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25. Private land isn't much better. My father in law forbids us from....

Mon Jan 2, 2012, 12:31 AM

Jan 2012

.... hiking/walking the dog on their back acreage during the season. He says the hunters are always "slipping under the wire."

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Cops: Norton woman, 66, accidentally shot by hunter [View all] sasha031 Jan 2012 OP

Hunter who shot Norton woman in apparent accident is a state trooper bluedigger Jan 2012 #1

they always get away with it sasha031 Jan 2012 #3

In Pennsylvania any such shooting is manslaughter... happyslug Jan 2012 #13

Actually there is intent to kill and harm. Marnie Jan 2012 #15

Issue is LEGAL intent as defined under the law happyslug Jan 2012 #22

Yes, there are fixed hours of hunting, tied to the available daylight. AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #27

At least he is well trained in the use of firearms, and, as it turns out panzerfaust Jan 2012 #31

My eyes, my eyes... ellisonz Jan 2012 #75

Deer savages. An overpowering bloodlust for deer is dangerous to others. Kingofalldems Jan 2012 #2

+1 bahrbearian Jan 2012 #5

+1 k/r sasha031 Jan 2012 #7

+1. Peregrine Took Jan 2012 #19

+1 Politicub Jan 2012 #67

Negligence -- not an accident. The hunter clearly did not indentify the target. aikoaiko Jan 2012 #4

Jeff Cooper would be proud of you ... BOHICA12 Jan 2012 #20

+100 ..Basic shooting rules. He knew better. nt Mojorabbit Jan 2012 #28

as a deer hunter and dog owner his story is b.s. Botany Jan 2012 #33

Good Rules. Remember To Post Them Down In The Guns/RKBA Group Site...... Paladin Jan 2012 #40

He was negligent, not sight-impaired- so what's your point? friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #42

Think About It Real Hard---It'll Come To You...... (n/t) Paladin Jan 2012 #48

Will do because these rules apply to people with 20/20 vision or impaired vision. aikoaiko Jan 2012 #46

There are safe and easy accommodations to allow sight-impaired persons petronius Jan 2012 #53

I Rest My Case. (n/t) Paladin Jan 2012 #56

Indeed you do. Although it's unfortunate to see a case for discrimination against the disabled petronius Jan 2012 #58

I would have a hard time saying a person should be able to carry concealed ... moriah Jan 2012 #74

+100 n/t moriah Jan 2012 #73

How the hell do you mistake a woman for a deer??? proud2BlibKansan Jan 2012 #6

Well, it was around 5pm masshole Jan 2012 #8

The reports are being careful about the time. aikoaiko Jan 2012 #9

That's the part I don't get - 30 minutes after sunset? hedgehog Jan 2012 #50

There is usually a decent amount of light after technical sunset. aikoaiko Jan 2012 #52

Thanks for the clarification! hedgehog Jan 2012 #54

Perhaps he was watching the time, knowing the season was over in ~20 minutes, petronius Jan 2012 #10

You don't give a damn. Marnie Jan 2012 #16

That's why I never hunt on public land. Dr_Scholl Jan 2012 #23

Private land isn't much better. My father in law forbids us from.... Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2012 #25

"6. How the hell do you mistake a woman for a deer???;" greiner3 Jan 2012 #71

I would expect a state trooper to be more careful than your average hunter. WHEN CRABS ROAR Jan 2012 #11

Careful, nah. More arrogant? I'd bet on it. izquierdista Jan 2012 #12

How do you spot a target after sunset unless you are using a night vision or infrared scope? Marnie Jan 2012 #14

Many (most?) states run time time limits of ManiacJoe Jan 2012 #18

Sunset =/= dark. PavePusher Jan 2012 #47

Using the Dick Cheney precedent, the 66-year-old woman should apologize to the hunter. tclambert Jan 2012 #17

+1 Charlemagne Jan 2012 #24

We often see sneaky deer walking dogs here. Crafty bastards. n/t dimbear Jan 2012 #21

She must have had some large dog.... Historic NY Jan 2012 #26

You might want to harden your bedroom walls and window. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2012 #41

The woman and the hunter are neighbors and well known to each other canoeist52 Jan 2012 #29

Normally I'm 100+% on the side of an accidental shooting victim but Ineeda Jan 2012 #30

No, she bears no responsibility unless she was dressed in a really good deer costume. Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #38

see my post #43 - she was walking on her own property - not a "hunting reserve" UpInArms Jan 2012 #44

That's true. Ineeda Jan 2012 #49

maybe she should apoligize to the hunter for getting in the way of the bullet sasha031 Jan 2012 #55

it is always the responsibility of the gun handler roguevalley Jan 2012 #65

Orange Vests save lives BOHICA12 Jan 2012 #32

LOL. Yes, everybody in the vicinity of hunting areas should wear orange vests. tabasco Jan 2012 #34

Sometimes you need bells, whistles, flashing lights & sirens... Historic NY Jan 2012 #35

why should the victim be responsible for someone else's negligence? fascisthunter Jan 2012 #36

Like seat belts, vests give you a better opportunity to survive someone's stupidity. BOHICA12 Jan 2012 #39

Except as light fades, color vision fades. Marnie Jan 2012 #62

The florescent orange of a hunting vest - will stand out well past .... BOHICA12 Jan 2012 #69

If she'd been carrying her own gun, she could've protected herself. Bucky Jan 2012 #37

update: Kin want probe in mom�s shooting UpInArms Jan 2012 #43

They really are rushing to say its not a crime. aikoaiko Jan 2012 #51

That was my feeling yesterday when I heard there would be no charges. chelsea0011 Jan 2012 #59

Speaking of Maine. Marnie Jan 2012 #63

not in Maine magical thyme Jan 2012 #72

at her age this could be a desth sentence roguevalley Jan 2012 #66

Dick Cheney strikes again? tawadi Jan 2012 #45

I'd say such negligence is deserving of jail time, aye? octothorpe Jan 2012 #57

This makes me sick BobbyBoring Jan 2012 #60

My understanding is that the bullet broke her hip; the trooper will be sued civilly JenniferJuniper Jan 2012 #61

There are dumbass hunters who will shoot at anything that moves. RebelOne Jan 2012 #64

Deer hunters frequently seem to be unhinged Politicub Jan 2012 #68

Your first point is exactly right. I and every one of my friends who hunt are fanatical about safet Fourier Jan 2012 #70

Locking, does not meet criteria for LBN, feel free to repost in Guns or the state forum. Thanks! Rhiannon12866 Jan 2012 #76