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28. Referring to "a 'nothing to see here' approach" is inaccurate and unfair.

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 05:04 PM

Jun 2015

The linked article says, "Roof's racist motives have the Charleston Police Department and the FBI investigating the massacre as a hate crime."

People are free to argue that "terrorism" carries some oomph that "hate crime" doesn't. Nevertheless, it's absolutely clear that there's a huge gap between, on the one hand, investigating it as a hate crime, and, on the other hand, an approach of "nothing to see here."

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FBI director: Charleston shooting not an act of terrorism [View all] LovingA2andMI Jun 2015 OP

Oh? So Roof WASN'T trying to 'take his country back' from the blacks 'taking over', eh? blm Jun 2015 #1

Agreed. appal_jack Jun 2015 #97

What a crock! PearliePoo2 Jun 2015 #2

Fucking idiot. Autumn Jun 2015 #3

Heh MFrohike Jun 2015 #4

Referring to "a 'nothing to see here' approach" is inaccurate and unfair. Jim Lane Jun 2015 #28

It's barely hyperbole MFrohike Jun 2015 #55

+1000% mazzarro Jun 2015 #72

Righteous rant. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2015 #78

I agree with much of your rant, so my comment also isn't directed at you personally. Jim Lane Jun 2015 #83

Agreed MFrohike Jun 2015 #85

revision of history begins quickly. So an act that inflicts terror on particular groups of people NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #5

Perhap FBI won't call it that officially because they fear how close RW is to fulfilling blm Jun 2015 #9

So we placate? salib Jun 2015 #27

Not my feeling, at all. Law enforcement IS keenly aware of the seriousness blm Jun 2015 #41

They are called terrorists and it is called terrorism. salib Jun 2015 #46

I know. I am sure Comey knows. He has to have read the HS report. blm Jun 2015 #52

Then it is a horrendously bad move. salib Jun 2015 #53

I share that view - no doubt about it blm Jun 2015 #60

Also... catnhatnh Jun 2015 #58

Using this definition he is a domestic terrorist. mia Jun 2015 #63

How the hell is trying to start a race war NOT a political act? CanonRay Jun 2015 #6

"Terrorism" is a meaningless propaganda term. See this article, which I posted on another thread: kath Jun 2015 #7

thanks riversedge Jun 2015 #42

Trying to start a Civil War, which Roof said he was trying to do, IS a political act alboe Jun 2015 #8

Propaganda of the deed. Adsos Letter Jun 2015 #50

I'll take the hate crime, thank you very much n/t secondwind Jun 2015 #10

Right. Beauregard Jun 2015 #12

So no one who is a POC should heaven05 Jun 2015 #20

Sorry, I don't understand your post. Beauregard Jun 2015 #24

POC = "persons of color" jmowreader Jun 2015 #45

I sure you don't heaven05 Jun 2015 #82

WRONG. Terrorism is the use of violence in service to a politcal end. scarletwoman Jun 2015 #21

Not necessarily. Beauregard Jun 2015 #23

And others seek to impose their definition. Igel Jun 2015 #67

Agree 100%. 840high Jun 2015 #57

Which will mean what? former9thward Jun 2015 #105

WTF?!? So, wanting to "start a race war" ISN'T political?!? scarletwoman Jun 2015 #11

translation: Locrian Jun 2015 #13

Shorter translation: Only black people got killed. nt scarletwoman Jun 2015 #16

Straight to the Point... LovingA2andMI Jun 2015 #18

Oh, for fuck's sake! Solly Mack Jun 2015 #14

If it "boggles your mind," it is high time it was boggled. Beauregard Jun 2015 #25

LMAO Solly Mack Jun 2015 #38

Ummm... What is Terrorism..... LovingA2andMI Jun 2015 #15

It's got to be intended to inspire fear. Beauregard Jun 2015 #26

Are you kidding? salib Jun 2015 #29

Sez you. Beauregard Jun 2015 #31

I did not sneak fear in. salib Jun 2015 #39

"Death" is what you get from war. Igel Jun 2015 #68

That's some analogy of FDR, unique from anything I've ever seen. The Big Three- Hitler, Stalin & FDR appalachiablue Jun 2015 #98

don't waste your time heaven05 Jun 2015 #84

So you don't think lots of black people are not scared of getting shot in church? Why Nay Jun 2015 #102

Can you, remove yourself from this thread..... LovingA2andMI Jun 2015 #33

Why don't you just put me on ignore? Beauregard Jun 2015 #35

He said they (the blacks) were TAKING OVER TexasBushwhacker Jun 2015 #49

I have had a feeling for some time that we will not make the necessary Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #17

