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puffy socks

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67. "Bernie has done plenty for the Democratic party during his career as an independent."
Thu May 12, 2016, 10:20 PM
May 2016

He is dividing the party. Dividing the party is bad. He said so himself... and yet here he is. It's typical of Sanders his way or the highway attitude.


He hasn't done squat for the Dems. He has ridden on their coattails while insulting them at every turn.


"You don’t change the system from within the Democratic Party.”

“My own feeling is that the Democratic Party is ideologically bankrupt.”

“We have to ask ourselves, ‘Why should we work within the Democratic Party if we don’t agree with anything the Democratic Party says?’”

He is a hypocrite who needed backing and then continues to stab the DNC and Hillary in the back as he has done to Dems throughout his carer.

"To become mayor of Burlington in 1981, he ousted a veteran centrist Democrat. To build power, his progressive allies in subsequent elections wrested away city council seats, relegating local Democrats to diminished, third-party status. In a series of statewide races in the late ’80s and into the early ’90s, he outdid even that—getting Democrats to all but wave a white flag when he ran. "


“He plays it both ways,” said former Vermont Governor Madeleine Kunin, a Democrat who once successfully fended off Sanders from the left in a reelection bid. “He wants to be different, and yet he wants to belong—for political purposes.”

In ’81, when he was elected mayor of Burlington—by 10 votes, after a recount—the city’s Democrats tried to stonewall Sanders.

He had “an enormously contentious relationship” with them, said Rep. Peter Welch (D-Vt.), then a state senator.

“Back in those days,” said Maurice Mahoney, the head of the Democratic Party in Burlington in the ’80s, “his goal was to destroy Democrats—certainly on the local level.”

“It was a Democratic town that he basically took from them,” said Bill Conroy, who wrote a dissertation on Sanders’ tenure as mayor.

Said Hamilton Davis, a longtime Vermont reporter and Sanders watcher: “They hated him, and he hated them—unreservedly.”

“I am not now, nor have I ever been, a liberal Democrat,” he said in a profile in New England Monthly.

He said that in ’85.

In that summer’s issue of Vermont Affairs magazine, he called the Democratic Party “ideologically bankrupt,” then added: “They have no ideology. Their ideology is opportunism.”

Said the opportunist now using those very Dems. Thast not an opinion that's a fact.

He endorsed Jesse Jackson in the Democratic primaries of ’88—even as he, Sanders, ran as an independent. He conceded it was “awkward.” Still, he stressed: “I am not a Democrat, period.” Sanders’ support for Michael Dukakis, the eventual nominee, was so tepid it almost didn’t even qualify. He dubbed Dukakis “the lesser of two evils” as opposed to George H.W. Bush.

He lectured at the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard, taught classes on social democracy and urban sociology at Hamilton College in Clinton, New York—and continued his public bombardment of the Democratic Party.

In an op-ed in the New York Times in January 1989, he called the Democratic and Republican parties “tweedle-dee” and “tweedle-dum,” both adhering in his estimation to an “ideology of greed and vulgarity.”

At the Socialist Scholars Conference in New York City in April 1990, he asked, “Why should we work within the Democratic Party … ?” He said at the gathering he was running for Congress that year again as an independent because it would be “hypocritical” of him to run as a Democrat considering the kinds of things he had said about the party.

Suddenly now that he needs the DNC infrastructure and support it's not hypocritical

“I am extremely proud to be an independent,” he told the Associated Press seven months into his congressional career. “The fact that I am not a Democrat gives me the freedom to speak out on the floor of the House, to vote against both the Democratic and Republican proposals.”


and he alienates everyone else with his pompous attitude.
The flip side at first was this: “He screams and hollers,” Rep. Joe Moakley (D-Mass.) said to the AP at the time, “but he is all alone.” Rep. Bill Richardson (D-N.M.) called Sanders “a homeless waif.” Said Rep. Barney Frank, in ’91: “Bernie alienates his natural allies. His holier-than-thou attitude—saying in a very loud voice he is smarter than everyone else and purer than everyone else—really undercuts his effectiveness.”






http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/bernie-sanders-2016-democrats-121181

