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44. Her tune sure has changed since the early 1990's

Fri Jan 29, 2016, 07:48 PM

Jan 2016

What was it, the constant insults from the reichwing or the million dollar speeches that changed her? Does she think the righties will like her more? Does she really think single payer is wrong? Who knows. That's my problem with her.

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Clinton: Sanders' health care plan 'will never, ever come to pass' [View all] Molusko Jan 2016 OP

Sorry US citizens, you will have to settle for a third rate, failed system. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #1

Obamacare is a failed system? Molusko Jan 2016 #2

It's not failed. It's just not what we need. Gore1FL Jan 2016 #6

The US healthcare system is failing the 30 million without healthcare. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #9

Not to mention millions of us WITH insurance who still can't afford the copays n/t arcane1 Jan 2016 #26

And the people who lose their plans and must find another plan guillaumeb Jan 2016 #62

And its failing because we keep electing absolute fucktards Blue_Adept Jan 2016 #92

True. Money talks quite loudly, and politicians listen closely. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #95

You do realize the average deductible is 4k right? trillion Jan 2016 #16

But if you're earning $250,000 a year, then........ wolfie001 Jan 2016 #23

Name another country that pays more for less. mhatrw Jan 2016 #33

Just wait. jeff47 Jan 2016 #35

It has failed to cover all Americans. It was supposed to be a first step. Bullcrap. Now is the time rhett o rick Jan 2016 #45

WalMart offers 'insurance' to its employees with a $5500 yearly deductible Dems to Win Jan 2016 #49

Not a failure? katsy Jan 2016 #53

It fails in a number of ways but is better than what we had before wordpix Jan 2016 #54

Not failed - but not complete, either. davidthegnome Jan 2016 #86

We see no way possible to eliminate the insurance industry interests. Rilesome Jan 2016 #40

Because HRC's interests are the same as the insurance companies interests? guillaumeb Jan 2016 #63

how in the hell does she expect to win saying stuff like this and why the roguevalley Jan 2016 #74

What HRC is actually doing, in my view, is deliberately lowering expectations. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #94

i think she's looking to bring in support from people who already have low expectations 0rganism Feb 2016 #113

Something's going to come to pass. The current situation isn't stable. Yo_Mama Jan 2016 #3

True, but it's not going to be that ridiculous tripe Recursion Jan 2016 #99

With you. Costs and compromises, because we are going to have to compromise. Yo_Mama Jan 2016 #105

More from the "NO WE CAN'T! It's just too hard!" candidate. Got it. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #4

Her tune sure has changed since the early 1990's mdbl Jan 2016 #44

xactly wordpix Jan 2016 #51

No We Can't LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2016 #79

Change that to NO HE CAN'T jmowreader Jan 2016 #106

Imagine JFK or LBJ running on the slogan: Racial equality is an idea that will never, ever come pass OrwellwasRight Jan 2016 #5

Can hardly believe this Mike__M Jan 2016 #15

Just. Don't. Get. It. OrwellwasRight Jan 2016 #25

The slogan "No We Can't!" is just surreal. myrna minx Jan 2016 #71

It's a message that says OrwellwasRight Jan 2016 #73

Truly. We went from "Yes! We! Can!" to "Don't bother - NO YOU CAN'T!" myrna minx Jan 2016 #75

Hillaryland is neverland: vote for Hillary and NEVER, EVER have universal healthcare! Kip Humphrey Jan 2016 #7

K&R - To keep the repulsive negativity in full view (n/t) Mike__M Jan 2016 #8

Sorry children, no good healthcare for you. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #10

She's correct, you know. NurseJackie Jan 2016 #11

She's not correct! CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #13

She's bought out by the insurance industry. trillion Jan 2016 #38

Obviously. mdbl Jan 2016 #46

We don't have to endure this nonsense any longer CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #48

does Open Secrets have insurance donation$ ? Time to do some research wordpix Jan 2016 #67

"Sorry the insurance companies own the politicians...so you get NOTHING!" CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #12

She is probably right though, after all can anyone here really imagine the republicans realistically cstanleytech Jan 2016 #14

so just roll over and let it happen? mdbl Jan 2016 #47

Being realistic does mean you have to roll over, you can by all means try to pass single payer cstanleytech Jan 2016 #64

She will never try. OrwellwasRight Jan 2016 #72

Yes, she probably wont but that doesnt mean that she would not be a good president cstanleytech Jan 2016 #80

I have a different opinion. OrwellwasRight Jan 2016 #91

Well stated. mdbl Jan 2016 #93

So true. OrwellwasRight Jan 2016 #101

Hey I didnt you had to support Hillary or atleast not now. You can support Bernie just keep in mind cstanleytech Jan 2016 #96

