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5. Another divisive post. Edited to promote understanding of POV.

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 11:11 AM

Dec 2017

Last edited Wed Dec 13, 2017, 12:09 PM - Edit history (2)

I feel this post is divisive in that it promotes the idea that the Democratic Party does not appreciate Black voters. I don't believe this is true. Perhaps I misinterpreted the post. I don't know. But I do know that Perez realized that the election in Alabama depended on POC and reached out to them quietly and spent big money to do so which was smart. There is no doubt that it was those votes that won the day as was true in Virginia also. And for those who are using this post to imply I am some sort of a racist...shame on you.

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When Do We Start To Listen To Black Women Instead of Expecting Them To Clean Up Our Mess? [View all] VermontKevin Dec 2017 OP

That last tweet really nails it oberliner Dec 2017 #1

Truth n/t Tom Rinaldo Dec 2017 #4

Maybe the NYTimes can stop writing about Nazis I don't give a shit about VermontKevin Dec 2017 #6

More diversity would help oberliner Dec 2017 #11

I can't think of one article. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #14

AMEN!! rsong71 Dec 2017 #78

Black women have power right now and need to use it. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #2

We need to do this now! mcar Dec 2017 #3

Another divisive post. Edited to promote understanding of POV. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #5

Kindly tell us all how, exactly, this is "divisive." VermontKevin Dec 2017 #10

It's not divisive, it's giving credit to people rainlillie Dec 2017 #16

Well, it's divisive if you think that the choices Black women made are wrong. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #21

That is not what I said at all. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #37

The OP assumes some special wisdom comes with color. Hortensis Dec 2017 #50

What a great post...very eloquent. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #66

I would argue that the "special wisdom" is linked to past, present and future experiences. In retread Dec 2017 #83

You can enjoy that idea all you want, but I'm not buying the Hortensis Dec 2017 #84

All honor and glory go to brer cat Dec 2017 #25

We need to listen, think, think again, then ask if our opinion would have value. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #27

See updated post... Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #35

I have updated my post...and no one has ever accused me of being shy...but since you ask so nicely. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #38

No it's not mercuryblues Dec 2017 #12

Indeed Pacifist Patriot Dec 2017 #13

How is giving credit to the people who did the heavy lifting - The Polack MSgt Dec 2017 #22

I give them credit too...updated post with my POV. cheers. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #33

Thank you for the update. The Polack MSgt Dec 2017 #39

I should have been more explicit... and It turns out I was wrong on my interpretation of the Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #46

Wow. MrsCoffee Dec 2017 #24

This is the same poster who told me yesterday that Anita Hill was "ancient history." VermontKevin Dec 2017 #28

No doubt, a particular bias demands you perceive it as such... LanternWaste Dec 2017 #26

Oh please...your words are meaningless to me...I just think that the OP Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #29

The Democratic Party listens to Black women. It's why the 2016 candidate was who they chose. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #30

The 2016 candidate was who all Democrats chose. That being said, we won't win without POC. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #43

No, it was not who all Democrats chose. We had a primary, yes? We chose who Black women chose. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #45

We all chose a candidate together....and that is how it should be. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #67

Yes. A primary process where Black women voters prevailed happened. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #70

"the Democratic Party does not appreciate Black voters" LexVegas Dec 2017 #36

Oh, Lordy. This thread is not about you. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #40

Demsrule86, I follow your posts all the time and I'm with you 99% of the time, on this issue... brush Dec 2017 #41

Maybe black voters dont feel heard. Lonestarblue Dec 2017 #80

Yes. Agreed. Good post. brush Dec 2017 #81

They spoke and were heard ... congrats Fullduplexxx Dec 2017 #7

Amen nt Sunsky Dec 2017 #8

As soon as we're old enough to understand what they tell us, if we're smart! better Dec 2017 #9

I guess I would like to know who they thought should have been the D candidate? n2doc Dec 2017 #15

Well, Black women gave us HRC as the 2016 candidate. They were right. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #18

Who couldn't beat the worst candidate in history (and who underperformed Obama in many places). alarimer Dec 2017 #52

Are you talking about Bernie that way? The worst candidate in history? VermontKevin Dec 2017 #54

Your headline is very problematic. It's as if you haven't heard about the Russians, vote... brush Dec 2017 #82

This one right here. sheshe2 Dec 2017 #17

We repay them by listening, maybe? VermontKevin Dec 2017 #19

Hell yes! sheshe2 Dec 2017 #20

Yes. ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #23

Just black WOMEN? GaryCnf Dec 2017 #31

You really think gender issues don't motivate Black women? VermontKevin Dec 2017 #32

There is no evidence that gender issues played a big role standingtall Dec 2017 #42

Sorry, but have you actually asked any Black women? VermontKevin Dec 2017 #44

Been around African Americans all standingtall Dec 2017 #47

Oh. You've been "around" them? VermontKevin Dec 2017 #48

Yes I have infact standingtall Dec 2017 #49

Your anecdotal evidence is fascinating. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #53

I already cited an exit poll that standingtall Dec 2017 #56

I am sure your exit poll was broken down by race/gender and asked the VermontKevin Dec 2017 #59

actually no it is not standingtall Dec 2017 #64

Kindly explain your reasoning using actual math. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #65

I just did standingtall Dec 2017 #68

Gender stuff Sweet baby Jesus ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #61

Look at your own graphic GaryCnf Dec 2017 #55

Or, white women believe their race protects them from gender issues. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #57

Wow, now that is desperate GaryCnf Dec 2017 #60

I have no idea what question you are asking based on math. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #62

94% of Black women who voted voted for Hillary Clinton ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #63

Percentage means almost nothing GaryCnf Dec 2017 #71

With respect, you are missing my point ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #74

That isn't your fault GaryCnf Dec 2017 #75

And we agree. ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #76

You and who else? Iggo Dec 2017 #34

Hear, Hear! smirkymonkey Dec 2017 #51

I'm very proud of the black men and women for their wisdom and sorry to see that so many white ladjf Dec 2017 #58

Great to see the turnout in Alabama. jalan48 Dec 2017 #69

All votes of all races counted. lancelyons Dec 2017 #72

Maybe they aren't such a "minority" after all. I hope this will become a perpetual inspiration. Snotcicles Dec 2017 #73

Black Women Know What's What dlk Dec 2017 #77

I've been listening to them my whole life maxsolomon Dec 2017 #79

K&R Gothmog Dec 2017 #85