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115. Exactly my view

Reply to chelsea0011 (Reply #90)

Thu Sep 7, 2017, 12:07 PM

Sep 2017

This was no run of the mill murder here.

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Charles Manson follower Leslie Van Houten granted parole by California board [View all] freddyvh Sep 2017 OP

here's a link, no story yet uppityperson Sep 2017 #1

Governor Jerry Brown will be the one to decide whether she should be released from prison after 40 still_one Sep 2017 #2

Brown rejected her release last year. LenaBaby61 Sep 2017 #60

I wouldn't even venture a guess what he will do still_one Sep 2017 #61

Good, it's time janterry Sep 2017 #3

"It's time"? For a very sick and twisted murder, complete with post-mortem atrocities? Don't bother WinkyDink Sep 2017 #5

Yes janterry Sep 2017 #6

Do we believe in justice and mercy... yallerdawg Sep 2017 #9

Justice & mercy are not always interchangeable. 7962 Sep 2017 #15

A message? yallerdawg Sep 2017 #20

Ok in order to reduce prison populations, let's release low level drug offenders... Lucky Luciano Sep 2017 #28

I've got a better idea Major Nikon Sep 2017 #30

Yes, this is true. mountain grammy Sep 2017 #49

Possibly Major Nikon Sep 2017 #53

And that too. So very true. mountain grammy Sep 2017 #54

Yep nt duhneece Sep 2017 #72

The purpose of prison is not just to protect society. It's for punishment. Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #56

The purpose of prison is just to protect society Major Nikon Sep 2017 #66

Actually, no. The purposes of prison include accountability for a crime. Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #69

Accountability protects society Major Nikon Sep 2017 #73

agree.. mountain grammy Sep 2017 #74

The prison population has nothing to do with releasing murderers. 7962 Sep 2017 #91

Yea, crazy people evaluate parole periods and jail time when deciding to murder someone. FFS! n/t USALiberal Sep 2017 #33

She wasn't crazy. Just evil. nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #57

40 years in prison from age 20 treestar Sep 2017 #106

No longer being a danger isnt the point. Murderers of this type shouldnt get out. 7962 Sep 2017 #120

It's called punishment and justice for a reason. There's no correcting what she did. Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #55

What we now know about brain development and the lack of consequential ... duhneece Sep 2017 #71

I agree. BigDemVoter Sep 2017 #63

She's 68. Her term was life WITH the possibility of parole, not life without parole Warpy Sep 2017 #34

Actually I think she got the death penalty leftynyc Sep 2017 #95

She also had more than one trial Warpy Sep 2017 #102

Yeah, when you hang a pregnant woman from the ceiling and cut the child out of her body, just fer Midnight Writer Sep 2017 #78

I am pretty sure that didn't happen. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #81

You are right. She had been dragged around by the noose around her neck, her breast was removed, Midnight Writer Sep 2017 #83

No - she wasn't there for the Tate murders leftynyc Sep 2017 #96

first, she wasn't there Warpy Sep 2017 #87

You're thinking of Susan Atkins treestar Sep 2017 #107

Looks like people dont care how absolutely heinous those murders were nini Sep 2017 #86

Look up some of the crime scene photos nini Sep 2017 #76

I agree Skittles Sep 2017 #79

Story true. But Brown will put the kibosh on the parole. WinkyDink Sep 2017 #4

The goal of the Manson family was to start a race war ripcord Sep 2017 #7

What Manson Started aeromanKC Sep 2017 #23

Calling it sympathy is a wingnut talking point and intellectually bankrupt Major Nikon Sep 2017 #39

He said he wanted to start a race war. But seems like jealousy & revenge were part of it. Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #58

I don't know. But... dawn frenzy adams Sep 2017 #8

These days, the opposite would probably happen. 7962 Sep 2017 #17

This is why I still support the Death Penalty FLPanhandle Sep 2017 #10

And thats exactly what is already starting to happen; 7962 Sep 2017 #18

I would support the death penalty for Manson BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #19

OK, so some deserve it and some don't, I get it. n/t USALiberal Sep 2017 #37

What happens when they catch on to your plan? ProgressiveValue Sep 2017 #46

That is what happened to one of those female murderers. BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #48

Meanwhile Norway did away with both with far greater success Major Nikon Sep 2017 #32

Norway is a tiny country with a low crime rate. Very different. Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #59

Kinda like saying the answer to a concussion problem is to get bigger bats Major Nikon Sep 2017 #65

No. It's because it's a tiny country w/o a big crime problem. Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #68

By crime index they are 47th compared to 44th for the US Major Nikon Sep 2017 #70

