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The Green Manalishi

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133. Adults hold their nose and do what they have to

Mon May 2, 2016, 04:31 PM

May 2016

Changing diapers, unclogging plumbing, voting for someone with a 'D' after their name who stands for nearly as many things you dislike as things you believe in.

The damage done by President Trump's Supreme Court justices will be on the heads of those who don't pull the lever for Hillary.

I proudly support Bernie. I like his personality, his ethics and his policies MUCH better.

But, while I respect the fervor and passion of others who also support Bernie, the FACT is that "Politics is the art of the possible". Sometimes you get 51 percent of what you want; if you throw a fit about that then you get 0%. We got 0% in 2000.

I'm still hoping that somehow Bernie gets the nomination. But if it's Hillary and you don't vote for her you ARE voting for trump

this is not a godamned role-playing game. Real adults, citizens who actually care about humanity and their country know sometimes you suck it up and go with the lesser or two evils.

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Trump 41%, Clinton 39% [View all] tabasco May 2016 OP

#BernieOrBust SusanLarson May 2016 #1

Plenty of folks will be voting for Clinton ... LannyDeVaney May 2016 #8

The facts do not support your contention SusanLarson May 2016 #26

Milennials and independents don't oppose Trump and all he represents with a blm May 2016 #39

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #63

Both have the highest unfavorable rating in the race. Go figure. n/t libdem4life May 2016 #66

Who is Ruth Bader Ginsburg? blm May 2016 #72

Is this a joke? liberalnarb May 2016 #153

Must be a millineal for Bernie who has not done any research. n/t RoccoR5955 May 2016 #163

I know! Those Bernie Bros are so uneducated, I feel bad for them!! liberalnarb May 2016 #169

Um, guys, the poster I replied to was a troll and his posts are removed blm May 2016 #194

Ok, what was the context? liberalnarb May 2016 #203

Results of Jury B Calm May 2016 #230

Some folks will alert anything RoccoR5955 May 2016 #235

I didn't feel attacked. The reply just didn't fit the exchange, but, an innocent blm May 2016 #296

if you don't live in a state named NORTH CAROLINA where every vote matters AlbertCat May 2016 #144

HRC supporters' bad behavior has no control of my vote - this state blm May 2016 #199

HRC supporters' bad behavior has no control of my vote AlbertCat May 2016 #250

Not sure I get why you say that. I guess I understand, somewhat, in that blm May 2016 #299

Or a state named Wisconsin Big_K May 2016 #147

What am I going to get for voting for Hillary Clinton? Victor_c3 May 2016 #159

Lately, it's worthy of note that Supreme Court rulings outlast most WH blm May 2016 #204

At this point, it looks like you get to avoid saying President Trump, Thor_MN May 2016 #222

And I'm not going to help elect a President Clinton. Victor_c3 May 2016 #229

So you think that Trump is better. Got it. Thor_MN May 2016 #234

Asume and read into what I said however you want Victor_c3 May 2016 #242

Thank you for your service, but that other site is over ------> there. Thor_MN May 2016 #245

Navy Vet here. I agree with everything you said. Katashi_itto May 2016 #303

Actually, president hillary will be... reACTIONary May 2016 #239

Some people are down with war and wall street. I'm not one of them. n/t Victor_c3 May 2016 #243

Some folks want peace and prosperity... that's why I suport hillary nt reACTIONary May 2016 #253

What you apparently want is to be fucked over by the banksters who are bankrolling Clinton n/t eridani May 2016 #257

America's financial industry is,... reACTIONary May 2016 #262

We'd lose nothing if they all vanished tomorrow eridani May 2016 #264

You would starve to death if they all vanished tomorrow . .. reACTIONary May 2016 #267

Becasue $300 trillion in ridiculous financial "products" have something to do with the-- eridani May 2016 #268

I previously mentioned .... reACTIONary May 2016 #269

Just take a look at small towns dying throughout America. OwlinAZ May 2016 #311

Ummm humm, and do those other countries have financial institutions? And where.. reACTIONary May 2016 #318

