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39. If Spacey was as drunk as he says, he probably wasn't physically capable of ...

Mon Oct 30, 2017, 09:20 AM

Oct 2017

... actually having sex with anybody ...

And I think I saw a post elsewhere that there was a scene in the play that Rapp was appearing in where the same sort of situation was enacted ... with him as the "victim" ...

As an aside... when I was about 13, the orchestra teacher at my middle school was prone to fondling the butts of boys who came within range... I didn't know about it until I got the "feel", after which I avoided him... which was too bad because it meant that I never tried to learn an instrument at that time... As far as I know, nobody ever complained about this creepy guy, though, and he was still in his position when I graduated and moved on to high school. In his case, this wasn't a case of him being drunk or him being unaware of his actions, and it was a serial activity. And I don't know if he ever took his touching further... but I still remember his name.

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Kevin Spacey Responds To Report He Sexually Harassed Then-14-Year-Old Anthony Rapp [View all] Loyd Oct 2017 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Oct 2017 #1

Saddens and maddens me to hear this news. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #2

Does anyone Boilingpots Oct 2017 #18

Welcome to DU! IronLionZion Oct 2017 #30

WRONG- The story is he was 26 years old, grabbed a 14 year old and climbed on top of him snooper2 Oct 2017 #38

Are you serious? I mean, really. This is pathetic. yardwork Oct 2017 #46

it's spin. yurbud Oct 2017 #58

Agreed. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #68

I don't think anyone cares he is gay. MosheFeingold Oct 2017 #56

That's the point... the fact that Spacey is gay is irrelevant to whether he attempted child rape. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #69

I disagree. He knows conservative media will pounce on & try to blame, the gayness Crash2Parties Oct 2017 #59

Guts? Yea, he validated the victims claim rather than gaslight and deny, or shame. That is all. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #77

Think Louis CK will be next Not Ruth Oct 2017 #3

As gay or a child abuser? IronLionZion Oct 2017 #31

Neither, likes to masturbate with young (adult) female comics Not Ruth Oct 2017 #36

Watch this trailer, especially the last line,and tell me this is not a giant wink and fuck off world Not Ruth Oct 2017 #42

Yup. Long rumored to be a perv. gldstwmn Oct 2017 #71

Yeah in this climate anyone could go down next lol Kimchijeon Oct 2017 #83

My, my! things seem to be unraveling in Hollywood! Lokilooney Oct 2017 #4

How disappointing. MontanaMama Oct 2017 #5

No, he isn't a child molester. Chicago1980 Oct 2017 #26

A drunken advance is child molestation Kaleva Oct 2017 #37

Attacking a fourteen year old is way beyond making a sexual advance. yardwork Oct 2017 #47

Pinned him down on a bed 14 yrs old escaped and that's not an advance or pass or an adult lunasun Oct 2017 #78

Im a huge Spacey fan, I think his response secondwind Oct 2017 #6

Me, too. Everyone does something they regret in life and booze is the great enabler. Vinca Oct 2017 #16

Spacey most likely was sober when he invited the then 14 year old to the party Kaleva Oct 2017 #28

You have no way of knowing or not knowing unless you were with him. Vinca Oct 2017 #70

I'm not going to be an apologist for those who prey on children. Kaleva Oct 2017 #73

It's nice to know there is one person in the world who never got drunk and made a mistake when Vinca Oct 2017 #75

I agree with you on that! eom Kimchijeon Oct 2017 #82

There's millions of us who didn't molest children no matter how drunk we were Kaleva Oct 2017 #86

When I was in 5th grade an older boy pulled up my shirt and exposed my breasts. Vinca Oct 2017 #88

Spacey was 26 at the time he allegedy molested a 14 year old. Kaleva Oct 2017 #92

And Spacey doesn't remember it because he was drunk. Vinca Oct 2017 #95

And how do we know that Anthony Rapp was the first, christx30 Oct 2017 #96

Child molestation is a very serious yet it doesn't seem like much to you. Kaleva Oct 2017 #97

What did I say in a previous post? If a pattern emerges I'll change my opinion. Vinca Oct 2017 #104

I'm more willing to give a child or teenager the benefit of the doubt. Kaleva Oct 2017 #106

I'm a lesbian mother of three and I'm disgusted by Spacey's tweet. yardwork Oct 2017 #48

Seen taking cover under the rainbow or hiding behind the rainbow. Yes disgisuting response by him lunasun Oct 2017 #80

Kevin Spacey is one of my favorite actors syringis Oct 2017 #7

Horrible get the red out Oct 2017 #8

Why invite a Scarsdale Oct 2017 #17

It's predatory behavior. yardwork Oct 2017 #49

Sounds like Rapp was hanging out with his friends. forgotmylogin Oct 2017 #101

And lots of people here are excusing it... Imagine if the name was Sean Hannity snooper2 Oct 2017 #40

Do you know something Scarsdale Oct 2017 #63

Everybody makes mistakes...it is good of Spacey cbdo2007 Oct 2017 #9

I've made it to my fifth decade withiut molesting a minor obamanut2012 Oct 2017 #10