Norway, where Anders Behring Breivik customerserviceguy Sep 2017 #67

Seriously? leftynyc Sep 2017 #97

I was being facetious customerserviceguy Sep 2017 #98

Agree leftynyc Sep 2017 #101

We can both agree on both points. n/t customerserviceguy Sep 2017 #126

Wow, I guess you admire the other countries who love the DP? China and Iran are the top 2! Congrats. USALiberal Sep 2017 #36

Don't forget Saudi Arabia Major Nikon Sep 2017 #40

I wouldnt make US law based on what other countries do or dont do. 7962 Sep 2017 #121

Death is too dignified for monsters. Xolodno Sep 2017 #84

It's purely political. Jake Stern Sep 2017 #11

Boooo! applegrove Sep 2017 #12

Is she still dangerous? (n/t) forgotmylogin Sep 2017 #13

she hasn't been dangerous for over 40 years Skittles Sep 2017 #80

She has been in prison for nearly 50 years. madaboutharry Sep 2017 #14

I totally agree. n/t Chemisse Sep 2017 #47

Only she should get parole. MFM008 Sep 2017 #16

OJ was convicted for armed robbery. He was acquitted Drahthaardogs Sep 2017 #89

I know MFM008 Sep 2017 #117

Yes, but still Drahthaardogs Sep 2017 #119

Didn't she get parole last year and Brown turned it down? LeftInTX Sep 2017 #21

If he did it was an act of mercy. PatrickforO Sep 2017 #25

s to let the Parole Board do their job obamanut2012 Sep 2017 #22

Well, she's 67 and has made no contribution to Social Security. PatrickforO Sep 2017 #24

No, she won't janterry Sep 2017 #26

She could make good money on the speaker curcuit FLPanhandle Sep 2017 #31

Hmm. I guess I'm a bleeding heart. PatrickforO Sep 2017 #35

They did get the death penalty in 1971, but the US Supreme Court ruled the death penalty Midwestern Democrat Sep 2017 #45

I remember those days, though I was young. NO ONE who was remotely normal... Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #62

I don't think any of us can say treestar Sep 2017 #110

Yes, I can. I KNOW for a fact that I would never ever NEVER EVER harm or kill anyone... Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #123

she should do anti-drug PSA's n/t SethH Sep 2017 #38

She could do all that from jail treestar Sep 2017 #109

Aren't there laws preventing criminals from profiting from books, etc. about their crimes? LongTomH Sep 2017 #113

She'll be fine. Books, speaking engagements but JenniferJuniper Sep 2017 #42

I knew her brother a long time ago in LA . sweet man. fierywoman Sep 2017 #52

WOW.... LovingA2andMI Sep 2017 #27

What do you mean, Aunt Leslie's coming to visit ? eppur_se_muova Sep 2017 #29

She murdered someone in cold blood and in my opinion should serve Life in Prison/no parole iluvtennis Sep 2017 #41

16 stab wounds if I remember correctly nini Sep 2017 #77

Pic... WhoWoodaKnew Sep 2017 #43

Degrees from Charles Manson spike jones Sep 2017 #44

She's been in prison for almost 50 years. She'll never murder again. Set her free. argyl Sep 2017 #50

He'll defer to the parole board. Which he shouldn't do, IMO. She should die in prison. nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #51

Try explaining this to the Pennsylvania inmate........ mrmpa Sep 2017 #64

Parole boards exist for a reason. Gore1FL Sep 2017 #75

The degree of cold-blooded and heartless PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #82

Let me get this straight nini Sep 2017 #85

+++ Agree with you. Guess I'm vengeful and heartless also in this instance. nt iluvtennis Sep 2017 #88

Let me get this straight. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #99

To be clear nini Sep 2017 #100

LVH had nothing to do with the Tate murders obamanut2012 Sep 2017 #108

She was present at the Tate murders and watched all that go down nini Sep 2017 #114

Can you point that out in the law? ProgressiveValue Sep 2017 #94

You are right that in the eyes of the law PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #103

Still a consideration treestar Sep 2017 #111

I am all for rehabilitation and parole but not in this case. This was a crime(s) of crazy chelsea0011 Sep 2017 #90

Exactly my view nini Sep 2017 #115

There is something seriously wrong with the make up of a person Jarqui Sep 2017 #92

good record of behavior in prison, IMO she has earned parole. Sunlei Sep 2017 #93

Fuck her SHRED Sep 2017 #104

Thanks for that link nini Sep 2017 #116

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #125

They should let her out treestar Sep 2017 #105

"Thanks for subnmitting your resume, Ms. Van Houten..." brooklynite Sep 2017 #112

120 days? Turbineguy Sep 2017 #118

The Quality of Mercy is not strained... maxsolomon Sep 2017 #122

I hope he ellie Sep 2017 #124