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nini

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114. She was present at the Tate murders and watched all that go down
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 12:06 PM
Sep 2017

She then decided that must have been fun and then took part in the LaBianca murders. Now normal people would have been completely freaked out at the Tate events and ran for the hills, yet she went back for more - then took part.

"Van Houten stalked into the house of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca and participated in Rosemary's murder, stabbing her approximately 16 times"
https://www.biography.com/people/leslie-van-houten-20900729


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Van_Houten

Snippet: Van Houten then held LaBianca down while Krenwinkel tried to stab her in the chest, but the blade bent on LaBianca's clavicle. Van Houten called for assistance from Watson, who entered the bedroom and stabbed Rosemary LaBianca several times. He then found Van Houten, handed her the knife, and told her to "do something" (since Manson had instructed Watson to make sure everyone actively participated). Van Houten stabbed Rosemary's lower back and buttocks over a dozen times. Van Houten later told Dianne Lake that she had stabbed someone who was already dead. The autopsy indicated that some of the 47 stab wounds Rosemary suffered had been inflicted post-mortem.[3][18][33]

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Whether LaBianca was already dead at that point does not dismiss the insanity of what she did and who can say really who gave the blows that actually killed her - she still did what she did. There is a fundamental mental problem with people who go to that level in crimes and that doesn't go away. There are just some things so vile I don't agree to parole on. She'll get out this time I'd guess and let's hope she proves me wrong.