Yes...step 1 is to stop letting Republicans define acceptable discourse. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2016 #50

More like step one is to work harder to retake the local county and city seats from the Republicans cstanleytech Jan 2016 #65

And you do that by not letting Republicans define what is acceptable discourse. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2016 #66

So, youre posting this op as a positive thing? Wow, just wow. litlbilly Jan 2016 #17

There are a lot of things I don't understand about Hillary supporters. I.E. thinking this is good. trillion Jan 2016 #41

Why so futilistic? We can at least try. Maybe we can push the line of scrimmage a bit. Gregorian Jan 2016 #18

Yes, Hilary is in bed with the insurance companies. They are just one sector of her many Wallstreet trillion Jan 2016 #19

Clinton will never ever become POTUS onecaliberal Jan 2016 #20

The only advantage would be pro choice, after that it would be used for helping every wallstreet trillion Jan 2016 #21

Bernies record on women's issues is better than hers too, and it reaches back more years. onecaliberal Jan 2016 #22

Ms. Clinton, just because YOUR health plan never "came to pass"... PassingFair Jan 2016 #24

NO, WE CAN'T. A great campaign slogan. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #27

Healthcare is universal Wibly Jan 2016 #28

Hillary will say or do anything to get elected Jarqui Jan 2016 #29

"Let's Fail Without Ever Trying" is a pretty lame campaign slogan. arcane1 Jan 2016 #30

I love that! 'Let's fail without ever trying.' PatrickforO Jan 2016 #32

BULLSHIT. Vote Bernie and then back his play and it WILL happen. PatrickforO Jan 2016 #31

"NOPE!" Babel_17 Jan 2016 #34

NO WE CAN'T (have what every other developed nation has)! Odin2005 Jan 2016 #36

Really? People recced this? Ugh. truebluegreen Jan 2016 #37

Imagine Kennedy saying "We will never put a man LibDemAlways Jan 2016 #39

Think Big Hillary! Think big ebbie15644 Jan 2016 #42

Her presidency is what's "never, ever" going to happen, tinkerbelle Jan 2016 #43

hers are fighting words, for sure, and I'm willing to fight wordpix Jan 2016 #69

was she in a school doorway when she said it? MisterP Jan 2016 #52

what does that mean? maxsolomon Jan 2016 #57

li'l Georgie Wallace MisterP Jan 2016 #58

maybe not right away. it would take time -- DesertFlower Jan 2016 #55

it could pass, but not in today's america maxsolomon Jan 2016 #56

With the company that HRC keeps, you're fuckin-a right we won't! n/t Earth_First Jan 2016 #59

Why, because she's fighting against it? Dont call me Shirley Jan 2016 #60

Hmmmm, lets look at previous Hillary predictions LiberalLovinLug Jan 2016 #61

How inspirational. Scootaloo Jan 2016 #68

yes, isn't it though? wordpix Jan 2016 #70

There is no Congress to Legislate it into existance. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #76

The Party of "NO WE CAN'T" Truprogressive85 Jan 2016 #77

how adorably lovely, senseandsensibility Jan 2016 #78

OK, Clinton is firmly against Single Payer. jonestonesusa Jan 2016 #81

How inspirational hibbing Jan 2016 #82

and for my 23rd. post olddots Jan 2016 #83

That's a perfect soundbite for a future Sanders commercial eom LiberalElite Jan 2016 #84

As many times as the Republicans tried to repeal the ACA My Good Babushka Jan 2016 #85

Something odd about that logic. davidthegnome Jan 2016 #87

This really pisses me off about Clinton, such a HUGE flip flop. lark Jan 2016 #88

Why does she beleive gun control can come to pass and not Medicare for All? EndElectoral Jan 2016 #89

gun control=her personal safety. As a member of the 1%, she doesn't need Medicare for All wordpix Feb 2016 #107

I think a good step would be to offer a public option Politicub Jan 2016 #90

And if Hillary had been notably older in 1962 or so... Herman4747 Jan 2016 #97

She is really a miserable wretch Doctor_J Jan 2016 #98

I think it's almost at a point madville Jan 2016 #102

I get the feeling Hillary is not talking to us at all--she's just reassuring the rich yurbud Jan 2016 #100

Just yesterday I watched a clip of her crowing about the moon! elias49 Jan 2016 #103

This message was self-deleted by its author GP6971 Jan 2016 #104

Never say never harun Feb 2016 #108

I don't see why not. It should be easier to enact than the ACA. Vinca Feb 2016 #109

She enjoys her taxpayer funded healthcare, I am sure. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #110

I believe her. She seems to know the people who would prevent it very well. hughee99 Feb 2016 #111

So the US can't accomplish something several industrialized nations have? winter is coming Feb 2016 #112