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6. From the article...

Fri Jul 31, 2015, 03:19 PM

Jul 2015

And in all fairness, neither the Atlantic nor the Wall Street Journal claims there is a direct link between helping UBS as Secretary of State on the one hand and the sudden increased generosity of UBS toward the Clintons on the other. And no one is suggesting that anything illegal took place or that there was any kind of quid pro quo deal. I'm not suggesting that, either.
In fact, it is most likely just one more example of the very kind of perfectly legal soft corruption that is strangling our democracy. Right after the big banks bankrupted the global economy, Secretary Clinton was going out of her way to help out the big banks. It's no wonder the IRS and the AG were unable to prosecute the masterminds of this catastrophe given all their friends in high places.

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Breaking: Clintons Got Millions from Swiss Bank Sec Clinton Shielded from IRS [View all] Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 OP

Kicketty Kickin' Faux pas Jul 2015 #1

...& the shit is stickin'. k&r, nt appal_jack Jul 2015 #17

LOL and Faux pas Jul 2015 #30

ditto, though there will be those who will find out that its the NY Times fault. roguevalley Jul 2015 #128

Quelle surprise Roland99 Jul 2015 #2

Complicated? How about corrupt quid pro quo? peacebird Jul 2015 #3

Pos hoc ergo propter hoc. Rolf21 Jul 2015 #113

True, but it looks really bad and stinks to high heaven. peacebird Jul 2015 #137

A sad comparison. Obviously a rooster cannot make the sun rise. A Clinton quid pro quo? jonno99 Jul 2015 #140

Like if a known burgler is caught coming out of a bank with his pockets buldging with money, rhett o rick Jul 2015 #158

That is sexist. AngryAmish Jul 2015 #152

Look over there... a pretty bird. n/t A Simple Game Jul 2015 #4

Shocking! fbc Jul 2015 #5

From the article... peacebird Jul 2015 #6

there isn't a smoldering email but a few of us get quid pro quo roguevalley Jul 2015 #130

..! You are reasoned in your view..but, it still smells...as you carefully point out KoKo Jul 2015 #164

I would note that although this is written up as Clinton helping a 'bank', the real 'winners' here Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #10

That's a very good question fbc Jul 2015 #13

That would be a very interesting list of names n/t arcane1 Jul 2015 #18

"protected"? Well in the oligarchy club you have to be worth more than your average millionaire... L0oniX Jul 2015 #31

See my post #82 for my speculation on the accounts released. n/t OnlinePoker Jul 2015 #84

I believe James Carville is on the UBS board, maybe some other Clinton people. Calling Octafish. appalachiablue Jul 2015 #168

A Good Question....... KoKo Jul 2015 #169

Yes, "Pay To Play" No Doubt... I Have Never Been A Hillary ChiciB1 Jul 2015 #12

It takes big money to get elected President. Rolf21 Jul 2015 #105

"when a woman does it, then some people get upset"? Really? arcane1 Jul 2015 #111

play the guys game. not for my vote. bernie isn't and he has mine. I'm a femaile too and I don't roguevalley Jul 2015 #132

precisely! n/t wildbilln864 Jul 2015 #162

Not surprising. Very sad, kr PufPuf23 Jul 2015 #7

Exhausting people can be so exhausting BeyondGeography Jul 2015 #8

K&R No wonder she was planning a coronation. jwirr Jul 2015 #9

Why I am not surprised at all eh???? mylye2222 Jul 2015 #11

Great, here comes a half-dozen more "Made-up reasons why Sanders sucks" threads n/t arcane1 Jul 2015 #14

LOL, yup. closeupready Jul 2015 #90

k&r nt Live and Learn Jul 2015 #15

at least she did something heaven05 Jul 2015 #16

That's the "beauty" of it BeyondGeography Jul 2015 #32

like I said heaven05 Jul 2015 #36

Can you identify the "inner-city loan program"? Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #74

go find out for yourself heaven05 Jul 2015 #120

Classic arcane1 Jul 2015 #124

You don't get it. passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #167

The Bernie supporters don't get it because they believe cosmicone Jul 2015 #176

here is the press release questionseverything Jul 2015 #135

How much did she give to POC? passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #100

Check the Foundation's website, you'll see what they spend their money on. George II Jul 2015 #150

How about you check out their foundation site passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #156

No thanks, I'm not the one questioning their foundation. George II Jul 2015 #165

No, you are the one who isn't willing to support your own candidate passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #166

propping up multi million dollar businesses questionseverything Jul 2015 #103

Here is just a short list of some of Bernie's recent Senate votes passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #117

A bird sat on a branch and the whole tree fell down cosmicone Jul 2015 #19

Nobody is criticizing how the foundation spent its money. You're making that up n/t arcane1 Jul 2015 #22