And for that to happen we need to first change owners. -none Jun 2015 #104

This truely explains the lack of action taken by the FBI Wellstone ruled Jun 2015 #19

Uh, Obama appointed him salib Jun 2015 #32

Yep..... LovingA2andMI Jun 2015 #36

There is a statement that holds some truth. Wellstone ruled Jun 2015 #40

but flaming underwear is. mopinko Jun 2015 #22

" the lack of political motivation for his actions?" Huh? nt raccoon Jun 2015 #30

Well, after all the Administration needs thos RepublicanTPA votes, now. salib Jun 2015 #34

YEP.... LovingA2andMI Jun 2015 #37

Does this shithead serve at the pleasure of the President? 47of74 Jun 2015 #43

So it's not terrorism when only black people are terrorized... AZ Progressive Jun 2015 #44

Figures.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #47

I thought his name was familiar. Igel Jun 2015 #69

Yeah,...so much for "Merry Fitzmas". Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #71

According to James Comey, sending out a press release is terrorism. OnyxCollie Jun 2015 #91

Yeah,...but that was against WHITE PEOPLE. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #92

As the old adage goes, Follow The Money. nt OnyxCollie Jun 2015 #94

BushCo locked her up just to add to their list of convictions.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #95

Didn't Obama appoint him? former9thward Jun 2015 #106

Do you believe that means he's a Liberal? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #108

I don't know what he is. former9thward Jun 2015 #111

Yup. No doubt as part of Obama's "reaching out". Remember the "Team of Rivals"? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #112

I like to think he thought the guy was best qualified person that he could get. former9thward Jun 2015 #113

Every Bush appointee should have been purged..... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #114

Well if he isn't PatrynXX Jun 2015 #48

Bullshit. White privilege at work, yet again. (nt) Paladin Jun 2015 #51

Jesus H. Christ. How could he think we're all that stupid? Judi Lynn Jun 2015 #54

Assassinating a state senator just ain't what it used to be, I guess. nt valerief Jun 2015 #56

Took the words right out of my mouth. Once more, assassinating a U.S. Senator is not an act nc4bo Jun 2015 #74

Tell that to blacks in the south whenever they assemble to worship. What a fucking asshole he is. GoneFishin Jun 2015 #59

comey, did you even bother to read his manifesto, as the rest of us did? niyad Jun 2015 #61

why we must call dylann roof a terrorist: niyad Jun 2015 #62

Oh for fuck's sake... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #64

Comey lacks a certain understanding of what it means to be black in America...oh,that's because he's FailureToCommunicate Jun 2015 #65

Fuck that. He said he wanted to start a civil war....... Bonhomme Richard Jun 2015 #66

He's not an arab or an environmentalist ergo he is not a terrorist. Monk06 Jun 2015 #70

It strikes fear in my heart sorefeet Jun 2015 #73

To me this is not terrorism TheFarseer Jun 2015 #75

Because you're not black. GeorgeGist Jun 2015 #88

... and he killed a state senator. That was no accident. nt ladjf Jun 2015 #76

How different is he from McVey? Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2015 #77

It's clearly both a hate crime and terrorism. truthisfreedom Jun 2015 #79

Chris Hayes also questioning Comey's misdefinition Triana Jun 2015 #80

He specifically told his friends, the cops AND the victims that he was trying to start a race war rocktivity Jun 2015 #81

There is beginning to Smell.... LovingA2andMI Jun 2015 #86

I'd be willing to bet that dgibby Jun 2015 #87

Mr. Comey is no longer part of the reality-based community. leveymg Jun 2015 #89

I guess there is a big disconnect, what is 'murdering people in an attempt to incite a civil war'? ck4829 Jun 2015 #90

OFFS. There's even a better way to reach that wrong conclusion Recursion Jun 2015 #93

Why is the label so important? treestar Jun 2015 #96

Exactly. kath Jun 2015 #100

Are drone attacks terrorism? kath Jun 2015 #99

By the Govt.'s narrow definition, it might not be. hardtravelin Jun 2015 #101

But of Course... n2doc Jun 2015 #103

+1 (sadly) (n/t) Nihil Jun 2015 #109

Here's the POLITICAL Manifesto from Roof...HOW IS THAT NOT TERRORISM? Rafale Jun 2015 #107

The bombing of Hiroshima & Nagasaki were acts of terrorism. Beauregard Jun 2015 #110

Update: They've blinked rocktivity Jun 2015 #115