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She has it to spend because she hasn't been blowing her funds on advertising tonyt53 May 2016 #1
Why that would be collusion. You better hope good ole Brock JimDandy May 2016 #2
Or maybe in the same boat as Bernie with his spending report? tonyt53 May 2016 #7
Says the suppoirter of the candidate puffy socks May 2016 #20
The point of the OP, as you know, would be her spending this money to "correct" opinions. Just monmouth4 May 2016 #4
Oh, get over it houston16revival May 2016 #10
I don't think you know 840high May 2016 #11
Yes. Party over principle all day everyday! Feeling the Bern May 2016 #53
No. Hillary over Bernie or haven't you done the math? leftofcool May 2016 #75
Again, party over principle all day every day Feeling the Bern May 2016 #92
Democrats aren't crooked corporatist bullies senz May 2016 #114
Exactly my point RhettScarlett May 2016 #24
What's wrong with making sure the facts get out? scscholar May 2016 #27
You should be proud. You've played a 74 year old socialist from a tiny state who had no Ed Suspicious May 2016 #6
He used the DNC to get the support needed puffy socks May 2016 #37
lol you just dont get it. thats okay though. nt retrowire May 2016 #47
Go ahead and explain it . puffy socks May 2016 #56
i said its okay. :) there's plenty of explanations abound. retrowire May 2016 #61
"Bernie has done plenty for the Democratic party during his career as an independent." puffy socks May 2016 #67
lol i dont care about the party's being criticized. retrowire May 2016 #77
Retro, socks will do what socks will do.... newthinking May 2016 #91
yeah i realized the users post count and saw how prepared retrowire May 2016 #95
Seems to me that the DNC consented St Aug girl May 2016 #106
Damn greiner3 May 2016 #81
Now Mr. Socks - tom_kelly May 2016 #66
If only that line wasn't so tired and worn out. puffy socks May 2016 #70
Another April baby, mmmmm Duckhunter935 May 2016 #82
And yet you don't deny it... JimDandy May 2016 #83
Logic impaired political strategy..... chknltl May 2016 #72
NY was a rigged election! earthmanneil May 2016 #90
She is not spending it at all. A Super-Pac that she has no control over is. Midnight Writer May 2016 #110
Smart move. FLPanhandle May 2016 #3
Are you joking? Or are you really advocating manipulation of public opinion? Nyan May 2016 #16
The world has changed and it's internet & social media driven. FLPanhandle May 2016 #26
There is a difference between a TV ad, which people know was paid for to sell a message, MoonchildCA May 2016 #36
I am a Bernie guy, but if he doesn't have a paid social media presence then he is behind the times FLPanhandle May 2016 #49
Bernie doesn't need paid shills. zalinda May 2016 #98
So, you're a Bernie supporter, but you agree with a principle that Nyan May 2016 #51
I'm not stuck in the previous century FLPanhandle May 2016 #55
Well, I'm actually a millennial, but democracy is pretty old if you think about it. Nyan May 2016 #58
Moneyed interests always take over. FLPanhandle May 2016 #63
"do i wish the world was different? yes" retrowire May 2016 #65
Fine, what are you doing about it? FLPanhandle May 2016 #71
voting bernie and not actively agreeing with retrowire May 2016 #85
So, basically you are doing nothing but complaining about it. FLPanhandle May 2016 #88
every campaign is against it? retrowire May 2016 #89
No, you miss read, every campaign is doing it and has a strategy to counter other campaigns FLPanhandle May 2016 #96
i believe you. retrowire May 2016 #97
There are a number of Reddit posts about Bernie's use of Revolution Messaging firm FLPanhandle May 2016 #100
"a giant email list of supporters"? retrowire May 2016 #101
did you overlook the "and social media posts" part? FLPanhandle May 2016 #104
mmm ok. it checks out. nt retrowire May 2016 #107
im voting for bernie beergood May 2016 #87
Hell i'm a Hillary supporter greiner3 May 2016 #86
A campaign is nothing but creeksneakers2 May 2016 #94
"Manipulation of public opinion"? What do you think campaign ads are? brooklynite May 2016 #111
Paying trolls RhettScarlett May 2016 #28
No, it's not BS, it's recognizing the public isn't only sitting around watching TV anymore FLPanhandle May 2016 #30
