #42

And it says that she called for Trump's resignation for sexual misconduct where, exactly? Thor_MN Dec 2017 #49

Well, I am sure you will hold every other Senator to the same standard. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #56

Now a version of "Both sides do it" That's a sad Republican ploy... Thor_MN Dec 2017 #65

LOL tone deaf leftstreet Dec 2017 #50

Lordy....obviously you didn't keep up with female Resistance: VermontKevin Dec 2017 #41

She said fuck twice and remained silent on calling for Trump's resignation due to sexual misconduct. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #64

I am sure you are furiously researching the other 32 Senators, males included, to VermontKevin Dec 2017 #66

Not very original, you already used that ploy in your other post. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #72

She still looks a bit pudgy in that YouTube JimBeard Dec 2017 #245

Two Charges ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #81

You keep on with the number 8. Well the first one is a Hannity/Stone pal and the last one... brush Dec 2017 #133

Indeed. Now you are debating numbers. What is your threshold, then? VermontKevin Dec 2017 #137

I just told you. ONE investigation. Got it? Gillibrand forced him out before that happened. brush Dec 2017 #140

No one forced him out. He made choices. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #149

Even you don't believe that, but keep fooling yourself. brush Dec 2017 #164

With DU right at the front of it Sailor65x1 Dec 2017 #14

What has it told you? BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #20

That Gillibrand knocked two men out of 2020. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #29

I know you hate Franken, but who is the other? BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #33

Bernie. Her "crimes" can't be attacked without bringing up his. Hortensis Dec 2017 #45

Bernie? Really? Why? VermontKevin Dec 2017 #46

For the exact same reason as Gillibrand. Hortensis Dec 2017 #61

There is where you are wrong. Male and female Senators held to the accountability for the same VermontKevin Dec 2017 #69

:) What you're suggesting would be a grave insult Hortensis Dec 2017 #76

I would gravely insult no one. No one. No male, no female. For the same vote. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #141

:) Hortensis Dec 2017 #144

We know you hate Gillibrand, but who do you think? nt LexVegas Dec 2017 #48

I think you're trying a little too hard. That's what I think. BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #53

... LexVegas Dec 2017 #55

... BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #57

Trump of course. Who did you think? VermontKevin Dec 2017 #60

Gillibrand knocked Trump out of the 2020 race? BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #63

Well, who were you thinking? VermontKevin Dec 2017 #71

I'm thinking it's hilarious that you believe that. BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #74

Some different white man. nt LexVegas Dec 2017 #75

An author of a seminal work on gender. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #313

Very good article. This is what it is about and what the conversation will be. MikeydaDog Dec 2017 #17

Yeah Im done with it. ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #47

+1000 nt brer cat Dec 2017 #117

Excellent. nt fleabiscuit Dec 2017 #256

Uh snort Dec 2017 #52

She was basically called a whore by Trump today crazycatlady Dec 2017 #70

I'm glad a publication like Cosmo is covering politics crazycatlady Dec 2017 #54

I stood with Hillary, love Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren, I stand with Franken ebbie15644 Dec 2017 #59

Harris and Warren called for Franken to resign. LexVegas Dec 2017 #68

35 Democratic Senators and two Independent Senators, correct? Not, one. Nt MikeydaDog Dec 2017 #78

Yep. nt LexVegas Dec 2017 #79

A woman that has used her career speaking out against harassment/women's issues. Nt MikeydaDog Dec 2017 #80

I can easily stand with Franken and with open mind, see the truth about Gillibrand. MikeydaDog Dec 2017 #77

I just know who I'll vote for and who I won't and leave it at that ebbie15644 Dec 2017 #93

She is going to come out very well taking on Trump. Hoyt Dec 2017 #73

well Ms. Gillibrand bdamomma Dec 2017 #89

I have long felt we'd be much better off with a majority of women in Congress, and as Prez. Hoyt Dec 2017 #120

