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jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
30. It's basic E&M
Tue May 29, 2012, 12:19 AM
May 2012

On fields & waves theory, they're fine. Making sure there is enough reflective density on the top of a deep tunnel to mask the hole underneath is not hard and doesn't require advanced materials.

It's amazing how creative smart people get (and they have enough of a cadre of smart folks) when circumstances dictate.

The tuned acoustic resonators that the North Vietnamese had guys stand inside in order to do long range air raid detection, for example, were pretty cool. Cuban farm yield techniques is another.

We've applied the same techniques to tunnels under the US-Mexico border, and they still manage to dig them and use them from time to time.

If we are talking about underground complexes tucked away anywhere in the DPRK, that's more territory than you are going to cover with ground penetrating radar. You have to have some pretty good idea where you are looking for whatever it is you are looking for.

I hate to paraphrase Rumsfeld, of all people, but we know what we know and we know some things that we don't know, but the things we don't know that we don't know are the buggers.

On another note entirely, did you catch the "traffic accident" rash that has killed off just about any DPRK official who has been engaged in any talks with the South? That's a great Stalinesque move. If you don't know who might have been leaking what, then take the pre-emptive course of killing anyone who had the opportunity, whether they leaked or not. That's pretty hardcore. Order half of your most presumed loyal followers to kill the other half, and it's a pretty sure bet that the ones left are not going to step out of line.

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WTF! Why would you make this known if true? Yea, and how the hell do you get them out teddy51 May 2012 #1
hmmmm Lars77 May 2012 #3
more likely naaman fletcher May 2012 #46
Hey! North Korea!!! Please look for our soldiers! MNBrewer May 2012 #2
yeah, they do that anyway. How many people are detained for 'helping the enemy' do you think? pasto76 May 2012 #10
Maybe this is the US's way of tipping off Jong-Il Jr and the N Koreans that TheDebbieDee May 2012 #4
If we could have we would have long ago 14thColony May 2012 #35
Well...not exactly. Rod Mollise May 2012 #44
Our capability in this regard is the GBU-28 14thColony May 2012 #53
It would take a lot of workers to create these tunnels. Incitatus May 2012 #49
Yep, strange story to be public ... n/t RKP5637 May 2012 #5
Why admit it? To defuse the publicity when the N. Koreans start executing spies? WriteWrong May 2012 #6
"The entire tunnel infrastructure is hidden from our satellites," ... awoke_in_2003 May 2012 #7
If I were to guess they (N. Koreans) are using Harmony Blue May 2012 #8
We used ground penetrating radar... awoke_in_2003 May 2012 #14
Problem is -- the tunnels could extend under South Korea. JDPriestly May 2012 #41
you could be right... awoke_in_2003 May 2012 #45
True! JDPriestly Jun 2012 #54
What - they don't have seismographs or hedgehog May 2012 #51
think the only way out is through the DMZ? pasto76 May 2012 #9
It's a surprising thing to admit jberryhill May 2012 #11
One if by land, and two if by sea, and I on the opposite shore will be! MADem May 2012 #37
and he is talking about this why? Botany May 2012 #12
DU readers seriously believe N. Korea does NOT know about this already? doh! nt msongs May 2012 #13
This is not at all secret. It's been going on for decades. David__77 May 2012 #15
This is simple the United States is sending a message Harmony Blue May 2012 #16
Is this preemptive damage control because some of them have been captured? Poll_Blind May 2012 #17
Maybe this is old news to the North Koreans and the US wants to control the story JDPriestly May 2012 #42
Interesting ogima May 2012 #18
Why would they kidnap Americans to teach them English? jberryhill May 2012 #22
You're bad. area51 May 2012 #36
He could just be fucking with the North Korean's heads Nevernose May 2012 #19
I think so, too. Old and In the Way May 2012 #26
and why did the president win the Nobel Peace Prize again....?? n/t IamK May 2012 #20
For answering a question about American society jberryhill May 2012 #24
For efforts in creating peace between nations. boppers Jun 2012 #55
its cooperate with us or get "blowed up"..... n/t IamK Jun 2012 #56
they are doing a good job on their own with the arab spring breakout of 2011.....n/t may3rd Jun 2012 #57
...or don't try to blow us up, and we'll leave you alone. boppers Jun 2012 #58
I need to call BS on this... Fearless May 2012 #21
The seismic and ground scanning radar techniques... jberryhill May 2012 #23
There are other methods... Fearless May 2012 #27
That works in the absence of countermeasures jberryhill May 2012 #28
North Korea isn't exactly a bastion of advanced techniques either. Fearless May 2012 #29
It's basic E&M jberryhill May 2012 #30
sort of like the caves in Afghanistan that were supposed to be like something out of Tolkien but yurbud May 2012 #32
Jesus H. Christ, I wonder what genius at the Pentagon authorized coalition_unwilling May 2012 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author GAspnes May 2012 #31
Maybe China has finally given the OK to US & S. Korea to topple North yurbud May 2012 #33
"The US military vehemently denies this"?..then it must be true! red dog 1 May 2012 #34
'Clarification' by 'The Diplomat': may have been hypothetical muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #38
Anything to start another war newfie11 May 2012 #39
This sounds like Psyops. Javaman May 2012 #40
one reason they might say it is because we are a democracy Enrique May 2012 #43
an act of war by any other name would be called an invasion. may3rd May 2012 #47
update your link it now says ""US military denies parachuting into N.Korea"" may3rd May 2012 #48
Yoohoo, Kim Jong-Un! Intruder Alert! Canuckistanian May 2012 #50
This whole thing is..... DeSwiss May 2012 #52
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