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sofa king

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38. Let's take this Saudi business step-by-step.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:36 AM
Apr 2016

What was really going on is the Republicans and their allies the Saudis were trying to toss a wrench into the US economy in an election year.

But they didn't get away with it and the proof is in the headlines right now. The short version is this:

* The Saudis were (among other objectives) trying to pressure Russia out of Syria by overproducing oil, making Russian oil unprofitable.

http://oilprice.com/Energy/Oil-Prices/Did-The-Saudis-And-The-US-Collude-In-Dropping-Oil-Prices.html

* The Russians declared victory and made preparations to pull out.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/15/world/russia-syria-withdrawal/

* As soon as they did, the Saudis agreed to an emergency OPEC meeting, to discuss a production freeze, so they can go back to making money.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-01/saudi-arabia-will-only-freeze-oil-production-if-iran-joins-plan

* In the meantime, Republican election success depends directly upon oil prices, so whatever they're saying publicly, privately they're rooting for the Saudis to freeze production.

https://www.texastribune.org/2016/03/16/oil-prices-depress-texas-campaign-donations/

* Republicans also depend upon economic instability to get close enough to steal it, and raising fuel prices is all they need.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/what-would-another-recession-mean-2016

* Recall that this is exactly the game they played in 2000 to let GW Bush get close enough to steal it.

http://articles.latimes.com/2000/sep/23/news/mn-25321

* So the moment the Saudis opened the door to an emergency meeting, President Obama started to consider declassifying reports that would surely implicate the Saudis and the Republican Party in the 9/11 attacks. At the same time, a bill floated which would allow the families of 9.11 victims to sue the Saudis.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/11/obama-under-pressure-to-declassify-the-9-11-report-s-secret-28-pages.html
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/276680-clinton-sanders-back-bill-allowing-9-11-victims-to-sue-saudis

* The Saudis didn't like that at all, and quickly resorted to extortion.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3543702/Saudi-Arabia-threatens-pull-750-billion-U-S-assets-Congress-passes-bill-making-government-liable-9-11-related-lawsuits.html

Then the President dropped in on the Saudis, paying them a nice, cordial-like visit. There was a discussion, about what we do not know, and all of a sudden things changed. Now:

* The Obama Adminsitration wants to squelch the right of families to sue the Saudis.

http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/bipartisanship-breaks-block-911-bill

* The Russians are moving around artillery in Syria, rather than pulling it out.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russia-moves-artillery-units-syria/

* And the Saudis won't freeze oil production.

http://www.businessinsider.com/no-deal-iran-sits-out-the-biggest-oil-meeting-in-decades-2016-4

Here's what I think we can conclude from all of this. The Republicans and their allies the Saudis were up to their usual election-year trick of destabilizing the US economy, in order to help the Republicans. President Obama in turn began a double counterpunch, legislatively and through executive action, threatening to reveal the Saudi (and therefore Republican) role in the 9/11 attacks.

The Saudis freaked the f&^% out about it, went straight to the armageddon threats, and quietly rolled over on halting oil production. This pissed the Russians off and now they're not leaving Syria, but hell with them right now, say both the Saudis and the Americans.

The deal, obviously, is that the Obama Administration will keep up the usual 9/11 charade for another six months, in return for which the Saudis will continue to overproduce oil for another six months.

In the United States, the economy will continue to improve, unemployment will continue to drop, and the Republicans are going to get totally stomped, losing the White House, the Supreme Court, and probably Congress as well.

All because the Republicans and the Saudis have colluded to cover up whatever criminal role they both had in the September 11 attacks. We know this for certain, logically, because the cover-up itself was felonious and the cover-up always conceals a larger crime.

In other words, for the first time, the United States has begun to use the 9/11 attacks against the beneficiaries of the attacks, and it scared the ever-lovin' crap out of Saudi Arabia, which tells us a lot about their role in it.

It might just destroy the Republican Party forever.