Dems here in NC never thought GOP would control this state. blm May 2016 #202

Trump came out against, outsourcing, free trade and the Iraq war Ash_F May 2016 #249

Wages are too high? videohead5 May 2016 #281

Yeah I am not saying it would be a good idea for them to vote for him. Ash_F May 2016 #284

That's what he sez now, but, HIS products are made in China, he's on tape supporting blm May 2016 #297

41% at the moment Ash_F May 2016 #302

REAL Sanders supporting independents are NOT idiots. blm May 2016 #309

STOP with your pathetic BULLSHIT leftynyc May 2016 #40

8 States out of 50 Geronimoe May 2016 #114

She also dominates in the south Chico Man May 2016 #129

Don't be confused AtheistCrusader May 2016 #140

do trolls smell like bacon? dlwickham May 2016 #193

Where do you get "all indications� she will take CA? I live here and that's not what I'm seeing. Stardust May 2016 #233

Yes Chico Man May 2016 #240

Thanks. Stardust May 2016 #252

Someone is raging over facts pinebox May 2016 #127

I am sure all Dems and Indy's will vote for the Racist/Fascist. Especially minority voters. emulatorloo May 2016 #116

The RCP average of Rasmussen and 6 other polls... Miles Archer May 2016 #136

Places the Dems never win like New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio?? radical noodle May 2016 #160

If you/they do, they get the President they deserve. Eom. Amimnoch May 2016 #178

Unless scores of Bernie supporters refuse to vote for her Proud Liberal Dem May 2016 #185

It's not worth discussing like this. There will defiant and pointless RiverNoord May 2016 #205

Finally, someone with some sense... chwaliszewski May 2016 #256

Lik Ohio, and Massachusetts, and NY, and PA, and MD, and Delaware. Agschmid May 2016 #251

Like Massachusetts, New York and Illinois? jmowreader May 2016 #263

Meanwhile Bernie will carry OK, WY, NE, KS.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #277

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #57

You say there's a 'most important demographic' and 'black/nursing home vote' ain't blm May 2016 #82

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #89

Dream on. johnp3907 May 2016 #87

Watch: If she wins her supporters will claim it's a total rejection of all of Bernie's policies.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2016 #74

not even for one second would we say that. bernie supporters just make shit up. it's MariaThinks May 2016 #225

There are some here dancing with glee over it. Spitfire of ATJ May 2016 #287

obviously nothing is going to be 100% MariaThinks May 2016 #292

Republicans don't think that way.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2016 #315

The days of the Democratic Party representing half of the public are over. raindaddy May 2016 #93

Hundreds of thousands fewer people have voted for Clinton in 2016, than did in 2008 EdwardBernays May 2016 #105

And Sanders has about 3M fewer votes than Hillary radical noodle May 2016 #171

Except EdwardBernays May 2016 #190

He'll be seen as worse once the GOP gets through with him radical noodle May 2016 #198

That's nonsense EdwardBernays May 2016 #207

They will have a lot more than just Communist to throw at him radical noodle May 2016 #216

They don't EdwardBernays May 2016 #220

This message was self-deleted by its author DUbeornot2be May 2016 #238

Media Spin erpowers May 2016 #221

Sure why not check? EdwardBernays May 2016 #224

Clinton Has More Votes erpowers May 2016 #314

That's why EdwardBernays May 2016 #316

Dream on RoccoR5955 May 2016 #161

They said the same thing about Carter vs Reagan. B Calm May 2016 #237

Agreed! Hillary Clinton is the chosen-one, and she will win it all! c588415 May 2016 #244

You can't win a General election with just your primary voters Scootaloo May 2016 #254

Thank you LannyDeVaney! I totally agree with you! skylucy May 2016 #308

You are insane if you do not vote for Clinton tabasco May 2016 #12

Progressives SusanLarson May 2016 #30

So true, but this is the year that the liberals demand to be payed A Simple Game May 2016 #75

