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LisaM

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17. So why wasn't he pointing this out in 2012? It's not that the Dems haven't lost seats. We have.

Thu Apr 5, 2018, 08:15 PM

Apr 2018

And there are a variety of factors involved, including the consolidation of media and vote suppression tactics that we should have been concerned about for a long time, not to mention Citizens United, which, if the so-called left hadn't demonized Al Gore so much in 2000, would never have become law because we would have had better justices.

No one is arguing those numbers. But right now, as Democrats actually have real momentum and are picking up seats, is not the time to start with the divide-and-conquer tactics.

The third-party candidates who are ostensibly from the left need to focus their attacks on conservatives. It made no sense that Jill Stein ran against Hillary, not Trump, nor that Nader ran against Gore, not Bush. We don't have a parliamentary system here where you can have parties form coalitions and alliances.

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he really is something Skittles Apr 2018 #1

Big snore - Yet another attack on Bernie - Boring left-of-center2012 Apr 2018 #2

"Another attack on Bernie"? Looks like another attack BY Bernie on the Democratic Party George II Apr 2018 #6

Yet another smug slam against Obama and the Democrats from Bernie. n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #9

and he is wrong about the loss of all those dem seats? dembotoz Apr 2018 #20

Bernie Virtually Wrote the 2016 Dem Platform! TomCADem Apr 2018 #22

Can we seriously argue with the numbers. Sophia4 Apr 2018 #3

yes Locrian Apr 2018 #7

Anyone ever think that his constant bashing of the Democratic Party might have contributed.... George II Apr 2018 #15

Yes! Lonestarblue Apr 2018 #23

So why wasn't he pointing this out in 2012? It's not that the Dems haven't lost seats. We have. LisaM Apr 2018 #17

He did say Obama should be Primaried JI7 Apr 2018 #26

Ignore Fox, Sinclair and Billions in RW Corp Media... TomCADem Apr 2018 #10

This is not thoughtful review it is it is a standard Bernie talking point. wasupaloopa Apr 2018 #13

I think the attacking comes more from him toward the Democratic Party than the other way around. George II Apr 2018 #18

Who is HE to be criticizing the Democratic Party? George II Apr 2018 #4

Who is he? Plucketeer Apr 2018 #29

Isnt he just telling it like it is? n/t secondwind Apr 2018 #5

Seems like he is admitting that he is a failure... TomCADem Apr 2018 #12

I am so tiredof hearing this from a man who has very little to show for his time in Congress. wasupaloopa Apr 2018 #8

So Sanders used an event marking the 50th anniversary of MLK's assassination DesertRat Apr 2018 #11

Yup, He Did Effectively Say That Obama... TomCADem Apr 2018 #14

We need unity and all Sanders does is incite division. DesertRat Apr 2018 #16

I know who is lacking substance Skittles Apr 2018 #19

Blah blah blah blah blah Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2018 #21

Personality Politics Roy Rolling Apr 2018 #24

Interesting. About half the people on this thread are looking at this as PatrickforO Apr 2018 #25

What,a ridiculous,statement GaryCnf Apr 2018 #27

Hard to argue with that shanny Apr 2018 #28

Christ almighty (in the cursing sense), I'm TIRED. slumcamper Apr 2018 #30