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In reply to the discussion: Russia delivers nuclear warning to Denmark [View all]jeff47
(26,549 posts)67. No, you only understand strawmen.
And stupid ones at that.
Denmark was one of the founding countries of NATO. You don't expand into a country that is already a member of the group.
Russia is supposedly upset about NATO expanding to countries on or near its borders. That expansion is happening due to what Russia has done to those countries in the past (conquered them), and what they've been doing recently to their neighbors (Georgia and Ukraine).
Anyway, my post was about strategy. Was the expansion of NATO good strategy?
No, your post was a pile of stupid, vomited forth in an attempt to excuse or minimize Russia's actions. 'Cause the "expansion of NATO" into Denmark was decided in 1949 when NATO was founded.
If we retain a close alliance with Poland and Estonia, but our alliance with Germany and France (and Denmark) is no longer reliable, then we are in a weaker position.
They're all NATO countries. An attack on the US is an attack on France and Germany. They are all well aware that Russia's nuclear weapons will be used against them in an attack.
Making an open threat is a new low for Russia. Which you want to excuse.
So put down your righteous indignation and put on your thinking cap: how can we prevent Russia from outflanking us by this strategy?
You think Denmark is expanding NATO and you want to talk about "thinking caps"?
How 'bout we release this is an empty threat from a desperate oligarch instead of doing whatever Putin asks?
After all, those "weakened" French and Germans VOTED TO ADMIT Estonia and the other Eastern European countries. Boy, that sure shows how they don't want to expand NATO!!
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Last I checked Russia has enough nukes to destroy civilization, even without an American response.
Threedifferentones
Mar 2015
#76
Putin's a * *.. got a hide once for cussing out poor putin.. so I will leave it at that..
Cha
Mar 2015
#7
It's just a statement of fact. The UK, French, USA and China have nuke subs ready to play, too.
freshwest
Mar 2015
#9
Russian ambassador threatens Denmark with naval nuclear attack if it joins missile shield
trueblue2007
Mar 2015
#12
Putin thinks "global warming" will be the glowing crust of the Earth, post-strike.
riqster
Mar 2015
#16
Who could blame some of the Nordic countries for wanting protection from Putin
davidpdx
Mar 2015
#18
Lets hear it from the Putin lovers. This is all Denmarks fault for not fearing Dear Leader.
7962
Mar 2015
#24
Of course. But saying that outright doesn't play into Putin's propaganda. nt
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Mar 2015
#32
Because a NATO vs Russia nuclear war wouldn't affect them if they weren't in NATO??!
jeff47
Mar 2015
#38
No, it is not a threat you can survive. You die a lingering death instead of instant vaporization.
jeff47
Mar 2015
#56
So -- we agree -- my opinions about nuclear missiles are as reliable as yours are.
rogerashton
Mar 2015
#65
the threat to Germany, et al isn't Russian troops parading through Berlin, it's
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#43
Robert Parry will explain how it was actually Ukrainian Nazis who made this threat nt
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#29
"if these missiles also could hit the Danish warships, when they were equipped with the system."
EX500rider
Mar 2015
#77
So, the spin from Team Putin is that Russia is threatening to nuke Denmark
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#40
Moscow was certainly paranoid regarding the Crimea, Georgia and Ukraine...
LanternWaste
Mar 2015
#55
What's strange is the massive media assault regarding "ISIS," which has nothing but swords and
The Stranger
Mar 2015
#57
the bigger problem for Putin is that Russia is no longer the other superpower.
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#64
It will be a very, very, very long time before BRICS outweighs North America, Europe, Japan and
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#73
Who thinks that Russia will be a more dominant economy than the EU and North America?
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#79