She won't. It is useless...we tried that in 16...he is in the white House. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #102

I think Senator Franken bdamomma Dec 2017 #190

You are right is was a right wing hit job. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #263

Good intelligent post JimBeard Dec 2017 #248

Great op JHan Dec 2017 #83

Yup ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #100

This sheshe2 Dec 2017 #111

I agree with you and feel the same. Nt MikeydaDog Dec 2017 #123

I don't automatically believe anyone with a vagina either nini Dec 2017 #85

Good Post JimBeard Dec 2017 #250

I'm furious with Gillibrand. Crunchy Frog Dec 2017 #86

Exactly. Owl Dec 2017 #178

Keep going Kirsten! Ive got your back and I want you to be president DemRage Dec 2017 #87

That kind of blind sided attack Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #163

+100000. #BelieveWomen means investigate womens accusations BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2017 #193

Are you calling those of who disagree with you misogynistic........... JimBeard Dec 2017 #251

The fact is, Al did this to HIMSELF DonCoquixote Dec 2017 #88

Wont make us any different than the TrumpCult, IMO. justiceischeap Dec 2017 #91

Then she should go after Claire McCaskill dflprincess Dec 2017 #254

In any other environment Franken likely survives. He gave his enemies a cudgel and they used it. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #92

I am a feminist and a woman...and I don't like how the Franken thing was handled...and Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #94

As a feminist and a man I don't fault women for men's conduct. I don't fault the accusers VermontKevin Dec 2017 #99

You have to face facts...this is a right wing hit job. The GOP will be back for more of our folks... Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #113

Yep this is not the first time Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2017 #126

And as usual.. kwalter66 Dec 2017 #131

Sorry, I don't like her. BlueStater Dec 2017 #96

this Owl Dec 2017 #172

When one Democrat takes a cheap shot at another Democrat they are fair game for criticism! FreeStateDemocrat Dec 2017 #115

Yes. As long as you critique her Senate peers equally. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #122

I actually am irritated with all of them...but you do not have to feel that all are equally culpable Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #281

If her end game was to throw Franken under the bus to get trump to resign Alea Dec 2017 #124

Maybe she is being annoyingly principled regardless of party lines. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #125

I hope so Alea Dec 2017 #145

See you think that would be a good thing...but in the age of Trump...we can't afford principles that Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #280

We can't afford principles "like that?" Please list the principles you feel the Democratic Party VermontKevin Dec 2017 #290

"regardless of party lines". We cannot afford to have our elected sit in judgement of each other bas Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #320

replying to you... Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #319

"If her end game was to throw Franken under the bus to get trump to resign .... LenaBaby61 Dec 2017 #168

Absolutely Alea Dec 2017 #186

Thank you, VermontKevin DesertRat Dec 2017 #130

Attacking the female instead of all, including males, crosses party lines. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #132

Meh...identity isnt everything and all criticism isnt identity-based BeyondGeography Dec 2017 #135

What is your identity that you've shed? VermontKevin Dec 2017 #158

Derp BeyondGeography Dec 2017 #166

So, if I accused you of being a white male, talking about identity, would I be wrong? VermontKevin Dec 2017 #170

No one deserves an undeserved skewering! ananda Dec 2017 #155

And when they come for Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #167

Funny thing. Although I never heard about her remarks attacking Clinton before mn9driver Dec 2017 #183

I don't think all 8 accusers are lying, either Progressive dog Dec 2017 #188

Or possibly Matt_R Dec 2017 #191

If this was a Male Senator who had led the witchhunt to force Franken to resign, the backlash would OnDoutside Dec 2017 #192

She made the wrong call. Whatever her reasons, thats what it looks like to me. TCJ70 Dec 2017 #194