A Democratic Party under the influence of Third Way isn't much of a Democratic Party. Enthusiast May 2016 #158

Here's the problem. Whenever progressives decide to teach the party a lesson Gman May 2016 #120

Adults hold their nose and do what they have to The Green Manalishi May 2016 #133

Well said and I could not agree more Gman May 2016 #145

May be real adults actually seek to change our country for the better. OwlinAZ May 2016 #310

Or, maybe the Party itself pugetres May 2016 #167

So you're saying you'll let Trump or Cruz become prez? Gman May 2016 #175

Where did you read that I said that? pugetres May 2016 #188

Of course you are Gman May 2016 #192

You seem assured that the GOP is going to win. pugetres May 2016 #208

She already has earned it Gman May 2016 #210

This message was self-deleted by its author DUbeornot2be May 2016 #241

They won't take responsibility... The Green Manalishi May 2016 #312

It is your attitude, a condescending and insulting attitude that alienates millions of us. Enthusiast May 2016 #173

So you're willing to assume responsibility Gman May 2016 #176

Are you willing to assume responsibility Enthusiast May 2016 #181

Repeating my statement and question is not a very good answer Gman May 2016 #182

My answer is concise, creative and correct. Enthusiast May 2016 #187

This message was self-deleted by its author DUbeornot2be May 2016 #248

Done Gman May 2016 #275

Oh and so did Hillary Victor_c3 May 2016 #174

So I guess you're willing to let it all happen again Gman May 2016 #179

And what makes you think Hillary won't repeat that mistake again? Victor_c3 May 2016 #219

Victor_c3... democrank May 2016 #209

Thank you for your thoughts Victor_c3 May 2016 #282

So get inside the Democratic Party and change it ... aggiesal May 2016 #134

The DNC deserves harsh punishment! n/t RoccoR5955 May 2016 #162

+1,000,000 n/t TIME TO PANIC May 2016 #200

Bernie is just being nice. Enthusiast May 2016 #156

Hillary IS a Republican... chwaliszewski May 2016 #258

You can only be walked on for so long coyote May 2016 #289

Then you can enjoy President Trump, knowing you didn't lift a finger to stop him. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #15

Not us, you! SusanLarson May 2016 #36

Are you planning to move somewhere? I'm voting for whichever Dem opposes him in the General. pnwmom May 2016 #37

We will survive SusanLarson May 2016 #56

Stop with the BS brush May 2016 #110

I recently transitioned. SusanLarson May 2016 #122

What was your name in the old account? Kingofalldems May 2016 #152

My old name SusanLarson May 2016 #212

That's cool. Kingofalldems May 2016 #214

^^^ notemason May 2016 #154

Agree! chwaliszewski May 2016 #259

Bernie would be the only Dem in the general greymouse May 2016 #95

Not true The Green Manalishi May 2016 #313

I did the best I could do to stop him. Shadowflash May 2016 #53

Bernie beats Trump soundly. This is a meme meant to silence. libdem4life May 2016 #65

He won't if he's not in the General. The only way to stop Trump is to vote for the Dem pnwmom May 2016 #68

And that should be, for thinking folks, the one who polls highest against The Donald. libdem4life May 2016 #78

No. Thinking people know that poll numbers right now mean little. Bernie has never pnwmom May 2016 #88

Well then we have no reason to believe HRC is in front, now do we? libdem4life May 2016 #92

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #67

There seems to be donnasgirl May 2016 #24

Then you're allowing leftynyc May 2016 #42

It's people like you who are to blame SusanLarson May 2016 #60

Post removed Post removed May 2016 #62

It's not a hissy fit Lefty donnasgirl May 2016 #70

I also pounded the pavement and the phones for Bernie in Upstate NY. RoccoR5955 May 2016 #170