The GOP has armies of paid trolls tinrobot May 2016 #57
Not LBN - article is from April n/t TexasBushwhacker May 2016 #5
What is wrong about it? houston16revival May 2016 #8
How old are you? monmouth4 May 2016 #12
LOL pangaia May 2016 #25
8000 times your IQ houston16revival May 2016 #41
Yes, very much like you. You act like a child..n/t monmouth4 May 2016 #45
Quite the contrary houston16revival May 2016 #50
My post was a cognizant, earnest response to advance democratic goals houston16revival May 2016 #52
Count me as leaving this site houston16revival May 2016 #54
What's wrong with it? RhettScarlett May 2016 #29
Resulta of Jury Service Travis_0004 May 2016 #64
someone actually alerted this. retrowire May 2016 #69
And they do indeed need to be corrected! leftofcool May 2016 #79
Lots of time and effort goes to put the wrong stories out, some one needs to clean up after them. Thinkingabout May 2016 #9
Hillary Inc. is good at wiping. 840high May 2016 #14
No 'ugh' it is perfectly okay to fight Kingofalldems May 2016 #13
I'd be ok with that but... RhettScarlett May 2016 #18
This story is a month old BTW. Kingofalldems May 2016 #33
So she hires Brock to hire BernieBros... dchill May 2016 #15
Manipulate the Record is far more fitting. LS_Editor May 2016 #17
Exactly RhettScarlett May 2016 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #19
Exactly... RhettScarlett May 2016 #38
I was a good move when Obama did the same thing. What's different now? nt procon May 2016 #22
Bernie outspends Hillary and loses Gman May 2016 #23
$10,000,000 or $100,000,000 would be enough, when ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #31
Not LBN! Self-delete and repost in GD:P Dr Hobbitstein May 2016 #32
Not enough...just look at the trolls on DU! Sancho May 2016 #34
Boom. Nailed it. Kingofalldems May 2016 #46
Money is "free speech" now! warrprayer May 2016 #35
I hope the Clinton supporters here get paid, because some work SO hard at FailureToCommunicate May 2016 #39
That's what I thought. These days you see way too many newbies suddenly joining DU Nyan May 2016 #84
Nagging for Dollars? AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #40
"Nopeing for Dollars" warrprayer May 2016 #42
maybe we should call them "Notsies" AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #59
And the term 'Bernie Bros' is a slam against women supporters felix_numinous May 2016 #43
Bernie Bros have become irrelevant. leftofcool May 2016 #80
LBN still stands for Latest Bernie News. I would have locked this month old blog post in a... onehandle May 2016 #44
too funny yurbud May 2016 #48
Correct the record Geronimoe May 2016 #60
It does raise the question about how much they spent here on DU and who got paid Ford_Prefect May 2016 #62
She should spend some of that money on paying people to attend her rallies. jalan48 May 2016 #68
I just watched a biopic about John du Pont Doctor_J May 2016 #73
Great news. We need to push back everywhere the trolls are working. L. Coyote May 2016 #74
Now Gabriel plays piano Every Friday at the Hollywood... jtuck004 May 2016 #76
its getting harder beergood May 2016 #78
This thread is such a clear violation of LBN rules and yet it's still up. Kingofalldems May 2016 #93
If Hillary has to pay people to say good things about her, it tells the whole story. eom zalinda May 2016 #99
But they were also paid to say bad things about Bernie TexasBushwhacker May 2016 #115
To correct people LOL bkkyosemite May 2016 #102
"correct" commenters??? Is that what this has been? I thought it was all about Kip Humphrey May 2016 #103
We deserve our next potus. Cassiopeia May 2016 #105
Money well spent, imo. How often does one have to hear demands that one justify supporting HRC... Hekate May 2016 #108
Are Bernie supporters incapable of reading? Beaverhausen May 2016 #109
What I want to know is... Hugin May 2016 #112
I'm curious how exactly are all the Clinton shills paid? earthmanneil May 2016 #113
No need to worry about paper trails. Debbie's got it covered. nt Nyan May 2016 #117
Hillary's trying to bully her way to the nomination. senz May 2016 #116
LOCKING THREAD DUE TO TIME LIMIT LostOne4Ever May 2016 #118
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