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #1
Well look at that. A preview of the general. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #2
^^^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^^^ Esse Quam Videri Apr 2016 #3
She'll duck the question. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #6
She'll laugh and drone 840high Apr 2016 #7
Podesta Group? Never heard of them. SHRED Apr 2016 #19
"I haven't heard this before. I'm gonna look into it and get back to you." IDemo Apr 2016 #25
GOP frontrunner more correct on the Iraq Invasion than the Democratic frontrunner KeepItReal Apr 2016 #4
And on trade. Dems to Win Apr 2016 #12
^ This. AzDar Apr 2016 #17
Sadly, correct. closeupready Apr 2016 #35
Short-fingered Republican Vulgarian gets one thing right AxionExcel Apr 2016 #21
That's the truth - but not the whole truth. forest444 Apr 2016 #36
+ 1 AxionExcel Apr 2016 #37
As the Romans used to say: Cui bono. forest444 Apr 2016 #39
Well, Trump is right. It should be released. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #5
Now that's diplomacy. If you enjoy being at war. Gregorian Apr 2016 #8
I think it's his honesty in some perverted way that attracts some to him. Gregorian Apr 2016 #9
step away from the computer. Gregorian Apr 2016 #10
this is precisely why he's so DANGEROUS MisterP Apr 2016 #16
same exact conversation Locrian Apr 2016 #22
He should still be stoped at all cost. Unicorn Apr 2016 #11
Watch the hosts hibbing Apr 2016 #13
I hope she chooses a good VP (if she wins). C Moon Apr 2016 #14
Well, what do you know? Even the Donald can figure that out. Jack Rabbit Apr 2016 #15
Donald Trump dynamo99 Apr 2016 #18
yes the ivy league are in denial Locrian Apr 2016 #23
“We attacked Iraq and frankly by attacking Iraq — Turborama Apr 2016 #20
short words = good Locrian Apr 2016 #24
Disjointed sentences = bad Turborama Apr 2016 #30
2 words = george bush - n/t Locrian Apr 2016 #42
Another 2 words. Stolen elections. n/t Turborama Apr 2016 #43
absolutely - history does repeats itself n/t Locrian Apr 2016 #55
He's terrible with grammer but huge and fantastic wordpix Apr 2016 #48
Really looking forward to the GOP convention in July. tanyev Apr 2016 #26
Is he saying that friends of George W. Bush's administration were involved in 9/11? DetlefK Apr 2016 #27
Could we get a 'Donald Trump' group for all the "Trump is right about this" posts. pampango Apr 2016 #28
Oh give it a rest Reter Apr 2016 #31
As long as you mention that he is a 'really really' racist and xenophobic 'broken clock' pampango Apr 2016 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #29
Stopped Clock MosheFeingold Apr 2016 #33
911 was an inside job. olddad56 Apr 2016 #34
Let's take this Saudi business step-by-step. sofa king Apr 2016 #38
All of this undermines arguments that Hillary is a Republican. apnu Apr 2016 #41
Democrats are in a really good place right now. sofa king Apr 2016 #44
Oh Yes. I believe history will be most kind to Obama. apnu Apr 2016 #54
But why not just reveal the Republican Collusion? trudyco Apr 2016 #46
Because we're in on it too, now. sofa king Apr 2016 #47
We are already selling billions of dollars worth of military hardware wordpix Apr 2016 #49
This dumbass is 15 years too late. apnu Apr 2016 #40
Come on, you're being way to hard on him Reter Apr 2016 #56
Excellent! ozone_man Apr 2016 #45
Yes, but what about the 7-11 report? tclambert Apr 2016 #50
trump will fix it and negotiate a better price on the Slurpees olddad56 Apr 2016 #52
Yes wow! And many are looking at this, along with his Soc Sec expansion Hillary won't talk about! ViseGrip Apr 2016 #51
Good God, he's right. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #53
The Donald:"Never Forget 7/11" Right? DianaForRussFeingold Apr 2016 #57
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