Rocco Bernie won handily in my County donnasgirl May 2016 #206

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #73

.... libdem4life May 2016 #81

Reference Post #92 Petulant Hissy Fit. Indeed. libdem4life May 2016 #100

I'm a Bernie supporter Blackjackdavey May 2016 #69

Bernie or bust is irrelevant and meaningless Gman May 2016 #83

Independents will never "flock" to HRC. Not in a million years. Enthusiast May 2016 #177

They already are Gman May 2016 #180

No Enthusiast May 2016 #183

There are a certain phrases that pretty much sharp_stick May 2016 #102

So when President Trump dbackjon May 2016 #126

So you will support Trump if Bernie is not nominated, got it. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #130

So I assume you will be leaving DU if Hillary is nominated? Kingofalldems May 2016 #149

by the way, did you notice they joined in 2006 CreekDog May 2016 #288

Yeah, that jumped right out there. Kingofalldems May 2016 #291

I agree! Canoe52 May 2016 #164

Welcome to DU. CreekDog May 2016 #196

lolz obamanut2012 May 2016 #298

I find this very hard to believe eissa May 2016 #2

16% for another candidate is particularly unbelievable muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #45

What people say and what they do are different things TexasBushwhacker May 2016 #300

I believe it... modestybl May 2016 #61

Any Sanders supporter who votes for Trump is a fucking idiot. OilemFirchen May 2016 #94

Any supporters of Bernie who say they like him but think trump has a better chance, are NOT really SammyWinstonJack May 2016 #103

Exactly LW1977 May 2016 #104

They are Trump supporters who also like Bernie... modestybl May 2016 #135

I would never call those people fucking idiots. OilemFirchen May 2016 #146

Basically, anyone who thinks differently than you is a f'ing idiot? chwaliszewski May 2016 #261

They have to show up at the polls elljay May 2016 #64

Have you parked your car so that the earth we are all killing can support us and our children? jtuck004 May 2016 #76

It's Rassmussen. They're a Right Wing prop org and are never right with their numbers on anything TeamPooka May 2016 #112

I disagree ... it will be a shoo-in. LannyDeVaney May 2016 #3

This! ffr May 2016 #10

based on what? SusanLarson May 2016 #14

I disagree ... LannyDeVaney May 2016 #25

I think some of the Bernie fan-boys overrate themselves Vogon_Glory May 2016 #28

You know that blackmail generally does not pay off, don't you? radical noodle May 2016 #195

Please tell me which key states Clinton will win to secure this blowout victory. tabasco May 2016 #21

Ohio for starters ... LannyDeVaney May 2016 #29

FL, NY, CA and PA. nt SunSeeker May 2016 #33

????? gaspee May 2016 #52

I meant those are the key states Hillary will WIN in the GE. SunSeeker May 2016 #247

Whew gaspee May 2016 #272

LOL SunSeeker May 2016 #274

This link gives you a good idea of the thrashing that is about to happen LannyDeVaney May 2016 #43

Would love to get GA and TX onboard too. ffr May 2016 #54

General election matchup polls mean nothing until at least September. NuclearDem May 2016 #4

Exactly. The same Sanders supporters who believe the early GE polls showing Sanders stopbush May 2016 #16

She will lose in a General Election. SoapBox May 2016 #5

Oh I don't know: truebluegreen May 2016 #32

Rather like the Donald himself. forest444 May 2016 #35

hmmmm too bad rtracey May 2016 #6

Imagine if... Plucketeer May 2016 #7

...and has high favorability ratings, and polls highly against Trump...n/t libdem4life May 2016 #71

All Rasmussen (aka Repub Propaganda) has to do.... Mustellus May 2016 #9

That's Clinton's base SusanLarson May 2016 #41

That you're serving up the leftynyc May 2016 #47

Expect many attacks on the pollster. PeteSelman May 2016 #11

He will run to the left of her on trade and wall street/banking reform fbc May 2016 #13

Non-fascists will not vote for him, sorry emulatorloo May 2016 #20

Oh please. Trump is way to the right of Hillary on economic policy. SunSeeker May 2016 #48

Like fuck he will muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #50

Well then his idiot supporters haven't taken notice of how badly an economic hit they'll be taking SammyWinstonJack May 2016 #111