You be sure to let us all know when Mother Teresa runs for POTUS. L0oniX Jul 2015 #23

What difference does it make? cosmicone Jul 2015 #29

This isn't about the foundation, it's about the favors that got the donations arcane1 Jul 2015 #38

What favors? cosmicone Jul 2015 #53

More strawmen n/t arcane1 Jul 2015 #63

You, Sir are the Field Marshall of the Srawman Army. cosmicone Jul 2015 #65

I thought that was obvious arcane1 Jul 2015 #93

the article which appeared in the Wall Street Journal is reporting shadows. You can ask questions Bill USA Jul 2015 #144

That's all you got? Elmer S. E. Dump Jul 2015 #67

He's not big on substance, typically. closeupready Jul 2015 #94

On my... whathehell Jul 2015 #155

If Bernie wins, that is what will be coming out of every RWingers cosmicone Jul 2015 #179

She's deceased, Darb Jul 2015 #34

She's deceased??? L0oniX Jul 2015 #37

Yeah, you got it, so find another ridiculously hysterical point to make. Darb Jul 2015 #58

It is more hysterically ridiculous cosmicone Jul 2015 #85

You are right, I transposed the words. I like yours better. Darb Jul 2015 #89

I don't know why I bother postatomic Jul 2015 #39

ahhh heaven05 Jul 2015 #42

Nothing is more hilarious than people praising the Clinton campaign for its "diversity." Are we Chakab Jul 2015 #48

Complete nonsense. Elmer S. E. Dump Jul 2015 #71

But but but....it's a chance to bash Hillary! Its de rigueur. George II Jul 2015 #52

Don't knock down the "revolution" cosmicone Jul 2015 #59

+100000000000000. ^THIS^ misterhighwasted Jul 2015 #80

$1.5 mil to Bill? ish of the hammer Jul 2015 #96

He donates his speaking fees to his foundation n/t cosmicone Jul 2015 #115

Oh come on, don't be logical here, PLEASE!!! George II Jul 2015 #129

Source please. Scuba Jul 2015 #136

Here cosmicone Jul 2015 #141

That article does not substantiate your claim that Bill gave all his speaking fees to the foundation Scuba Jul 2015 #146

He gave 72 speeches and gave $16 million to the foundation cosmicone Jul 2015 #148

PROVE IT! Show use his W-2s, W-4s, and throw in his birth certificate, please! George II Jul 2015 #154

Plus his mother's maiden name and ATM PIN cosmicone Jul 2015 #170

Cleanup in aisle LBN ...and K & R L0oniX Jul 2015 #20

From the article... R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #21

There's a very good point there. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #25

Among the rich, to keep club membership the rule is that no quid pro quo is to never be exposed. L0oniX Jul 2015 #26

Prove it. Darb Jul 2015 #40

Prove it ain't. Can't believe people are so trusting of the rich after they fucked us hard in 2008. L0oniX Jul 2015 #45

Prove a negative? Good one. Darb Jul 2015 #64

Just the suspicion is enough to warrant investigation. 7962 Jul 2015 #46

No, it doesn't. Darb Jul 2015 #66

You must not have read my whole post. 7962 Jul 2015 #79

Read it three times now. Darb Jul 2015 #87

Resulting in serioust heartbern George II Jul 2015 #159

+1000000 Elmer S. E. Dump Jul 2015 #72

Don't view UBS deal in a vacuum Justice Jul 2015 #24

The GOP got nothing on her, nothing at all. zeemike Jul 2015 #27

Shhhh! We need to keep this stuff quiet!!! Otherwise, the GOP might overhear us!!! n/t RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #51

The GOP is the one feeding you. Darb Jul 2015 #70

Makes me wonder who was #4451 on the list. rateyes Jul 2015 #28

I'd like to hear Hillary's response to this. hamsterjill Jul 2015 #33

Don't worry. She'll be happy to answer... RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #54

Oh look. The media is trying to gin up another phony scandal about Hillary. 6000eliot Jul 2015 #35

Forget Benghazi, this might be the real deal. nt silvershadow Jul 2015 #41

"Breaking"? Just the same story we've BEEN hearing but with a different company/country. nt 7962 Jul 2015 #43

Yeah...she's the one who's going after the big banks d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #44

Story seems to skip over a critical piece here: jberryhill Jul 2015 #47

You who? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #50

. jberryhill Jul 2015 #73

"And how many account ID's would the IRS have gotten..... George II Jul 2015 #160

As a Democrat, as a Bernie supporter, I've got to say jomin41 Jul 2015 #49

+1 shireen Jul 2015 #57

We have two great candidates in Sanders and O'Malley, yes. Maedhros Jul 2015 #92

Another "bad optics" revelation for the Hillary campaign peequod Jul 2015 #55

Doing well by doing good pscot Jul 2015 #56

Rumours and innuendos and speculation amounting to nothing...again...The Daily Bore. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #60

