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JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
88. Islamaphobia? How do you explain the type of behavior
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 04:43 AM
Feb 2015

where two people killed a Sikh shortly after 9/11? I know a Sikh isn't Muslim but they thought he was a Muslim.

You are talking about roughly 2 billion of the world population while the followers of a controversial sect that didn't exist before the 18th century which has many different beliefs & rituals practiced by overall Islam. They even oppose the Hajj.

Ultraconservative, orthodox, right-wing sect & which uses selective fiqh texts in addition to how they interpret what they meant. In addition, the original Wahabbi cult took over Saudi Arabia but given their early divisions with the Muslim majority community (which still exist far more than you probably realize) -- fiqh texts are especially used when it comes to restrictions in how they apply to women.

They were very active in promoting propaganda to improve their image & Wahabbism really boomed during the petroleum export era & I could post much more & share much more information, especially on the propaganda angle -- you know how many books written since Al-Qaeda & The Taliban began that are in use in recruiting propaganda? It is the worst & epic case of oppressors using religion which new sects & splits have been formed in all the big 3 religions during cases of oppression. The "First Christians" sect should probably call themselves Jews.

and I'm sure this major Christian sect split in 1054 has nothing to do with the cold war


To finalize, I have read parts of the Quran. You have to understand, original Arabic translation issues are major problematic even among Islamic scholars & there is a lot referencing events that take place in context to the oppression going on which inspired the Quran (A lot of oppressors using faith) Muhammed himself struggled in non-violence opposition with those oppressors than came a lot of the self-defense stuff that is selective posted & out-of-context. Very first mention of "jihad" says don't fight until they attack you inside the mosques (which the Wahabbis destroy to prevent idolatry based on a warped mention of mere mention not to worship Muhammed images -- there was a lot of that going on by oppressors which explains what led to Eastern Orthodox Christianity in 1054)

Then many don't realize how the era of Islamic jurists and wide variety of fiqh texts and their need to finish the Quran has on current Islam & Wahabbis warped view of what is correct in addition to how they personally interpret it. (I could tell you some stories how some people understood what the bible was really saying but quoting the opinions of people from a very long time ago but Wahabbists and very selective in which opinions from Muhammed to cite & which ones not to cite. In any case, contrast the "Constitution of Medina" compared to who rules over Medina.