Rasmussen doesn't have a good track record. emulatorloo May 2016 #17

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RASMUSSEN???? fred v May 2016 #19

We know how this works. Poll becomes news - repeat repeat repeat underpants May 2016 #59

Nice cherry picking! puffy socks May 2016 #22

The IBD poll conducted during the same time period puts Hillary 7 points ahead. pnwmom May 2016 #23

+ 1 JoePhilly May 2016 #34

Rasmussen reports is famously biased in favor of GOP candidates. Also not LBN. anigbrowl May 2016 #27

And don't fucking blame bernie if she loses. RATM435 May 2016 #31

I wont blame Bernie leftynyc May 2016 #49

I didn't throw my vote away. I voted for Bernie. n/t Dawgs May 2016 #77

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #84

This is right up there with someone in GDP quoting Darrel Issa Blue_Adept May 2016 #38

maybe she can run again in 4 years when she is REALLY entitled... dembotoz May 2016 #44

She will - for reelection. COLGATE4 May 2016 #113

Total bunkum. Rasmussen's reputation is garbage after Bush. Clinton will win big. Laser102 May 2016 #46

I don't like Hillary Clinton ... jb5150 May 2016 #51

This! smirkymonkey May 2016 #150

A rassie poll? Gothmog May 2016 #55

I swear that DU is starting to look like Rim Job's COLGATE4 May 2016 #115

I agree with your analysis Gothmog May 2016 #223

A far right rassie rockfordfile May 2016 #211

SHE could lose. can you say swarzenegger???? GO BERNIE! pansypoo53219 May 2016 #58

My 6 year old sharp_stick May 2016 #119

And it damn sure ain't a shoo in for Sanders Gman May 2016 #79

Once again, not those nasty liberals and independents that should worry you Kelvin Mace May 2016 #80

Thankfully many have shuffled off their mortal coil....... wolfie001 May 2016 #186

This is a Rasmussen poll d_legendary1 May 2016 #85

But, but, but!!! It's her turn! nt longship May 2016 #86

Only according to BSers rock May 2016 #90

I only want to do what is best. longship May 2016 #96

So making snide remarks about Hillary rock May 2016 #101

Hillary promises (and would deliver) more status quo. Trump promises (and would deliver) change. For Attorney in Texas May 2016 #91

no clinton is good clinton captainarizona May 2016 #97

Bernie Sanders in the general means Trump wins 49 states jmowreader May 2016 #265

I think many mainstream Dems underestimate the hatred of Clinton by the general electorate. cleanhippie May 2016 #98

+1 nt abelenkpe May 2016 #232

KnR nuff said chknltl May 2016 #99

Its just time for Hillary and for a woman President LiberalLovinLug May 2016 #106

You got dat right! n/t RoccoR5955 May 2016 #172

Guess the Clinton camp better get to work shawn703 May 2016 #107

Hopefully lancer78 May 2016 #108

Hope the fall from your moral high horse COLGATE4 May 2016 #117

Morals are important lancer78 May 2016 #290

And I'm sure she was appropriately appreciative. nt COLGATE4 May 2016 #294

Why are you citing Rasmussen? Cary May 2016 #109

Because it helps with Daddy's argument to ignore pledged delegates/popular vote. SaschaHM May 2016 #118

Just to piss you off. tabasco May 2016 #138

Do these polls correct for Turbineguy May 2016 #121

Trump is so all over the place on issues TheFarseer May 2016 #123

The GE is going to be much harder than Clinton supporters expect it will be thebeautifulstruggle May 2016 #124

a real primary challenge wasn't even supposed to happen MisterP May 2016 #155

seems legit ! stonecutter357 May 2016 #125

If Clinton is likely to lose to TRUMP, of all people, then DON'T RUN THAT RISK Betty Karlson May 2016 #128

RW wishful thinking by Rasmussen--try this instead Maeve May 2016 #131

Fascinating that there are at least two other polls that give HRC a 10% lead... Buzz Clik May 2016 #132