Franken 110liberal Dec 2017 #202

Thank You JimBeard Dec 2017 #212

Yeah... no. XRubicon Dec 2017 #207

Thanks for your post JonLP24 Dec 2017 #208

Sexism and Misogyny Are Bipartisan TomCADem Dec 2017 #221

I'll pass ......I hope Hillary finds it in her Hart to run for the senate again ........ stonecutter357 Dec 2017 #230

You got it JimBeard Dec 2017 #252

Cosmopolitan magazine. Really? Lol. ms liberty Dec 2017 #239

Did Helen quite being a Brown Girlie? JimBeard Dec 2017 #253

Gillibrand is being "skewered" ... NanceGreggs Dec 2017 #257

+1000 great comment, Nance. OnDoutside Dec 2017 #258

Tell me how this comment isn't sexist: VermontKevin Dec 2017 #262

"Goody" is a "gender-specific word"?! Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #267

Arthur Miller wept. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #269

Keep mansplaining, dude. Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #271

So you've figured out your mistake? VermontKevin Dec 2017 #272

Keep mansplaining to Nance Greggs, if she can be bothered with you. Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #273

I didn't have to read Nance's mind. Like me, Nance obviously is familiar with VermontKevin Dec 2017 #274

Well, if I was so inclined, I could refer to you as "Goody Kevin". Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #275

Well, you could call me that. You could then explain why you would use a female term to refer VermontKevin Dec 2017 #286

Because you've cooked up an imaginary universe of readily clutched offense Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #300

"Slam Dunk" goodbye Kevin JimBeard Dec 2017 #303

It has a male counterpart. kcr Dec 2017 #284

I think you're right! David__77 Dec 2017 #285

Yes. It does have a male counterpart. That doesn't negate the use of the female term as an insult. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #287

But it isn't an insult because it's a female insult as you are trying to imply. kcr Dec 2017 #289

It is an insult to imply a woman is a Puritan because she objects to non-consensual touching. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #291

It could arguably be those things. But it isn't sexist. kcr Dec 2017 #292

So if Clarence Thomas said "Goody Anita Hill" in a description of her, VermontKevin Dec 2017 #293

I think in that context they would wonder why the hell he was calling her that? kcr Dec 2017 #294

Ms. Hill and her supporters were accused of being Neo-Puritans at the time. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #296

Ok. Very nice. But you asked what DUers would think if Thomas himself called her that. kcr Dec 2017 #297

Implying a woman is a prude because she objects to unwanted contact is sexist. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #298

You're the one making that implication, VermontKevin kcr Dec 2017 #299

The funny thing is that as I stated in the OP, I don't have to believe all the women. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #308

You have a funny way of expressing that. kcr Dec 2017 #310

Anita Hill expresses it best: VermontKevin Dec 2017 #311

Did you ever read about the Salem witch trials? Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #282

Yes. Thus my reference to Miller. Accusing a female of Puritanism whilst VermontKevin Dec 2017 #288

+1 ICAM lunamagica Dec 2017 #268

Love the post Nance...great allusion to the Salem witch trials... Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #283

Wait..."mass hysteria?" This gets better. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #295

Most certainly hysteria and in some cases revenge... Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #316

You have concluded #metoo is the baring of torches to burn the witch? I have heard everything, now. MikeydaDog Dec 2017 #302

Actually, it's the same old shit. I'm old enough to remember the Anita Hill hearings. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #312

Don't put words in my mouth...but the accusations against prominent journalist and Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #315

Yes, its the same as hysteria that led to lynch mobs. Actions caused by reaction to propaganda JimBeard Dec 2017 #304

Well, we all know who complained about the "high-tech lynch mob" against him. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #305

Just referring to actions, not specifics. JimBeard Dec 2017 #306

Yeah. I'm guessing you realized that invoking Clarence Thomas was in poor taste. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #309

Hysterical women assaulted and harassed are the racists, lynching? MikeydaDog Dec 2017 #314

Exactly. No one should be brought down by unproven accusations. And those that Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #317

Happy to kick this! mcar Dec 2017 #307

No dembotoz Dec 2017 #321