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In reply to the discussion: Hillary PAC spends $1,000,000 to "correct" commenters on Reddit, Facebook and Instagram [View all]puffy socks
(1,473 posts)67. "Bernie has done plenty for the Democratic party during his career as an independent."
He is dividing the party. Dividing the party is bad. He said so himself... and yet here he is. It's typical of Sanders his way or the highway attitude.
He hasn't done squat for the Dems. He has ridden on their coattails while insulting them at every turn.
"You dont change the system from within the Democratic Party.
My own feeling is that the Democratic Party is ideologically bankrupt.
We have to ask ourselves, Why should we work within the Democratic Party if we dont agree with anything the Democratic Party says?
He is a hypocrite who needed backing and then continues to stab the DNC and Hillary in the back as he has done to Dems throughout his carer.
"To become mayor of Burlington in 1981, he ousted a veteran centrist Democrat. To build power, his progressive allies in subsequent elections wrested away city council seats, relegating local Democrats to diminished, third-party status. In a series of statewide races in the late 80s and into the early 90s, he outdid even thatgetting Democrats to all but wave a white flag when he ran. "
He plays it both ways, said former Vermont Governor Madeleine Kunin, a Democrat who once successfully fended off Sanders from the left in a reelection bid. He wants to be different, and yet he wants to belongfor political purposes.
In 81, when he was elected mayor of Burlingtonby 10 votes, after a recountthe citys Democrats tried to stonewall Sanders.
He had an enormously contentious relationship with them, said Rep. Peter Welch (D-Vt.), then a state senator.
Back in those days, said Maurice Mahoney, the head of the Democratic Party in Burlington in the 80s, his goal was to destroy Democratscertainly on the local level.
It was a Democratic town that he basically took from them, said Bill Conroy, who wrote a dissertation on Sanders tenure as mayor.
Said Hamilton Davis, a longtime Vermont reporter and Sanders watcher: They hated him, and he hated themunreservedly.
I am not now, nor have I ever been, a liberal Democrat, he said in a profile in New England Monthly.
He said that in 85.
In that summers issue of Vermont Affairs magazine, he called the Democratic Party ideologically bankrupt, then added: They have no ideology. Their ideology is opportunism.
Said the opportunist now using those very Dems. Thast not an opinion that's a fact.
He endorsed Jesse Jackson in the Democratic primaries of 88even as he, Sanders, ran as an independent. He conceded it was awkward. Still, he stressed: I am not a Democrat, period. Sanders support for Michael Dukakis, the eventual nominee, was so tepid it almost didnt even qualify. He dubbed Dukakis the lesser of two evils as opposed to George H.W. Bush.
He lectured at the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard, taught classes on social democracy and urban sociology at Hamilton College in Clinton, New Yorkand continued his public bombardment of the Democratic Party.
In an op-ed in the New York Times in January 1989, he called the Democratic and Republican parties tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum, both adhering in his estimation to an ideology of greed and vulgarity.
At the Socialist Scholars Conference in New York City in April 1990, he asked, Why should we work within the Democratic Party ? He said at the gathering he was running for Congress that year again as an independent because it would be hypocritical of him to run as a Democrat considering the kinds of things he had said about the party.
Suddenly now that he needs the DNC infrastructure and support it's not hypocritical
I am extremely proud to be an independent, he told the Associated Press seven months into his congressional career. The fact that I am not a Democrat gives me the freedom to speak out on the floor of the House, to vote against both the Democratic and Republican proposals.
and he alienates everyone else with his pompous attitude.
The flip side at first was this: He screams and hollers, Rep. Joe Moakley (D-Mass.) said to the AP at the time, but he is all alone. Rep. Bill Richardson (D-N.M.) called Sanders a homeless waif. Said Rep. Barney Frank, in 91: Bernie alienates his natural allies. His holier-than-thou attitudesaying in a very loud voice he is smarter than everyone else and purer than everyone elsereally undercuts his effectiveness.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/bernie-sanders-2016-democrats-121181
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Hillary PAC spends $1,000,000 to "correct" commenters on Reddit, Facebook and Instagram [View all]
RhettScarlett
May 2016
OP
The point of the OP, as you know, would be her spending this money to "correct" opinions. Just
monmouth4
May 2016
#4
You should be proud. You've played a 74 year old socialist from a tiny state who had no
Ed Suspicious
May 2016
#6
"Bernie has done plenty for the Democratic party during his career as an independent."
puffy socks
May 2016
#67
She is not spending it at all. A Super-Pac that she has no control over is.
Midnight Writer
May 2016
#110
There is a difference between a TV ad, which people know was paid for to sell a message,
MoonchildCA
May 2016
#36
I am a Bernie guy, but if he doesn't have a paid social media presence then he is behind the times
FLPanhandle
May 2016
#49
Well, I'm actually a millennial, but democracy is pretty old if you think about it.
Nyan
May 2016
#58
No, you miss read, every campaign is doing it and has a strategy to counter other campaigns
FLPanhandle
May 2016
#96
There are a number of Reddit posts about Bernie's use of Revolution Messaging firm
FLPanhandle
May 2016
#100
No, it's not BS, it's recognizing the public isn't only sitting around watching TV anymore
FLPanhandle
May 2016
#30
Lots of time and effort goes to put the wrong stories out, some one needs to clean up after them.
Thinkingabout
May 2016
#9
I hope the Clinton supporters here get paid, because some work SO hard at
FailureToCommunicate
May 2016
#39
That's what I thought. These days you see way too many newbies suddenly joining DU
Nyan
May 2016
#84
LBN still stands for Latest Bernie News. I would have locked this month old blog post in a...
onehandle
May 2016
#44
It does raise the question about how much they spent here on DU and who got paid
Ford_Prefect
May 2016
#62
This thread is such a clear violation of LBN rules and yet it's still up.
Kingofalldems
May 2016
#93
If Hillary has to pay people to say good things about her, it tells the whole story. eom
zalinda
May 2016
#99
"correct" commenters??? Is that what this has been? I thought it was all about
Kip Humphrey
May 2016
#103