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68. Its difficult to prove a negative

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 07:52 PM

Jun 2016

Like how many more terrorist attacks with guns there would have been already in France without their gun laws? If you go by killings with firearms per capita, outside of terrorism, and compare that to USA figures, it indicates that gun control works better than not.

No one is saying that bad people may not still do everything they can to acquire guns even with the strictest gun controls. But if you make it as difficult as possible, you are reducing the possibilities. Also other parts of the equation is that there are simply less guns, legal and illegal floating around in a country to be stolen or sold. And also that law enforcement can isolate and focus more on specialized smuggling operations.

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Congress Is �Complicit� In Orlando Slaughter, Senator Says [View all] Stuart G Jun 2016 OP

Senator Murphy is absolutely right. Squinch Jun 2016 #1

I concur, Squinch. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #3

I agree. nt brer cat Jun 2016 #34

Supreme Court Decision on 2nd Amendment askeptic Jun 2016 #2

Local new says he had a state firearm license and a security guard license Mojorabbit Jun 2016 #4

It's completely absurd, but your post got alerted on A HERETIC I AM Jun 2016 #9

Well someone can't alert Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #27

Wow! I guess demagogue-ing the issue raises more money askeptic Jun 2016 #44

The 18th amendment was repealed MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #10

The amendment itself is not creating violence. Indydem Jun 2016 #21

Then it goes back to the states Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #28

Almost right, it's the Supreme Court's interpretation that counts. charliea Jun 2016 #61

He is absolutely right mcar Jun 2016 #5

As a Private Security Guard One_Life_To_Give Jun 2016 #6

You tell them Senator Murphy! KPN Jun 2016 #7

According to Raw Story, the shooter's father says two guys kissing set him off. Archae Jun 2016 #8

The shooter is part of a society, and society is to blame, culture is to blame, schools are to blame L. Coyote Jun 2016 #13

The shooters decisions were his and his alone. beevul Jun 2016 #17

If you say so. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #19

Ok. Whats your part of the responsiblity...? beevul Jun 2016 #20

As US citizens we can absolutely be held responsible for not making this a priority justiceischeap Jun 2016 #23

Explain to me... beevul Jun 2016 #24

Sure, the perfect example is what happened on the day of Sandy Hook justiceischeap Jun 2016 #25

paris france beergood Jun 2016 #39

Its difficult to prove a negative LiberalLovinLug Jun 2016 #68

The shooter who owned an AR-15 is to blame. TNNurse Jun 2016 #58

Agreed. Civilians do not need assault rifles. Vinca Jun 2016 #11

Time to send the assault weapon supporters packing. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #12

One serious question... Archae Jun 2016 #15

Vote them out of Congress was my point. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #16

We could start SwankyXomb Jun 2016 #26

And ignore the Democratic platform Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #29

Every single senator and Congressperson with an NRA A+ rating is now an enemy. Initech Jun 2016 #14

Blood all over their money grubbing hands SwankyXomb Jun 2016 #53

I would make than anyone above an F rating. alarimer Jun 2016 #64

No arguments here! Fuck the NRA! Initech Jun 2016 #66

The truth will fall on deaf ears, as usual. tabasco Jun 2016 #18

Congress continues to sit on its hands and do nothing � again.� AlbertCat Jun 2016 #22

Assault weapons used to be banned mountain grammy Jun 2016 #30

There is a fundamental flaw in that analysis hack89 Jun 2016 #49

Just a question...this freak had passed Fed NICS chks to get his gun clearances Nancyswidower Jun 2016 #31

why does ANYONE need an AR-15? Skittles Jun 2016 #43

Need...I don't believe that is a standard requirement for any "Right" Nancyswidower Jun 2016 #45

ALRIGHTY THEN Skittles Jun 2016 #46

If you are making Rights a need issue..that's your fear. Nancyswidower Jun 2016 #47

We don't. But people want them. They are expensive toys, that can be lethal. Archae Jun 2016 #60

Perhaps Some Of The "Kill The Gays" Rhetoric From Jeezusland or Muzzlimland Got To Him scottie55 Jun 2016 #32

"Buddhists don't kill anyone for any reason." beergood Jun 2016 #40

Let me guess; they'll say "they aren't real Buddhists." greyl Jun 2016 #55

Why does any law abiding citizen need an AR-15 with a clip that spews 30 rounds without reloading? catbyte Jun 2016 #33

Good post, catbyte. brer cat Jun 2016 #35

What is so special about an AR-15 that it needs more restrictions ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #38

I wasn't specifically targeting that particular model & I think you know that. catbyte Jun 2016 #62

And yet you did exactly that. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #63

So you want me to list every fucking semiautomatic, multiple clip weapon in a short message? Don't catbyte Jun 2016 #65

If you meant to say ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #67

I entirely agree. dickthegrouch Jun 2016 #36

sorry , a little bored and playing around with the reply functions. beergood Jun 2016 #41

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #52

Wow. tarheelsunc Jun 2016 #37

He's not supposed to call it an "epidemic" of gun violence LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2016 #42

The only people complicit in this is the shooter and his IS buddies. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #48

Not entirely true. bvar22 Jun 2016 #50

Guess who I've been wanting as the VP on the Democratic ticket this year for awhile? ButterflyBlood Jun 2016 #51

Nonsense. David__77 Jun 2016 #54

LOCKING THREAD AS ANALYSIS/OPINION (Lock-Retracted) LostOne4Ever Jun 2016 #56

UNLOCKING THREAD LostOne4Ever Jun 2016 #57

Damn right, congress is complicit. TryLogic Jun 2016 #59