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greiner3

(5,214 posts)
33. I would direct you;
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 01:41 PM
Dec 2011

To fairewinds.com and in particular Arnie Gunderson's videos. He is about the premier expert in nuclear plants; in the world. He disagrees with your premise, conclusion and alternatives. He has put out almost a weekly update on the disaster at Fukishima. He is saying that one of the destroyed reactors has NEARLY done the unthinkable; CHINA SYNDROME. If you have not heard of this term, it was made famous in the Jane Fonda/Jack Lemmon movie about a nuclear plant that NEARLY had its core melt down and begin its way to, China. This is a euphemism. Of course it would not go further than the Mantle. This begins about 30 miles deep. However, there are papers that say the pressure at this point in the Earth's interior is so great that molten magma would shoot up through the resultant hole in the ground. I think you have heard of volcanoes. Anyway, the reactors have not had a complete meltdown yet. However, the radiation clouds are known to have drifted over the Continental US.

Also check out Dr. Michio Kaku (website URL http://mkaku.org/). He is also on vast amounts of YouTube videos where he gives EXPERT insight into the problems of Fukishima. His EXPERT analysis shows that radiation HAS leaked into the ground water in massive amounts and that this in turn has emptied into the Pacific.

From a Wiki article; "Ringed seals have a circumpolar distribution from approximately 35°N to the North Pole, occurring in all seas of the Arctic Ocean. In the North Pacific, they are found in the southern Bering Sea and range as far south as the Seas of Okhotsk and Japan. Throughout their range, ringed seals have an affinity for ice-covered waters and are well adapted to occupying seasonal and permanent ice. They tend to prefer large floes (i.e., > 48 m in diameter) and are often found in the interior ice pack where the sea ice coverage is greater than 90%. They remain in contact with ice most of the year and pup on the ice in late winter-early spring.[7]"

And; "Ringed seals eat a wide variety of small prey that consists of 72 species of fish and invertebrates. Feeding is usually a solitary behavior and their prey of choice includes mysids, shrimp, arctic cod, and herring. While feeding, ringed seals dive to depths of 35 to 150 ft (10–45 m).[4] In the summer ringed seals feed along edge of the sea-ice for polar cod. In shallow water they feed on smaller cod. Ringed seals may also eat herring, smelt, whitefish, sculpin, perch, and crustaceans."

&feature=related is a URL from NASA. It shows the world's ocean currents. A large northern Pacific cold water current is shown flowing from the Japanese islands flowing DIRECTLY to the southern coast of Alaska. It then turns north along the Alaskan coast and goes into the Arctic Ocean.
There is one more thing I think I need to mention; Walruses are also turning up dead from pretty much the same ailments. I think you have heard of a food chain. This is where some animals eat plants and these in turn are eaten by smallish predators who in turn are eaten by larger predators until you come to the 'lion in the ecosystem,' in this case the walruses who's main diet, in certain times of the year anyway, is ring seals.

In this ecosystem first the plankton becomes radiated which is eaten by 'vegetarian' fish. Seals eat at least 1 species of fish (please correct me if I am wrong. I can not find info on this right now.). The seals are eating the fish which have gobbled up the plankton and in turn may be getting sick from the accumulated radiation particles. Some reports say that there has not been much radiation reported from the Alaskan waters. However, as I noted above, the seals and fishes have HUGE territories they travel.

I think your post may not have been well thought out before you posted it. Maybe you could go back and edit it with a more scientific point of view. After all, this is DU and WE do not 'muddy the water' with mis truths and pseudo science.