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here's a link, no story yet uppityperson Sep 2017 #1
Governor Jerry Brown will be the one to decide whether she should be released from prison after 40 still_one Sep 2017 #2
Brown rejected her release last year. LenaBaby61 Sep 2017 #60
I wouldn't even venture a guess what he will do still_one Sep 2017 #61
Good, it's time janterry Sep 2017 #3
"It's time"? For a very sick and twisted murder, complete with post-mortem atrocities? Don't bother WinkyDink Sep 2017 #5
Yes janterry Sep 2017 #6
Do we believe in justice and mercy... yallerdawg Sep 2017 #9
Justice & mercy are not always interchangeable. 7962 Sep 2017 #15
A message? yallerdawg Sep 2017 #20
Ok in order to reduce prison populations, let's release low level drug offenders... Lucky Luciano Sep 2017 #28
I've got a better idea Major Nikon Sep 2017 #30
Yes, this is true. mountain grammy Sep 2017 #49
Possibly Major Nikon Sep 2017 #53
And that too. So very true. mountain grammy Sep 2017 #54
Yep nt duhneece Sep 2017 #72
The purpose of prison is not just to protect society. It's for punishment. Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #56
The purpose of prison is just to protect society Major Nikon Sep 2017 #66
Actually, no. The purposes of prison include accountability for a crime. Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #69
Accountability protects society Major Nikon Sep 2017 #73
agree.. mountain grammy Sep 2017 #74
The prison population has nothing to do with releasing murderers. 7962 Sep 2017 #91
Yea, crazy people evaluate parole periods and jail time when deciding to murder someone. FFS! n/t USALiberal Sep 2017 #33
She wasn't crazy. Just evil. nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #57
40 years in prison from age 20 treestar Sep 2017 #106
No longer being a danger isnt the point. Murderers of this type shouldnt get out. 7962 Sep 2017 #120
It's called punishment and justice for a reason. There's no correcting what she did. Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #55
What we now know about brain development and the lack of consequential ... duhneece Sep 2017 #71
I agree. BigDemVoter Sep 2017 #63
She's 68. Her term was life WITH the possibility of parole, not life without parole Warpy Sep 2017 #34
Actually I think she got the death penalty leftynyc Sep 2017 #95
She also had more than one trial Warpy Sep 2017 #102
Yeah, when you hang a pregnant woman from the ceiling and cut the child out of her body, just fer Midnight Writer Sep 2017 #78
I am pretty sure that didn't happen. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #81
You are right. She had been dragged around by the noose around her neck, her breast was removed, Midnight Writer Sep 2017 #83
No - she wasn't there for the Tate murders leftynyc Sep 2017 #96
first, she wasn't there Warpy Sep 2017 #87
You're thinking of Susan Atkins treestar Sep 2017 #107
Looks like people dont care how absolutely heinous those murders were nini Sep 2017 #86
Look up some of the crime scene photos nini Sep 2017 #76
I agree Skittles Sep 2017 #79
Story true. But Brown will put the kibosh on the parole. WinkyDink Sep 2017 #4
The goal of the Manson family was to start a race war ripcord Sep 2017 #7
What Manson Started aeromanKC Sep 2017 #23
Calling it sympathy is a wingnut talking point and intellectually bankrupt Major Nikon Sep 2017 #39
He said he wanted to start a race war. But seems like jealousy & revenge were part of it. Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #58
I don't know. But... dawn frenzy adams Sep 2017 #8
These days, the opposite would probably happen. 7962 Sep 2017 #17
This is why I still support the Death Penalty FLPanhandle Sep 2017 #10
And thats exactly what is already starting to happen; 7962 Sep 2017 #18
I would support the death penalty for Manson BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #19
OK, so some deserve it and some don't, I get it. n/t USALiberal Sep 2017 #37
What happens when they catch on to your plan? ProgressiveValue Sep 2017 #46
That is what happened to one of those female murderers. BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #48
Meanwhile Norway did away with both with far greater success Major Nikon Sep 2017 #32
Norway is a tiny country with a low crime rate. Very different. Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #59
Kinda like saying the answer to a concussion problem is to get bigger bats Major Nikon Sep 2017 #65
No. It's because it's a tiny country w/o a big crime problem. Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #68
By crime index they are 47th compared to 44th for the US Major Nikon Sep 2017 #70
Norway, where Anders Behring Breivik customerserviceguy Sep 2017 #67
Seriously? leftynyc Sep 2017 #97
I was being facetious customerserviceguy Sep 2017 #98
Agree leftynyc Sep 2017 #101
We can both agree on both points. n/t customerserviceguy Sep 2017 #126
Wow, I guess you admire the other countries who love the DP? China and Iran are the top 2! Congrats. USALiberal Sep 2017 #36
Don't forget Saudi Arabia Major Nikon Sep 2017 #40
I wouldnt make US law based on what other countries do or dont do. 7962 Sep 2017 #121
Death is too dignified for monsters. Xolodno Sep 2017 #84
It's purely political. Jake Stern Sep 2017 #11
Boooo! applegrove Sep 2017 #12
Is she still dangerous? (n/t) forgotmylogin Sep 2017 #13
she hasn't been dangerous for over 40 years Skittles Sep 2017 #80
She has been in prison for nearly 50 years. madaboutharry Sep 2017 #14
I totally agree. n/t Chemisse Sep 2017 #47
Only she should get parole. MFM008 Sep 2017 #16
OJ was convicted for armed robbery. He was acquitted Drahthaardogs Sep 2017 #89
I know MFM008 Sep 2017 #117
Yes, but still Drahthaardogs Sep 2017 #119
Didn't she get parole last year and Brown turned it down? LeftInTX Sep 2017 #21
If he did it was an act of mercy. PatrickforO Sep 2017 #25
s to let the Parole Board do their job obamanut2012 Sep 2017 #22
Well, she's 67 and has made no contribution to Social Security. PatrickforO Sep 2017 #24
No, she won't janterry Sep 2017 #26
She could make good money on the speaker curcuit FLPanhandle Sep 2017 #31
Hmm. I guess I'm a bleeding heart. PatrickforO Sep 2017 #35
They did get the death penalty in 1971, but the US Supreme Court ruled the death penalty Midwestern Democrat Sep 2017 #45
I remember those days, though I was young. NO ONE who was remotely normal... Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #62
I don't think any of us can say treestar Sep 2017 #110
Yes, I can. I KNOW for a fact that I would never ever NEVER EVER harm or kill anyone... Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #123
she should do anti-drug PSA's n/t SethH Sep 2017 #38
She could do all that from jail treestar Sep 2017 #109
Aren't there laws preventing criminals from profiting from books, etc. about their crimes? LongTomH Sep 2017 #113
She'll be fine. Books, speaking engagements but JenniferJuniper Sep 2017 #42
I knew her brother a long time ago in LA . sweet man. fierywoman Sep 2017 #52
WOW.... LovingA2andMI Sep 2017 #27
What do you mean, Aunt Leslie's coming to visit ? eppur_se_muova Sep 2017 #29
She murdered someone in cold blood and in my opinion should serve Life in Prison/no parole iluvtennis Sep 2017 #41
16 stab wounds if I remember correctly nini Sep 2017 #77
Pic... WhoWoodaKnew Sep 2017 #43
Degrees from Charles Manson spike jones Sep 2017 #44
She's been in prison for almost 50 years. She'll never murder again. Set her free. argyl Sep 2017 #50
He'll defer to the parole board. Which he shouldn't do, IMO. She should die in prison. nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #51
Try explaining this to the Pennsylvania inmate........ mrmpa Sep 2017 #64
Parole boards exist for a reason. Gore1FL Sep 2017 #75
The degree of cold-blooded and heartless PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #82
Let me get this straight nini Sep 2017 #85
+++ Agree with you. Guess I'm vengeful and heartless also in this instance. nt iluvtennis Sep 2017 #88
Let me get this straight. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #99
To be clear nini Sep 2017 #100
LVH had nothing to do with the Tate murders obamanut2012 Sep 2017 #108
She was present at the Tate murders and watched all that go down nini Sep 2017 #114
Can you point that out in the law? ProgressiveValue Sep 2017 #94
You are right that in the eyes of the law PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #103
Still a consideration treestar Sep 2017 #111
I am all for rehabilitation and parole but not in this case. This was a crime(s) of crazy chelsea0011 Sep 2017 #90
Exactly my view nini Sep 2017 #115
There is something seriously wrong with the make up of a person Jarqui Sep 2017 #92
good record of behavior in prison, IMO she has earned parole. Sunlei Sep 2017 #93
Fuck her SHRED Sep 2017 #104
Thanks for that link nini Sep 2017 #116
Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #125
They should let her out treestar Sep 2017 #105
"Thanks for subnmitting your resume, Ms. Van Houten..." brooklynite Sep 2017 #112
120 days? Turbineguy Sep 2017 #118
The Quality of Mercy is not strained... maxsolomon Sep 2017 #122
I hope he ellie Sep 2017 #124
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