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Matariki

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121. Logic 101

Sun Nov 1, 2015, 09:27 PM

Nov 2015

a = b : grass is green
b = c : green is a color
then c = a : color is grass

Like I said, I can't wait until the primaries are over.

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Bernie Sanders says the tone of the Democratic presidential race has become too personal [View all] Omaha Steve Oct 2015 OP

Actually it has barely started. mdbl Oct 2015 #1

It has - but mostly on Hillary's part. forest444 Oct 2015 #2

He told HER "all the shouting in the world" won't help with gun control and then pretended pnwmom Oct 2015 #11

I don't view him as a shouter - I think he's pissed off @the corporate control wordpix Oct 2015 #13

If Hillary raised her volume to the level he often uses, she would be accused of shouting. pnwmom Oct 2015 #14

He didn't single her out. Everything is not about Hillary, believe it or not! Live and Learn Oct 2015 #25

He answered her calm and reasoned statement by talking about shouting. pnwmom Oct 2015 #40

Still doesn't mean it was about her. And what he said was true. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #48

What was true? Who was shouting? He was the only one shouting about anything. n/t pnwmom Nov 2015 #57

I didn't hear him shouting at all. I guess it is all a matter of perception. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #59

You don't? His voice cracks and breaks because all he DOES is shout. MADem Oct 2015 #32

Your posts are becoming more ridiculous by the day. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #49

I talk about the candidate, you talk about me. Personal insult isn't the way to win an argument. MADem Nov 2015 #53

Wrong again, I was talking about your post. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #60

I have to admire your willpower.... daleanime Oct 2015 #31

I don't think he's sexist. But somehow he's perceiving her as shouting pnwmom Oct 2015 #33

See what I mean about your willpower? daleanime Oct 2015 #38

Elizabeth Warren has spoken out about the sexism she and other women in government pnwmom Oct 2015 #41

Link to her saying what Bernie said was about Hillary and that it was sexist please. cui bono Oct 2015 #45

As soon as you show me a link where Hillary says that Bernie was sexist. n/t pnwmom Nov 2015 #47

Why? I never made that assertion. I merely requested you to back up yours. cui bono Nov 2015 #72

I was responding to complaints that she was saying he was sexist. pnwmom Nov 2015 #74

thats the point: Karma13612 Nov 2015 #102

Bernie has used the phrase "shouting about gun control" many times. Francois9 Nov 2015 #91

So he's a robot and this is a habit. Okay. Why is he allowed to shout whenever he feels like it pnwmom Nov 2015 #101

I hear HRC always Marty McGraw Nov 2015 #104

That's not the point. Francois9 Nov 2015 #110

He was responding directly to her statement about his positions on gun control. And now you are pnwmom Nov 2015 #112

I guess once you've had the "click," the world looks different to you. Francois9 Nov 2015 #123

Thanks for posting this extremely helpful info. This is dispositive in my view about his intent. JudyM Nov 2015 #105

They weren't directed to her at all. Red Knight Oct 2015 #42

Of course they were. They were a direct response to her statement about disagreeing with him pnwmom Oct 2015 #46

No, he did not. You just won't accept it. cui bono Oct 2015 #43

Yes, he did. You just will not accept it. riversedge Nov 2015 #78

If this shouting issue is all that Hillary (Bill ) has INdemo Nov 2015 #86

"all the shouting in the world" is a common turn of speech Matariki Nov 2015 #113

But she wasn't shouting and he named her and specifically addressed her. pnwmom Nov 2015 #115

"she wasn't shouting" - which pretty much proves that the statement was impersonal. Matariki Nov 2015 #116

No, it doesn't. Women who are merely being assertive are OFTEN accused pnwmom Nov 2015 #118

Logic 101 Matariki Nov 2015 #121

She would never attack him if she weren't afraid of him. Francois9 Nov 2015 #85

Welcome! And you are absolutely correct on that! peacebird Nov 2015 #88

In politics just as in life, right? forest444 Nov 2015 #99

He wants to talk issues. SoapBox Oct 2015 #3

He wants to shout about the issues he cares about, and he often does. pnwmom Oct 2015 #15

Any idea how ridiculous you look running around this thread, trying to make something stick? DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #22

Probably so but from my observations it has been doc03 Oct 2015 #4

The whole thing was so stupid. azmom Oct 2015 #5

It's more than just "coming across as" Scootaloo Oct 2015 #9

Hillary nasty attacks may be doing Bernie a favor, in the long run 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #6

Nah-he is just crying to the press now-suspose that is a good 'skill' to develop???? riversedge Oct 2015 #18

He's calling Hills out for deliberately smearing him as being sexist. 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #21

He needs to bone up instead of whine to the press. riversedge Oct 2015 #23

I see it very differently, which I've already explained, so I'll agree to disagree. no biggie. 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #26

Bone up? What the hell does that mean? Live and Learn Oct 2015 #29

That's a sad little stretch. Or did you never go to high school, or college? MADem Oct 2015 #34

Another patronizing post not addressing the essence of the post, what a surprise. Live and Learn Oct 2015 #35

The essence of MaDems post is that MaDem took a teachable moment --and took the riversedge Nov 2015 #77

