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105. Oh, is Bernie Unrealistic? For Shame!

Reply to jmowreader (Reply #80)

Mon May 9, 2016, 06:26 PM

May 2016

Oh my goodness, we can't have something better than in Europe and raise taxes to do it, that would be a crime!

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Study: Sanders' economic plan piles $18T on federal debt [View all] question everything May 2016 OP

But but but Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2016 #1

Study: Most would see net benefits from Sanders's proposals w4rma May 2016 #14

Concerning to me hamsterjill May 2016 #23

You wouldnt have to pay for health insurance ErikJ May 2016 #89

Like hell the company would boost my pay. hamsterjill May 2016 #90

Do you pay for some of your health care premiums? ErikJ May 2016 #93

No, the company pays for mine. hamsterjill May 2016 #97

You cant say your co.'s tax rate will skyrocket. ErikJ May 2016 #99

My company is owned by one individual. hamsterjill May 2016 #100

If he wants to keep his employees he will. ErikJ May 2016 #102

No, that's not how it always work. hamsterjill May 2016 #111

Of course it does. THe patchwork quilt system we have now ErikJ May 2016 #112

Look I'm telling you I can't afford it. hamsterjill May 2016 #113

What is your income? JackRiddler May 2016 #103

But would the M$M report this? ReRe May 2016 #92

People who cannot see a doctor or go to school don't see it as "free stuff". ForgoTheConsequence May 2016 #17

Oh grow up Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2016 #32

And those on high deductible plans that can't afford to use them? ForgoTheConsequence May 2016 #35

May brother is on the the Washington Apple Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2016 #37

A "Study"...from "Yahoo"...hahaha hahah ahaha haha haha hahah haha.Made up nonsense bjobotts May 2016 #48

Ok? ForgoTheConsequence May 2016 #95

Ever been on Medicaid? Chan790 May 2016 #104

Nonsense.Revenue would increase by more than that.Read Black-economist. bjobotts May 2016 #33

Just keep drinking the corporate welfare cool aid. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2016 #53

I found this interesting... Stryder May 2016 #98

I'd pretend it was "free stuff" too were I less educated and more irrational. LanternWaste May 2016 #73

We need that money for moar war. frylock May 2016 #2

In his book, Outsider in the White House, Bernie specifically identifies a number of programs in JDPriestly May 2016 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author iandhr May 2016 #9

Applause for you telling the truth pandr32 May 2016 #18

Figure the internet can use some facts now and then. iandhr May 2016 #28

Sanders' VT has been a YUGE beneficiary of the F35 program. stopbush May 2016 #21

I am SHOCKED SHOCKED. Well not that shocked. iandhr May 2016 #22

The rarest and most honest progressive of our times is not perfect? Who knew bjobotts May 2016 #36

He portrays himself to be holier than thou. iandhr May 2016 #39

... Surya Gayatri May 2016 #59

Sanders could eliminate the entire defense budget. That saves you $600-billion a year. stopbush May 2016 #25

There you go with the facts again. iandhr May 2016 #40

We already pay for much of what Sanders is suggesting. JDPriestly May 2016 #42

Exactly!! CanSocDem May 2016 #70

Putting a 1% trans action tax on wall street provides $12 trillion over next ten years bjobotts May 2016 #43

Tariffs also mean everything will cost far more, which wages won't cover. CrowCityDem May 2016 #49

Yeah. That will sail thru Congress Gomez163 May 2016 #58

Bullshit, this is establishment whitewash. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #4

You first. philosslayer May 2016 #6

Oooo. You said "establishment," so you must be right! stopbush May 2016 #26

I will aggressively support Hillary if Bernie loses, but that doesnt mean I dont Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #27

Oh HORRORS! Plucketeer May 2016 #5

You can't spell crap without AP. KamaAina May 2016 #7

!! KansDem May 2016 #12

I don't know why anyone believes the country has an appetite for the tax increases he suggests. CrowCityDem May 2016 #8

Sanders loves to cite Denmark as a socialist heaven. stopbush May 2016 #16

And the Danes rank much higher on happiness indexes than do Americans. Beowulf May 2016 #46

So how do you convince Americans? LonePirate May 2016 #62

WOW! All 5 million of them, huh? lol EX500rider May 2016 #88

To have what the Danes have? Sign me up NickB79 May 2016 #63

Sign you up? stopbush May 2016 #76

because there are tons of saving from rurallib May 2016 #24

Yes, there would be benefits as well... CrowCityDem May 2016 #31

I will respectfully disagree rurallib May 2016 #50

About them "70% tax rates" ..... Databuser May 2016 #34

I was including state taxes, since people often look just at the bottom line, and conflate them all. CrowCityDem May 2016 #38