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How sad Politicalboi Dec 2011 #1
Very doubtful. TheWraith Dec 2011 #8
wow you're certainly very knowledgeable for having never even seen one of the seals wordpix Dec 2011 #9
Amazing, isn't it? Purports to know all there is to know sans most pertinent facts. Doremus Dec 2011 #12
Especially when our government has been LYING... CoffeeCat Dec 2011 #44
Not quite. That milk warning was only for youngsters and expectant mothers, not "all Europeans". uppityperson Dec 2011 #46
I understand what you are saying... CoffeeCat Dec 2011 #50
It's called understanding science. TheWraith Dec 2011 #15
and you also know the migration habits of these seals? You're an expert on where they were before wordpix Dec 2011 #19
So minor was the release of radioactive materials that Obama ordered the EPA to cease monitoring. Citizen Worker Dec 2011 #35
Yes, no one talks about this any more... CoffeeCat Dec 2011 #45
Yes....interesting, no? PearliePoo2 Dec 2011 #51
O has done plenty wrong including wanting taxpayers to guarantee loans for new nukes@ $36 billion wordpix Dec 2011 #49
when you understand science, you know you have to investigate a question, not jump to conclusions wordpix Dec 2011 #54
This same exact story broke within days of Fukushima, regarding a different species on the west coas AtheistCrusader Dec 2011 #31
That isn't the way it happened kristopher Dec 2011 #36
They were littoral fish. AtheistCrusader Dec 2011 #37
Yes, please do so. kristopher Dec 2011 #47
I take that back. AtheistCrusader Dec 2011 #48
go to enenews.com uncleroy Dec 2011 #10
read "Nuclear Roulette: The Case Against a Nuclear Renaissance" & maybe wordpix Dec 2011 #13
Enenews isn't an energy news website. It's a pseudoscience website. TheWraith Dec 2011 #16
All links to mainstream news reports... strange you can't deal with facts eom amerfayed Dec 2011 #23
By "mainstream" do you mean "corporate mainstream", or "mainstream outside the US corporate sphere"? saras Dec 2011 #43
I am not personally attacking you, dotymed Dec 2011 #25
K&R... stonecutter357 Dec 2011 #27
I would direct you; greiner3 Dec 2011 #33
The plant has been shut down for months?? PearliePoo2 Dec 2011 #34
mistake you're making is assuming "ambient" radiation levels preclude hot spots of higher levels` CreekDog Dec 2011 #42
Let us know when the results come in. Trillo Dec 2011 #2
sound like radiation poisoning to me FirstLight Dec 2011 #3
Eat fish at your peril! Hawkowl Dec 2011 #4
Unfortunately, I gave up seafood dotymed Dec 2011 #26
NPR, Talk of the Nation today, reports US agency is now approving a newly engineered nuc. plant. jerseyjack Dec 2011 #5
"It's not only safe, it's cheap, too" as long as taxpayers guarantee construction loans, build waste wordpix Dec 2011 #11
Poor things. lonestarnot Dec 2011 #6
It's horrible. freshwest Dec 2011 #7
the entire planet is dying wordpix Dec 2011 #14
HOPI Prophecies- akin to SO many other indigenous peoples prophecies. BeHereNow Dec 2011 #20
nice video, thanks wordpix Dec 2011 #29
+1 zeemike Dec 2011 #40
There are other segments from the Elders on Youtube BeHereNow Dec 2011 #53
Please repost when the results come back. Thanks IDemo! n/t SunSeeker Dec 2011 #17
Yes. Please post. This makes me cry. glinda Dec 2011 #18
K&R DeSwiss Dec 2011 #21
Could be burrowowl Dec 2011 #22
ah, yes, the NRC, that bastion of foxes guarding the nuclear henhouse wordpix Dec 2011 #28
Ask Dr. Kelley --WTF is Going On with these seals!!! solarman350 Dec 2011 #24
as i understand it, uncleroy Dec 2011 #30
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2011 #32
Could Fukushima plant be sickening, killing ringed seals in Alaska? Judi Lynn Dec 2011 #38
That really sucks... joeybee12 Dec 2011 #39
Children, too, as with war. closeupready Dec 2011 #41
Glad to see at least some sort of testing for Fukushima radiation over here. Overseas Dec 2011 #52
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