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6. I'm sorry, I consider myself an atheist, but I don't claim to KNOW there is no God
Thu May 10, 2018, 09:58 AM
May 2018

Last edited Thu May 10, 2018, 10:33 AM - Edit history (1)

The most common definitions of atheist / atheism don't include any qualifier about certainty.

Then there are definitions of "strong atheists" and "weak atheists" and more ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

atheism.about.com's definitions of atheism
http://atheism.about.com/od/definitionofatheism/a/definition.htm

I call myself an atheist, because I believe in atheism (no gods, no supernatural...) with about 90% certainty. I'm not 100% sure. Likewise, most people who call themselves atheists do not say they are completely sure, according to a poll conducted by Free Inquiry.

Many Christians believe in Christianity (belief in God, in the divinity of Jesus and so on -- there is no "maybe" or "possibly" in the definitions of Christianity), but many Christians aren't 100% sure of all or any of the tenets of Christianity. We don't call Christians "arrogant" (just for being Christians) and Christians don't divide into 2 camps - "Christ-eists" for ones who are 100% sure, and "Chrisnostics" for those who aren't 100% sure. And they don't have the "Christ-eists" calling the "Christnostics" wishy-washy fence sitters. And they don't have the "Chrisnostics" calling the "Christ-eists" arrogant and stupid (for claiming to know the unknowable).

I don't know why atheists got tarred and feathered with the notion that they are arrogantly 100% sure. Whereas in every other belief, there is no assumption that the believers are completely, absolutely, and totally 100% sure. I think it is strange that non-believers in God who aren't absolutely certain there is no god (as most aren't) feel the need to find some other name (like "agnostic" ).

I expect this % of not having a particular affiliation will ... SWBTATTReg May 2018 #1
K&R. I think your opinion is quite accurate. KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #44
The idea that there is a difference between "no religion". "agnostic" and "the dread 'A' word"? Moostache May 2018 #2
That's OK, we're not selling. MurrayDelph May 2018 #5
I'm sorry, I consider myself an atheist, but I don't claim to KNOW there is no God progree May 2018 #6
I've met some "evangelical atheists" who were 100% sure, ... JustABozoOnThisBus May 2018 #13
I agree totally - there are 100%'ers in all belief and "non-belief" systems progree May 2018 #16
Polysemy. Igel May 2018 #22
Do you honestly believe atheists and fundamentalist christians.... SergeStorms May 2018 #15
Thank you! Exactly ZERO atheists have shown up at my door trying to convert me flibbitygiblets May 2018 #20
Well said. SergeStorms May 2018 #24
The religious tax exemption is anti-Constitutional on its face. lagomorph777 May 2018 #36
What's good for the goose is good for the gander... KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #43
+1000. n/t. lindysalsagal May 2018 #45
You're right about atheist being basically a smear JesterCS May 2018 #41
Our English language classes are failing us... brooklynite May 2018 #30
The word "atheist" simply means "without a belief in a god or gods". It's implies nothing about smirkymonkey May 2018 #46
My wife is a prime example of this. OnlinePoker May 2018 #10
The difference is: You give all three alternatives because some don't know the difference. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #14
Agnostic is not atheist Drahthaardogs May 2018 #21
For example, I'm an agnostic, but not really an atheist. DetlefK May 2018 #26
Agreed; there is still a stigma attached to atheism. lagomorph777 May 2018 #31
So I wish the news media would quit shoving it down our throats ebbie15644 May 2018 #3
I never attended a religious service in my life unless someone got married, born or died. rzemanfl May 2018 #4
I must hang out with weird people Codeine May 2018 #7
Only three percent are willing to say they're atheists DavidDvorkin May 2018 #18
I know three atheists. Igel May 2018 #23
I am an un-closeted atheist; it took me a long time to come out. lagomorph777 May 2018 #32
I stopped believing a long time ago LittleGirl May 2018 #8
Like you left church but 18 yrs ago nondenominational marlakay May 2018 #33
I've been wanting to do meditation but LittleGirl May 2018 #34
Lol thats when you need it the most! marlakay May 2018 #40
A Wide Awakening relogic May 2018 #9
I'm a substitute organists titaniumsalute May 2018 #11
The church I clean is made for probably 100 JesterCS May 2018 #42
I refer to myself as a constitutional atheist. Javaman May 2018 #12
Clever! I like that. n/t LittleGirl May 2018 #35
Shouldn't they have asked Cold War Spook May 2018 #17
79% includes millions of 'Christians' who follow sexual predator Trump who ridicules Holy Communion. keithbvadu2 May 2018 #19
Publically I identify as a Protestant Raine May 2018 #25
Atheism isn't killing religion. Indifference is. DetlefK May 2018 #27
I agree, says this churchgoer. kwassa May 2018 #38
I don't agree. Hypocrisy is what's killing religion TexasBushwhacker May 2018 #39
No surprise. Much of religion in America is a fraud. I would have thought democratisphere May 2018 #28
Many modern Americans consider themselves "spiritual" but not religious, HopeAgain May 2018 #29
Yet, None Believers have little representation in Federal government. rogue emissary May 2018 #37
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