If you're going to throw out a smear piece azureblue Jul 2015 #61

As I replied to jberryhill, none of that is MY text. It's all from the linked DailyKos piece. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #68

"Some people say..." jberryhill Jul 2015 #76

I support your research........................ turbinetree Jul 2015 #102

If you don't have anything then use the Rush doctrine. Throw out some names to get the attention Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #77

foundation has it's own problems, how much does staff get paid again? snooper2 Jul 2015 #99

. AtomicKitten Jul 2015 #62

Thank Dog, HRC has a "D" next to her name, jomin41 Jul 2015 #69

Ken Starr Turbineguy Jul 2015 #75

That's it! Bernie is Prez :) Helen Borg Jul 2015 #78

The Rabid Right Wing hasn't even started to burnout bernies flame. Sanders will never be Pres. misterhighwasted Jul 2015 #83

The 'Rabid Right Wing' is nothing at all. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #107

Whatever. He's an asset to them at the moment. But you really think the misterhighwasted Jul 2015 #121

W0W, yet more scandals to drag ALL democrats down! Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #81

Were the 4450 accounts that UBS gave part of that data breach? OnlinePoker Jul 2015 #82

We'll read that part in the fine print on the back page. misterhighwasted Jul 2015 #88

So Hillary is complicit in tax evasion of 45,000 billionaires and millionaires. WDIM Jul 2015 #86

Mrs. Clinton needs that money: RoccoR5955 Jul 2015 #91

Her supporters won't care. But those who don't find her highly likable... WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2015 #133

replace CLINTON with BUSH and you get opposite reactions from supporters LOL- snooper2 Jul 2015 #95

No Bush, No Clinton, indeed. bigwillq Jul 2015 #108

There is no evidence question everything Jul 2015 #97

Her constant critics will say Hillary "destroyed" the evidence. Rolf21 Jul 2015 #109

Do you have evidence of this? Or just smearing DUers for fun? arcane1 Jul 2015 #112

This is an opinion board, people can post their impressions. Evidence still_one Jul 2015 #119

And it's my opinion that claims of woman-hating should be supported with facts arcane1 Jul 2015 #123

Ok still_one Jul 2015 #126

Oh, you were not here when people on DU said that they could not vote for Hillary question everything Jul 2015 #174

What does it say about me, o wise one? arcane1 Jul 2015 #177

But some people just don't want the wrong woman in power.. frylock Jul 2015 #134

Welcome to DU, Rolf21 question everything Jul 2015 #172

How does this qualify as 'Latest Breaking News'? postatomic Jul 2015 #98

The article linked was less than 12 hours old? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #104

It's not news. At best it's just a bad op-ed. postatomic Jul 2015 #114

IT is not HIllary's fault. bvar22 Jul 2015 #101

No two people have been more absurdly investigated than Bill and Hillary Clinton AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #106

I like Bernie wendylaroux Jul 2015 #110

"There is no evidence"..(you forgot to include this part) misterhighwasted Jul 2015 #116

Problem is you have to subscribe to the WSJ to see that. The Atlantic makes a reference to the no still_one Jul 2015 #153

Can we trust Hillary?? Angry Dragon Jul 2015 #118

She is the only candidate we can trust. misterhighwasted Jul 2015 #122

Bernie?? Angry Dragon Jul 2015 #125

It was reported (LOVE that term!!) that he got free ice cream from Jerry Greenfield. George II Jul 2015 #131

Harmless back-scratching..like guns, & military contracts in his state. misterhighwasted Jul 2015 #147

Hillary will need a safe choice like Kaine or Vilsack as her vice presidential running mate NYCButterfinger Jul 2015 #138

Curses....Debunked YET again!!!! VanillaRhapsody Jul 2015 #127

I read the original WSJ story, which was a total hit job on the Clintons. BlueEye Jul 2015 #139

Didn't she make some bullshit promise about no hint of conflict of interest? Scuba Jul 2015 #142

Bernie and Hillary supporter here. But this headline is more than a little misleading. wiggs Jul 2015 #143

A RWer on Discussionist has also decided this is bad. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #145

pay2play nt HFRN Jul 2015 #149

These attacks on HRC are not helping Bernie,,,,,,,,,, Cryptoad Jul 2015 #151

Once A Corporatist - Always A Corporatist cantbeserious Jul 2015 #157

Sorry, but that is straight up corruption Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #161

Drip, drip, drip. zentrum Jul 2015 #163

And the Hillary hate continues.... unabated. philosslayer Jul 2015 #171

That can't be. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #173

Kickity kick glinda Jul 2015 #175

If it walks like a Duck and it talks like a Duck... Ford_Prefect Jul 2015 #178

Locking: Analysis itsrobert Jul 2015 #180