Do you understand the concept of marginal rates truebluegreen May 2016 #108

We already pay exorbitant amounts of health insurance. I'd rather pay that money in taxes and get JDPriestly May 2016 #44

Single payer has nothing to do with non-profit. stopbush May 2016 #79

Please Increase My Taxes to Help Others McKim May 2016 #107

I'll show you studies that tell you how great trickle down economics is. nt thereismore May 2016 #10

Such as non-partisan think-tank LiberalArkie May 2016 #11

Study: Most would see net benefits from Sanders's proposals w4rma May 2016 #13

That $4,300 would be money spent in the economy, getting it actually going again. -none May 2016 #67

Then, as a partial measure Shadowflash May 2016 #15

What % of the US budget goes to foreign aid? stopbush May 2016 #20

I'm sure you're aware of which side of political spectrum propagates that foreign aid talking point. LonePirate May 2016 #66

Foreign aid is LESS than 1% of the federal budget. stopbush May 2016 #75

I agree. The whole notion of cutting foreign aid to fund a single payer system is absurd. LonePirate May 2016 #77

Yes Bernie and friends, there really is a Santa Claus. LOL Trust Buster May 2016 #19

I can see they're playing dumb. 10yr cost 32T$ - 15.2T$ increase on wealthy. They forget... Festivito May 2016 #29

We don't know the real numbers for single payer... CrowCityDem May 2016 #41

Can you name one thing not covered in any of: England, Sweden, Germany, France, ... Festivito May 2016 #45

Most of those countries... CrowCityDem May 2016 #47

Thought not. Know any procedures that have wait times there that don't here? Festivito May 2016 #55

I don't believe Germany has single payer Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2016 #56

But, they cover everyone at half our cost. Name one thing not covered by the non-corp insured then. Festivito May 2016 #60

Name one thing not covered by the non-corp insured then Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2016 #64

Then go ahead and name one thing not covered by any of those. Festivito May 2016 #71

Bernie has been in Congress since 1992. He knows, and we know that when we get single payer (and JDPriestly May 2016 #52

All I said was... CrowCityDem May 2016 #57

Less than half MAY NOT BE ACCURATE for you, but it is accurate enough for a lot of people! Festivito May 2016 #65

Did you just say whatever numbers we like are 'our truth'? CrowCityDem May 2016 #68

No, but I'd say that the "it's not accurate" is a game of smoke, haze, obfuscation: hiding of truth. Festivito May 2016 #74

He has stated many times it is time for the rich to pay their fair share of taxes, then someone in Thinkingabout May 2016 #30

Pick up a clue. bvar22 May 2016 #51

Maybe you should be the one to pick up the clue jmowreader May 2016 #80

Oh, is Bernie Unrealistic? For Shame! McKim May 2016 #105

Oh my goodness, you have no idea what you're talking about! jmowreader May 2016 #109

Our current plan costs lives. The only reason that single payer could be more expensive than the JDPriestly May 2016 #54

My Niece Died Because She Could Not Afford a Copay McKim May 2016 #106

11th richest country in the world (?), we're around 23rd, here. polly7 May 2016 #61

Sourcewatch - both sources ThoughtCriminal May 2016 #69

And probably blue nation review, Hillary's own right wing organ Doctor_J May 2016 #84

Not Necessarily colsohlibgal May 2016 #72

Recycling this crap again? Different study, same bogus result -- easily refuted KPN May 2016 #78

Fuck it! Victor_c3 May 2016 #81

I saw this headline when my office mate had his browser open to Fox nation Doctor_J May 2016 #82

Tax and Spend for Our Own People: Bring it On! McKim May 2016 #83

Considering how awesome they thought Romney was, I'll pass on this assessment. Gore1FL May 2016 #85

Thinking this through allinthegame May 2016 #86

big pharma jman0war May 2016 #87

Funny how we seem to be the only country incapable of doing this n/t arcane1 May 2016 #91

He should spend more, reduce the age of Social Security and along with free harun May 2016 #94

FFS We already spend almost $4T a year for healthcare! TexasBushwhacker May 2016 #96

If BS hadn't lost the primary so resoundingly, this would matter. Squinch May 2016 #101

Eliminate the rich's war addiction which is equal to 18T and we can have all these programs. Dont call me Shirley May 2016 #110