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karynnj

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7. It may be that Clinton's triangulation on positions, may cause her problems in the general election
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 09:52 AM
Oct 2015

She has, in essence, played the mirror image of Romney 2012. Romney had credentials as a more moderate Republican, but he redefined himself to be one of the more right wing - especially on immigration. He clearly thought he needed to do that to win the primaries, but it made him far less likely to win the general election.

In 2012, it seemed to me that he did not have the energy and enthusiasm from the right as they KNEW he was really not one of them. Yet, those positions may have hurt him with independent voters who might have been impressed with the MA healthcare system that happened when he was governor and was the role model for ACA.

I doubt HRC would have a strategist as tone deaf as the Romney one (Eric Fehrnstrom) who tole the media that primary positions don't matter and that it was as if they were written on an Etch a Sketch.

Hated as it is on DU, it might be Biden who defends the Obama administration's trade bill -- as it come to a vote. Now, we don't really know the details. Leaks often tend to be off base -- look at the Iran framework vs what most expected. What if this really is the first trade bill that MODERATES the impact of globalization? If you believe that it is globalization that has been the root of most problems that trade bills have been blamed for, it could be that we might be throwing out something that may be the better than the status quo.

If Biden enters, HRC might have to re-calibrate her campaign.

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HRC is still negative 6-10 among Independents, the biggest bloc of voters. leveymg Oct 2015 #1
I support Sanders. Whatever flaws Clinton may have, Biden does not help any Democrat win the general Attorney in Texas Oct 2015 #4
K&R +1 turbinetree Oct 2015 #21
I like Joe, but I do not see where his running for POTUS does any good for Dems. longship Oct 2015 #2
Agree and if he is going to jump he should do it and get the mess over with. Hiraeth Oct 2015 #10
This pretty much sums up the way I feel too … NurseJackie Oct 2015 #20
True. Hiraeth Oct 2015 #23
You don't understand what is going on. Lychee2 Oct 2015 #25
What a fucking pawn he is, if that is the case. No respect at all. Done. NurseJackie just about Hiraeth Oct 2015 #30
he has to distinguish himself from Hillary & that's dangerous wordpix Oct 2015 #3
I think is is about ego Evergreen Emerald Oct 2015 #5
I have a different theory BootinUp Oct 2015 #18
God forbid Robbins Oct 2015 #6
God forbid a true progressive is rising to stop any coronation; Biden, save us from Sanders! Attorney in Texas Oct 2015 #9
Biden, save us from Hillary! n/t Hepburn Oct 2015 #11
The only thing a Biden candidacy would save us from is a Democratic win in 2016. His candidacy Attorney in Texas Oct 2015 #15
excellent analysis uawchild Oct 2015 #24
It may be that Clinton's triangulation on positions, may cause her problems in the general election karynnj Oct 2015 #7
Dems don't care Robbins Oct 2015 #13
Biden + Clinton = Same old, same old. SoapBox Oct 2015 #8
Sanders' path forward requires consolidating the "not Clinton" vote behind him. Dividing that vote Attorney in Texas Oct 2015 #14
it's time we all stop pretending Robbins Oct 2015 #16
Should we stop pretending that Warren is the Democratic Senator from Massachusetts? or Al Franken? Attorney in Texas Oct 2015 #17
Al Franken supports Clinton Robbins Oct 2015 #19
Many progressives support Clinton. Supporting Clinton does not equal abdicating being progressive. Attorney in Texas Oct 2015 #27
I disagree Robbins Oct 2015 #28
You appear to disagree with a point I never made. I never said Clinton was progressive. I said a Attorney in Texas Oct 2015 #31
Many people lose regardless Robbins Oct 2015 #32
You must not be married. Otherwise, you would not automatically ascribe Bill's views to Hillary. I Attorney in Texas Oct 2015 #33
The clintons always supported each other policys Robbins Oct 2015 #34
I just wish he'd make up his mind, one way or the other. n/t winter is coming Oct 2015 #12
Biden faceplanted his two previous runs for President. geek tragedy Oct 2015 #22
I am internally divided between rjsquirrel Oct 2015 #26
Biden is a good and decent man. Beacool Oct 2015 #29
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