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Proletariatprincess

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1. Gallaway has a point.

Wed Aug 22, 2012, 01:30 PM

Aug 2012

I am a strong feminist and a great admirer of George Gallaway. I am also a supporter of Julian Assange and believe that these charges are a set up. Perhaps that colors my opinion on this issue, but I think not. I am sure she woke up when he proceeded to make love to her. If she said no, and he forced himself on her that could be rape. We don't know that is what happened. But rape charges seem obsurd in this case.

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George Galloway sacked as political columnist for rape remarks [View all] oberliner Aug 2012 OP

Gallaway has a point. Proletariatprincess Aug 2012 #1

No, he doesn't. You are incorrect about what constitutes rape. spooky3 Aug 2012 #3

except Galloway never "excused sex without consent" reorg Aug 2012 #25

An interlude of sleep does not constitute withdrawal of consent. If it did, we'd all be in jail. leveymg Aug 2012 #29

No, but consent granted conditional of a condom Kelvin Mace Aug 2012 #34

Rape isn't defined that way. Rape is coerced sex. Consensual sex without coercion is not rape. leveymg Aug 2012 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author TriplD Aug 2012 #38

So every time my girlfriend woke me up with a BJ I was being raped? TriplD Aug 2012 #39

Until you said, "yes. . . Yes. YES!" leveymg Aug 2012 #40

+1 AND apparently this "rape" charge occurred after the woman discovered he was sleeping with wordpix Aug 2012 #4

Why are you using Kelvin Mace Aug 2012 #6

Why are you using talking points reorg Aug 2012 #23

Gee, what talking points am I using? Kelvin Mace Aug 2012 #36

Sorry, I beg to differ... Kelvin Mace Aug 2012 #5

He put his dick in her without permission. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #13

They were sleeping in the same bed Scairp Aug 2012 #19

no, he took the condom off without her permission (allegedly) reorg Aug 2012 #22

My understand was he initiated a second encounter while she was unconscious. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #24

not sure what you mean by "encounter" reorg Aug 2012 #27

Here is an AFP story detailing the charges Kelvin Mace Aug 2012 #31

I think both of us have gotten off topic Scairp Aug 2012 #21

NO thread about Assange can be discussed reasonably on DU. randome Aug 2012 #26

I can agree with that N/T Scairp Aug 2012 #30

Or, if she has consented to sex only with the use of a condom Kelvin Mace Aug 2012 #33

No, he has no point. And, yes, your opinion is deeply colored. Behind the Aegis Aug 2012 #35

If you believe that women are the property of men Rabid_Rabbit Aug 2012 #2

Agreed.... Kelvin Mace Aug 2012 #7

Ditto that theHandpuppet Aug 2012 #17

Deleting my comment: I had not read fully what he implied newthinking Aug 2012 #8

Just re-read his comments. They were indeed innappropriate newthinking Aug 2012 #9

I wrote a reply before you edited muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #11

What Progressive statements; greiner3 Aug 2012 #10

I'm struggling to find a single progressive statement in your post muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #14

How will this be proven? Scairp Aug 2012 #18

It may or may not be provable muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #28

The scenario you describe might have validity Kelvin Mace Aug 2012 #16

I've read the report Scairp Aug 2012 #20

Galloway and Akin should form PR firm Freddie Stubbs Aug 2012 #12

I read the charges Scairp Aug 2012 #15

Please remember, there are no charges; only allegations. n/t tuvor Aug 2012 #42

Good! Behind the Aegis Aug 2012 #32

I admire George Galloway and I especially applaud his stand on the side of the victims of aggression Douglas Carpenter Aug 2012 #41