Media, please use this handy Deadly Event chart to determine how to cover this: Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #1
THIS ^ ^ lamp_shade Feb 2015 #7
Cute chart, but I'm not sure you really want to start citing all the facts. So I will. Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #38
Not sure how to fix these issues... SkyDaddy7 Feb 2015 #43
So now someone pointing to a disturbing trend in the US is exploitation? Violet_Crumble Feb 2015 #83
This thread is about murdred people in Copenhagen. Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #100
What's the Fred Sanders motto on how to handle the event? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2015 #51
You are misusing the term "motto". Not my chart. Just follow the simple pathways. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #52
No, I think it's pretty apt ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2015 #53
It is high class snark, yes? Better than the usual? My thanks for that. Not using truncated sentences is key Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #54
Islam is a bigoted, misogynistic belief system... MellowDem Feb 2015 #56
Substitute Christian for Muslim in your ridiculous screed and what do you get...a bigot.... Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #58
Post removed Post removed Feb 2015 #61
Truth hurts..the chart is right in and you know it....truth hurts but then it goes away. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #62
Please take the time to explain, Fred, LTX Feb 2015 #63
Your chart is a deflection... MellowDem Feb 2015 #79
+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2015 #74
Saved. Rhinodawg Feb 2015 #75
You mean like gays are killed in Uganda by Christians passiveporcupine Feb 2015 #76
I didnt know that Rick Warren.. Rhinodawg Feb 2015 #77
No he just encouraged the kill the gays bill in Uganda passiveporcupine Feb 2015 #81
I agree... MellowDem Feb 2015 #80
Islamaphobia? How do you explain the type of behavior JonLP24 Feb 2015 #88
That would be xenophobia or racism... MellowDem Feb 2015 #89
Too bad. One of my favorite cities in Europe DFW Feb 2015 #2
Thank god nobody was killed! 40 bullets! I hope the wounded recover rapidly riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #3
No need to guess 'if it is a Muslim', just use the handy Deadly Event Chart of covering Muslims. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #5
Oh ok. This shooting has NOTHING to do with the fatwa against Lars Vilks riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #8
What did you get? Not much, I get it. Please see chart. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #10
A Muslim family was attacked in a grocery store yesterday = headlines!!! riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #12
I'd be careful... Rhinodawg Feb 2015 #16
Why? They weren't denying Islamophobia exists... Violet_Crumble Feb 2015 #84
As you say, some 'fellow DU'er's, thankfully few, are no fellows of mine. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #18
Ignore is your friend nt riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #19
Those of you who never, ever speak against the daily hate crimes against LGBT people but who Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #41
Facts mean nothing to some here 7962 Feb 2015 #29
The FBI is yet another who disagree with some. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #39
Oh, they've released a report already? Wow, that was fast! 7962 Feb 2015 #42
You released your sarcastic report but you want the FBI to have an actual report ready instantly also? Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #44
Hey YOU said the FBI "disagreed", so that means they've made a decision 7962 Feb 2015 #55
You are not in the same league. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #57
I'm glad I'm not in YOUR league. Putin/Maduro/Muslim apologist isnt my style 7962 Feb 2015 #59
That would be another 3 swing strikeout....like I said. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #60
One of the nicest places I have visited in the world.... madamvlb Feb 2015 #4
I think that "free city" was highlighted on a travel show I saw. stillwaiting Feb 2015 #17
Yes, this is it! madamvlb Feb 2015 #21
This story will make the pro-gunners' day. Paladin Feb 2015 #6
Why would you say something so stupid? GGJohn Feb 2015 #9
Paladin wasn't saying it was a reason for a rational christx30 Feb 2015 #13
Paladin needs to clarify this himself, GGJohn Feb 2015 #14
Two things guaranteed to furnish gun enthusiasts with grim satisfaction: Paladin Feb 2015 #20
Anybody who's hung around DU for any length of time knows how you respond to these things. Lurks Often Feb 2015 #22
Oh, you mean not agreeing with you on something. Paladin Feb 2015 #33
I'd be embarrassed if I agreed with you Lurks Often Feb 2015 #34
"Some if us thinks" I'm upset? Not on this thread, amigo..... (nt) Paladin Feb 2015 #35
True. Congratulations on your side being so far ahead with unabated slaughter DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #68
I have no patience for the hypocrisy and dishonesty of gun control extremists Lurks Often Feb 2015 #69
That's a weak effort, even by your standards. (nt) Paladin Feb 2015 #71
I don't submit myself to judgment by the likes of you. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #73
Doubling down on your hypocrisy and lies I see Lurks Often Feb 2015 #78
Tiresome process. Go ahead and point out my lies. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #82
Let's review the number of murders since 1960 Lurks Often Feb 2015 #87
Not sure what you counted marym625 Mar 2015 #90
I counted homicides and suicides by firearm Lurks Often Mar 2015 #94
seriously? marym625 Mar 2015 #96
Most deaths are preventable Lurks Often Mar 2015 #97
Just curious marym625 Mar 2015 #98
Not in vain. I made my point marym625 Mar 2015 #99
better yet marym625 Mar 2015 #91
Now let's review the top causes of death by suicide marym625 Mar 2015 #92
Excellent numbers. This one did a hit-and-run after accusing me of lying. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #93
Thanks marym625 Mar 2015 #95
Tom Tomorrow put this in a cartoon Pooka Fey Feb 2015 #70
Tom Tomorrow very rarely fails to satisfy. Thanks form posting. (nt) Paladin Feb 2015 #72
He thinks all gun owners are irrational nuts. hack89 Feb 2015 #37
That is just a sick statement Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #30
I'm against these attacks. Rhinodawg Feb 2015 #11
Actually, we don't know why it happened TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2015 #23
Well..."some people" seem to have a problem with freedoms Rhinodawg Feb 2015 #24
All people groups, ethnicities, religions, etc. TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2015 #25
Funny word to use..."adaptation". Rhinodawg Feb 2015 #27
Actually if people from other countries have an issue with free speech, then they should not still_one Feb 2015 #28
Brilliant!! And this should be shouted from the mountaintops!!!!!!!!! 7962 Feb 2015 #31
I agree with him still_one Feb 2015 #32
Very well said. eom. GGJohn Feb 2015 #49
A Crusade against free speech? seveneyes Feb 2015 #15
I have, sadly, seen it. christx30 Feb 2015 #45
Yep. More than a few DUers said that. riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #46
+1 Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #67
CNN reporting multiple gunmen; 3 police injured brooklynite Feb 2015 #26
Update: CNN reported suspects made getaway; car found near subway station brooklynite Feb 2015 #36
just sayin father founding Feb 2015 #40
Shots fired outside Copenhagen synagogue: report Bosonic Feb 2015 #47
Danish Police say one person has been shot in the head at a synagogue in central Copenhagen Bosonic Feb 2015 #48
Where did the shooter get an AUTOMATIC weapon? happyslug Feb 2015 #50
Criminals dont have trouble getting weapons. Look at the Paris attacks; same thing 7962 Feb 2015 #65
Border control in Europe has been mostly privatized Pooka Fey Feb 2015 #66
Very sad and less than 6 weeks after the Charlie Hebdo shooting Pooka Fey Feb 2015 #64
It was what popped in my head. Behind the Aegis Feb 2015 #85
An ill wind that blows nobody good Pooka Fey Feb 2015 #86
"Free speech" or hate speech? mwrguy Jun 2015 #101
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