He does not remember & it is only one person's say-so. But he apologized just in case. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #13

This is an example of the reason sexual assualt is to prevelant in Hollywood Evergreen Emerald Oct 2017 #24

+10000 NT EllieBC Oct 2017 #35

Yes, it is a problem. But more rumors were cited by another poster in-thread that are big problem Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #54

Just in case he assaulted a fourteen year old and doesn't remember? yardwork Oct 2017 #51

Apparently he may have been drunk at the time the alleged action occurred. But there are more allega Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #53

Drunk is no excuse Evergreen Emerald Oct 2017 #55

Correct. But it would explain (if true) the lack of memory of the incident (if it happened). . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #57

And it happened over 30 years ago TexasBushwhacker Oct 2017 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author LanternWaste Oct 2017 #52

Some of the Defenses Here.... LovingA2andMI Oct 2017 #72

I'm with you Phentex Oct 2017 #89

Thank you, I agree. I so cannot stand when people insist on making us all, that one. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #79

Inviting a 14 year old to a party where booze is served is just a mistake? Kaleva Oct 2017 #20

Shaking my head. yardwork Oct 2017 #50

Wtf? Spacey admitted to sexual assault of a child. Deb Oct 2017 #11

Wrong. He did not admit it. No judge would convict on this claim. But he apologized just in case. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #14

Throw him in jain for something that happened in 1986? Chicago1980 Oct 2017 #27

Apparently this sort of thing was an open secret Bradical79 Oct 2017 #12

IF that is true, it would be evidence unkown to me when I wrote my two previous posts. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #15

Bonjour Bernardo syringis Oct 2017 #19

Merci pour votre rponse. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #33

Thank you Bernardo syringis Oct 2017 #41

No need to translate. I understood it well. It was a fun exercise! Thanks :) Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #43

Understandable Bradical79 Oct 2017 #29

Why would an adult invite a 14 year old to a drinking party? Kaleva Oct 2017 #21

The kid was 14 years old!! Spacey is so popular that even DUers give him a pass. Evergreen Emerald Oct 2017 #22

Some of the comments in this thread astound me. Kaleva Oct 2017 #23

Yes. And prove the points the victims have been making. Evergreen Emerald Oct 2017 #25

The responses would be totally different ripcord Oct 2017 #45

Or if the man was a Republican. yardwork Oct 2017 #60

What about a 26 year old woman and a 14 year old boy? (n/t) thesquanderer Oct 2017 #62

Based on previous observations, there would be some posters saying how LisaL Oct 2017 #91

+1 get the red out Oct 2017 #34

Did he sexually assault the kid or not? IronLionZion Oct 2017 #32

If Spacey was as drunk as he says, he probably wasn't physically capable of ... Rollo Oct 2017 #39

Drunk people are capable of having sex. LisaL Oct 2017 #44

Depends on the person, the degree of inebriation, etc... Rollo Oct 2017 #66

Sexual assault can occur even if the people don't "have sex." (n/t) thesquanderer Oct 2017 #61

I was referring to sexual intercourse... Rollo Oct 2017 #64

Right, but Spacey wasn't accused of that... thesquanderer Oct 2017 #65

It would not be unreasonable to surmise... Rollo Oct 2017 #67

It's hardly the only possible reason. LisaL Oct 2017 #90

Could be, I don't know, I wasn't there. Rollo Oct 2017 #94

One can be blitzed and still be able to commit child molestation Kaleva Oct 2017 #74

Yes, but I was talking about intercourse/penetration, m'kay? Rollo Oct 2017 #81

Rapp said he carried him to his bed and laid on top of him TexasBushwhacker Oct 2017 #99

That's nice. Rollo Oct 2017 #100

Don't get me wrong. Rapp was underage TexasBushwhacker Oct 2017 #108

Well if the lawyer Rapp consulted was competent, and told him there was nothing actionable... Rollo Oct 2017 #109

I think he's a great actor too TexasBushwhacker Oct 2017 #112

I think his career just got thrown in the trash Watchfoxheadexplodes Oct 2017 #76

I think there is Netflix inside politics at play here... AntiFascist Oct 2017 #84

It's just the final nail in the coffin TexasBushwhacker Oct 2017 #98

Also... AntiFascist Oct 2017 #102

Hmmm, that's really kind of a compliment n/t TexasBushwhacker Oct 2017 #113

Some years back, a close friend suggested I learn to separate the art from the artist. LanternWaste Oct 2017 #85

Spacey is getting murdered by his LGBTQ colleagues in social media Not Ruth Oct 2017 #87

Spacey's in space at this point. truthisfreedom Oct 2017 #103

He's toast, career-wise. Codeine Oct 2017 #105

Thats my issue with this whole thing. Spaceys apology aside. Calista241 Oct 2017 #110

Spacey's infamous for this kind of behavior. Codeine Oct 2017 #111

coming out now is like OJ embracing the black community when he was accused of murder yurbud Oct 2017 #107