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24. Sounds like the standard Rumsfeld defense to me.

Fri Sep 18, 2015, 10:21 AM

Sep 2015

The officers made the decision they did with the information they had with what they thought was right at the time,” Boyd responded. “We are clearly going to review this..."

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Irving police chief admits: Cops knew Ahmed Mohamed didn�t have a bomb when they arrested him [View all] Lunabell Sep 2015 OP

"Damn! They never thought he had a bomb!" Kudos to pepperbear. merrily Sep 2015 #1

So, they thought it was a hoax, and tried to strong arm a confession? ReactFlux Sep 2015 #12

More like, they knew it wasn't a bomb AND that there had not been a hoax rocktivity Sep 2015 #43

No hoax. Please see Reply 34. merrily Sep 2015 #55

I stand corrected rocktivity Sep 2015 #62

I think you just nailed it. merrily Sep 2015 #63

There was no hoax. The kid made a clock. When asked what it was, he said, "It's a clock." No hoax. merrily Sep 2015 #54

Right, but they thought it was a hoax ReactFlux Sep 2015 #81

They imagined a hoax or pretended to imagine a hoax so they could bully the kid. merrily Sep 2015 #82

With this post running a close second rocktivity Sep 2015 #42

This really reeks, doesn't it. Then again, he's still alive, so I guess he should be grateful? merrily Sep 2015 #44

I'm surprised that he wasn't put in a chokehold, hog-tied SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #2

Isn't a bomb supposed to contain, you know, explosives? DetlefK Sep 2015 #3

What will explode? Wingnut's heads... HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #5

i hate to repeat this in every thread with this question but retrowire Sep 2015 #8

Thought you were supposed to get Downwinder Sep 2015 #14

on bombs? retrowire Sep 2015 #16

Nobody ever thought there was a bomb. Downwinder Sep 2015 #17

i agree that it's possible nobody actually thought it was a bomb retrowire Sep 2015 #18

I don't know if it was because Downwinder Sep 2015 #19

They wanted his name in the system yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #26

That was my first thought too. WestSeattle2 Sep 2015 #32

That definitely makes a lot of sense. -none Sep 2015 #77

They didn't evacuate the school or call the Bomb Squad Trajan Sep 2015 #60

hoax bomb, you can get in trouble for that...but the school and cops are still fucking idiots snooper2 Sep 2015 #25

"Just authoritarian procedures to put a kid in his place." Wasn't he already in his place? merrily Sep 2015 #47

First part of the freshman term, Downwinder Sep 2015 #50

That does not resonate with me. I don't know that police harass smart kids for being smart. merrily Sep 2015 #52

The police are lackeys for the school. Downwinder Sep 2015 #56

and they were so dumb they forgot to follow SOP, too? ReactFlux Sep 2015 #27

Well then you don't arrest someone. Statistical Sep 2015 #29

"Supreme leader, I think you're getting your information from cartoons" Taitertots Sep 2015 #31

I'd buy that if the first teacher he had shown it to hadn't been an Engineer. Stryst Sep 2015 #38

When I was in high school, bomb threats were common. winter is coming Sep 2015 #57

Yep. Bomb threats happened like clockwork... Gormy Cuss Sep 2015 #80

So they arrested him for pretending to have a bomb? Chemisse Sep 2015 #4

Yes, he was arrested because they suspected him of pretending to have a bomb jberryhill Sep 2015 #30

It's a reasonable suspicion fbc Sep 2015 #34

Meh jberryhill Sep 2015 #35

Thank you for that reasonable reply fbc Sep 2015 #41

The thing about "reasonable suspicion" is that once the reason goes away... jberryhill Sep 2015 #45

Not with this kid. Its not reasonable to suspect everything, its paranoid or in this case: racist. marble falls Sep 2015 #84

I don't think he pretended to have a bomb. merrily Sep 2015 #48

I think that kids were running ahead of him to the classes following Engineering to continue to DhhD Sep 2015 #87

At least, when he goes to the new school, he can tell them about his meeting with Obama. merrily Sep 2015 #88

These assholes ejbr Sep 2015 #6

The only way anyone especially a cop can improve is if they admit their mistakes. A Simple Game Sep 2015 #9

+1 n/t ejbr Sep 2015 #23

Brown Shirts Enthusiast Sep 2015 #7

The Irving police has backed themselves into a corner... TxGrandpa Sep 2015 #10

We have become The Wizard Sep 2015 #11

Careful with that ' WE 'word ... Trajan Sep 2015 #61

Seems like a pretty good case for civil rights violations. GoneFishin Sep 2015 #13

Seems like a slam dunk to me. christx30 Sep 2015 #22

An intensive course in the Three R's might be helpful. Learning nursery rhymes, too. Joe Chi Minh Sep 2015 #15

Well, yeah, we knew on Wednesday the original arrest was for possessing "a hoax bomb" muriel_volestrangler Sep 2015 #20

How does a clock that has been identified as a clock qualify as a "hoax bomb?" merrily Sep 2015 #49

They were claiming malice on Ahmed's part muriel_volestrangler Sep 2015 #58

Ah, an imaginary hoax. Or police lying about an imaginary hoax and also lying about the law. merrily Sep 2015 #59

Alarmed by a clock? ahimsa Sep 2015 #70

Sigh. Once again a cop is given the chance to admit fault and OF COURSE Rex Sep 2015 #21

I have noticed this over many years too. They dig in their heels rather than admit they fucked up. GoneFishin Sep 2015 #28

Next time you are in position to be sued, go ahead and admit liability jberryhill Sep 2015 #37

I don't double down on my mistakes out of pride or machismo. But I understand what you are saying GoneFishin Sep 2015 #46

Sounds like the standard Rumsfeld defense to me. displacedtexan Sep 2015 #24

I was of the understanding they never thought it was a real bomb, but that he was intending a hoax. Gore1FL Sep 2015 #33

But he never said it was a bomb rocktivity Sep 2015 #65

That's my point. Gore1FL Sep 2015 #71

Obviously. If they really thought it was a bomb, they would have evacuated the school Cal Carpenter Sep 2015 #36

Why is nobody talking about the other violations? dickthegrouch Sep 2015 #39

I hope the boy gets a good civil settlement with Irving PD and the school nt PufPuf23 Sep 2015 #40

This all started with a "teacher" Jesus Malverde Sep 2015 #51

They arrested him because they wanted to get applause from white people. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #53

No. They arrested him to send a message to brown people, and because they stupidly didn't think.... Moonwalk Sep 2015 #66

That too, but keep in mind the cops would stop this if there wasn't support for it.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #67

Pure fucking BS!! lark Sep 2015 #64

So..... that means Turbineguy Sep 2015 #68

"It's my party and I'll lie if I want to..." gregcrawford Sep 2015 #69

Certainly bring no laptops or shoes to this school. mahannah Sep 2015 #72

"presented in a way that it creates people to be afraid.� - Wow. What a great command of the English kath Sep 2015 #73

That kind of speech... jberryhill Sep 2015 #74

This shows just how much this country is doomed avebury Sep 2015 #75

Profiling Ashdric Sep 2015 #76

I personally think Munificence Sep 2015 #78

Its hard for me to understand the level of fear gripping this country. WHEN CRABS ROAR Sep 2015 #79

Using the chiefs reasoning: cops are uniformed to intimidate. That makes them terrorists. marble falls Sep 2015 #83

They arrested the kid sulphurdunn Sep 2015 #85

�That�s a clock and I�m the Queen of England': Ranting Sarah Palin thinks Ahmed Mohamed was up to no marble falls Sep 2015 #86