Now the word 'Teachable' Marty McGraw Nov 2015 #106

I was referring to the riversedge Nov 2015 #107

You might want to look up the word "patronizing". cui bono Nov 2015 #111

Thanks for educating that poster. Much apprecitated. riversedge Nov 2015 #76

I am glad you were able to learn another term from riversedge Nov 2015 #75

You mean like Hillary did about being told she was shouting? Kalidurga Nov 2015 #66

Bone up on what exactly? PaulaFarrell Nov 2015 #69

Exactly. It is quite obvious what was implied despite their denials. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #94

Sanders has had ample opportunity to apologize to Clinton, he used her name Secretary Clinton about Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #7

Bernie's not about to "apologize" for saying the same exact words he'd been saying 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #28

Then the consequences will be his to accept. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #50

And Hillary's will be hers to accept. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #61

Are you saying Hillary is responsible for calling Secretary Clinton and the rest about shouting, Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #65

Troll logic doesn't work with me. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #84

Oh for god's sake! Plucketeer Nov 2015 #97

Then explain to those who continuously returning to this over and over and over. It is oblivious Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #98

The fact you say he should apologize shows how you troll Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #114

Yep, he fired the first (and probably second and third) shots and it didn't get him anywhere, so.... George II Oct 2015 #39

Yes, it did not turn out as he thought, calling Secretary Clinton, it made it personal to her. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #51

Maybe, just maybe, if he stopped shouting at people about shouting, he'd do better. MADem Oct 2015 #44

He shouts often, maybe shouting is not a problem to him. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #52

It is to at least some of his listeners. It's not the way to draw people in. nt MADem Nov 2015 #56

There ya go Plucketeer Nov 2015 #100

Hillary's Campaign Is Pathetic billhicks76 Oct 2015 #8

The only place the campaign will ride to is the Oval office riversedge Oct 2015 #19

She Is A Bush Family Collaborator billhicks76 Nov 2015 #125

Pathetic post redstateblues Oct 2015 #27

Only if you are a Hillary fan. For the rest of us... Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #70

Lol billhicks76 Nov 2015 #126

Hillary is being so bossy mwrguy Oct 2015 #10

Some Say Hillary Clinton Didn't Do This, That It Was Her Campaign People NonMetro Oct 2015 #12

Exactly ^^^^ n/t indivisibleman Oct 2015 #17

She didn't use the word but the implication is certainly there. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #62

Exactly! NonMetro Nov 2015 #83

Bingo! peacebird Nov 2015 #89

I hope Sanders rips her a new one for her vote on Iraq. Warmongering is KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #95

thank you. You stated this perfectly, waaay better than I could have. nt Karma13612 Nov 2015 #103

let's just compare their proposals for reducing gun violence & see who wins the debate wordpix Oct 2015 #16

sure pinebox Oct 2015 #20

Ask them to compare on EVERY issue. That would do her in. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #63

Not even enough. The Civil War, that was personal. This is nuthin', yet. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2015 #24

Hillary can't run on the issues so she made up the ridiculous charge that Sanders is sexist. Bernblu Oct 2015 #30

Why not give us the actual quote where she charged Sanders of being a sexist? George II Oct 2015 #37

Not possible since it did not happen. But there have been lots of accusations she did, funny how Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #54

So where is the quote of Clinton's calling him a "sexist"? George II Nov 2015 #58

So he's walking back starting the personal war? George II Oct 2015 #36

Oh, Clinton will get REALLY personal. It's how she rolls. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #55

Like when she claimed that McCain crossed the Commander-in-Chief threshold davidpdx Nov 2015 #71

"Commander in Chief threshold"? Francois9 Nov 2015 #92

Sanders supporters have been attacking Hillary for months right here. 6000eliot Nov 2015 #64

Well, that's how they roll. Beacool Nov 2015 #109

We/ve been attacking her positions on endless war, welfare deform, and letting banksters off eridani Nov 2015 #120

Well done, Bernie won't play games flamingdem Nov 2015 #67

Hey I wasn't in your yard MyNameGoesHere Nov 2015 #73

All the shouting in the world is not going to do what I hope all of us want. FreedomRain Nov 2015 #79

I know Bernie had hoped for a civil campaign, but that was not realistic. Vinca Nov 2015 #80

Bernie's statement, " all the shouting in the world" was about as impersonal as a statement can JDPriestly Nov 2015 #81

This is a made-up controversy that makes Hillary look like an overly sensitive whiner. Yes it does. djean111 Nov 2015 #82

+1 Matariki Nov 2015 #117

EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF POLITICS PRACTICED TODAY! cynzke Nov 2015 #87

Lol: It is as old as polictics: blame your opponent for being a meeny. Evergreen Emerald Nov 2015 #90

This is mild compared to what a well-funded GOP candidate has in store for the Democratic nominee. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #93

Fortunately, all that Marty McGraw Nov 2015 #108

This is my feeling exactly Blasphemer Nov 2015 #119

After the 2008 primary, sulphurdunn Nov 2015 #96

Just look at this thread. How will we ever discuss the issues? Matariki Nov 2015 #122

A lot of people prefer the soap opera quality of elections deutsey Nov 2015 #127

As Harry Truman said, if you can't take the heat The Second Stone Nov 2015 #124