Tell me where it is and I'll post it for you tabasco May 2016 #142

Knock yourself out: Buzz Clik May 2016 #148

So you do not have what you said you had. tabasco May 2016 #168

LOL! Look it up. Buzz Clik May 2016 #184

The media hasn't turned on Trump yet. They will after the primary. AtheistCrusader May 2016 #137

Get Out the Vote. Two to four Supreme Court Justice choices depend on it. Bernardo de La Paz May 2016 #139

I don't think the Republicans know Geronimoe May 2016 #141

rasmussen is as reliable as Fox rurallib May 2016 #143

Rubbish wysi May 2016 #151

Rasmussen .... LenaBaby61 May 2016 #157

This is good news for Hillary. SansACause May 2016 #165

Uh oh, Clinton shipwreck ahead. Helen Borg May 2016 #166

I voted for Bernie here in Maryland but.... wolfie001 May 2016 #189

Rasmussen is a right wing pollster dlwickham May 2016 #191

Today is the second day of May. tavernier May 2016 #197

Bernie beats Trump in EVERY poll I've seen. SmittynMo May 2016 #201

God this bickering sounds like the Freepers. It's Rasmussen AND ... broadcaster75201 May 2016 #213

I'm sure some people are curious to see what happen with a Trump presidency IronLionZion May 2016 #215

Thank goodness Democrats have another choice - a really, really good choice. DamnYankeeInHouston May 2016 #217

Did they poll Hispanics, and all those people who are going though the naturaluzation process now kimbutgar May 2016 #218

Didn't Ramussen have Romney winning the 2012 election? RandySF May 2016 #226

Bernie Sanders is great because he has a great platform that most people PatrickforO May 2016 #227

great.... Locrian May 2016 #228

National pols mean nothing right now Egnever May 2016 #231

Bullshit. tavernier May 2016 #236

Nate Silver has a really good list of the pollsters and which are good/bad. It's interesting. WhoWoodaKnew May 2016 #246

Do you have a link? Searched, didn't find it . nt reACTIONary May 2016 #260

Here ya' go. tabasco May 2016 #271

http://fivethirtyeight.com/interactives/pollster-ratings/ WhoWoodaKnew May 2016 #278

Would a President Trump �measure up�? hoffmanfiles May 2016 #255

Welcome to DU. TexasTowelie May 2016 #283

Thanks for sharing this and welcome to DU! Rhiannon12866 May 2016 #286

Do any general election polls taken in may really matter??? dubyadiprecession May 2016 #266

Rasmussen is an outlier Zambero May 2016 #270

Like clockwork I knew this 41-39 Trump poll would be posted here... UMTerp01 May 2016 #273

voter suppression by the political elite, run candidates openly hostle to working class Americans whereisjustice May 2016 #276

and here she goes..... ViseGrip May 2016 #279

Only Fools Think The Public Wants A Bush Or Clinton Back In The White House billhicks76 May 2016 #280

The one thing we CAN say is that .... LenaBaby61 May 2016 #285

Only fools don't know the difference of family by blood, and those by name. Darb May 2016 #295

Lol. Talk About Denial billhicks76 May 2016 #319

No, it's not, and no, they aren't. Darb May 2016 #321

Untrue billhicks76 May 2016 #322

A vote for her in the primaries is/was a vote for Trump. Cobalt Violet May 2016 #293

Clinton Loses To Trump billhicks76 May 2016 #320

Rasmussen is the only poll showing Trump winning anything justiceischeap May 2016 #301

Give it time. Sanders has treated Hillary with kid gloves. Trump wouldn't Attorney in Texas May 2016 #304

If you think Trump can do anything worse than the GOP justiceischeap May 2016 #305

Hopefully we never have to find out. Attorney in Texas May 2016 #307

I'm not buying those numbers Bradical79 May 2016 #306

I wasn't plannng on voting this elcetion cycle jamzrockz May 2016 #317