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In reply to the discussion: MoveOn says Clinton should be nominee [View all]Tarheel_Dem
(31,454 posts)62. Nate Silver: "Hillary Clinton Will Be Nominated Because More Democrats Are Voting For Her"
"Its an emblematically annoying ending to the Democratic campaign, one that reflects both the acrimony between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders and the fact that Clinton, in the end, is winning her partys nomination by every available measure."
"In a statement released after the APs call, the Sanders campaign argued that the media is wrong to declare Clinton the presumptive nominee by including superdelegates, correctly pointing out that superdelegates can change their vote up until the convention, as several dozen superdelegates did in flipping from Clinton to Barack Obama in 2008. FiveThirtyEights pledged delegate count, which does not include superdelegates, has Clinton with 1,8111 pledged delegates to 1,526 for Sanders. The Sanders campaign said its job from now until the convention is to convince superdelegates that Bernie is by far the strongest candidate against Donald Trump."
"But Sanderss statement and the APs call distract from the larger point. Clinton will be the Democratic nominee because substantially more Democrats have voted for her. In addition to her elected delegate majority, shes received approximately 13.5 million votes so far in primaries and caucuses, compared with 10.5 million for Sanders."
"There also isnt much sign of forward momentum for Sanders, after a strong run of contests in late March and early April. Over the past seven weeks, from the New York primary on April 19 through Puerto Rico on Sunday, Clinton has won 505 pledged delegates compared with 428 for Sanders. Her current lead in our national polling average, 14.4 percentage points, is the widest it has been since mid-February."
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/hillary-clinton-clinches-democratic-nomination-according-to-ap/
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Actually Moveon elites decided to say this after 70 percent on the site voted to endorse him
DemMomma4Sanders
Jun 2016
#26
If they make a statement contradictory to their members ideals w/o taking a vote,
DemMomma4Sanders
Jun 2016
#29
You do realize endorsing Sanders and believing in math are not mutually exclusive, right?
SunSeeker
Jun 2016
#43
The math shows Sanders has a clear majority where primaries were open to independants and greens
DemMomma4Sanders
Jun 2016
#46
This was the Dem primary, not the Green primary. The Greens have a closed primary.
SunSeeker
Jun 2016
#56
Thats an online survey, and doesn't even mention the fact that reuters faithfull readers
DemMomma4Sanders
Jun 2016
#57
What does "lead left" even mean? REUTERS is an International Agency w/a FRENCH focus, fwiw....
MADem
Jun 2016
#68
Well, poor old NPR has been leaning right ever since GW BUSH seeded the management with
MADem
Jun 2016
#70
NPR has always been pro-business......Just like the democrats who voted for the bailout
DemMomma4Sanders
Jun 2016
#71
No, that shift happened very clearly during the Bush years when they removed a lot of
MADem
Jun 2016
#72
Reuters is an international news agency, calling it a paper just shows my age.
DemMomma4Sanders
Jun 2016
#77
Imagine....Democrats supporting Democrats. See you at the meetings, with the Party elite. nt
msanthrope
Jun 2016
#36
Bernie has voted more along those lines than Hillary, Iraq and all ya know
DemMomma4Sanders
Jun 2016
#39
its not a blow at all, but he is responsible to his followers, not media honking
larkrake
Jun 2016
#54
Susan, many Bernie supporters are willing to deal with the reality that the majority of
Nitram
Jun 2016
#9
Nate Silver: "Hillary Clinton Will Be Nominated Because More Democrats Are Voting For Her"
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2016
#62
Move on elitist owners did, meanwhile members voted 70% to endorse Sanders
DemMomma4Sanders
Jun 2016
#41
Clinton actually won 13 open primaries to Sanders 10 and 4 of the mixed primaries to Sanders 3
Agnosticsherbet
Jun 2016
#48
Clinton won open primaries after turnout dropped, and not by large percentages.
DemMomma4Sanders
Jun 2016
#51
Too late to get anymore support from me and I was one of the very early members.
upaloopa
Jun 2016
#5
Of course MoveOn backed Bernie. Bernie is liberal. Hillary is owned by Goldman Sachs
Herman4747
Jun 2016
#63