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56. Saying that Sanders would have won the election is nothing but a fantasy with not facts to support
Wed May 30, 2018, 02:36 PM
May 2018

Last edited Wed May 30, 2018, 08:21 PM - Edit history (1)

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Sanders lost the nomination because millions more voters voted for Hillary. That's a simple fact, simple math. If he could no motivate enough people to vote for him to get the nomination, what would anyone think that he'd get enough votes to win the GE? And I'm talking factual reasoning, not anecdotes.

Sanders was not vetted. Hillary treated him with kid gloves. Yet he had quite a bit of baggage. You think that the GOP wouldn't have been able to create a smear campaign against him in a matter of weeks? Rightly or wrongly they would have painted him as a commie-loving socialist dead-beat dad who never had a real job until he was 40 years old and then had a long but mediocre career in congress. And that would have just been the tip of the iceberg. Let's not even think what they would have done with Jane and her Burlington college mess.

Sanders would have been trounced in the GE. That would have been the only realistic outcome.

No, thank you. RandySF May 2018 #1
Exactly. "No, thank you." and Please No. Cha May 2018 #118
This....the thread should end with this Docreed2003 May 2018 #129
Exactly. Been there. Done that. No need to do it again. We all know... NurseJackie May 2018 #140
NO NO NO NO. trueblue2007 Jun 2018 #147
Please god no cyclonefence May 2018 #2
I'm 61 and I love him TexasBushwhacker May 2018 #3
I'm of the same mind LiberalLovinLug May 2018 #43
I have Republican friends who would have voted for Bernie over Trump TexasBushwhacker May 2018 #51
I think the russia stuff was directed primarily towards Hillary, honestly. Tiggeroshii May 2018 #61
I believe Putin has an agenda and needede a puppet in the White House. lunamagica May 2018 #65
Saying that Sanders would have won the election is nothing but a fantasy with not facts to support lunamagica May 2018 #56
Lots of truth there - the right wing would have excoriated him during the general election campaign! George II May 2018 #62
I'm sure there is so much more than what we could ever imagine. lunamagica May 2018 #67
I agree with your analysis Gothmog May 2018 #70
Agree! He will split the vote like the Green Party. Another 4 yrs of dotard..please Bernie think!! Thekaspervote May 2018 #75
I agree. He polled higher than Trump. secondwind May 2018 #126
Not good for the US liberal N proud May 2018 #4
Go away Bernie! DownriverDem May 2018 #32
Correction LiberalLovinLug May 2018 #46
Sorry, no. He lacks the judgement and temperament to be president. emulatorloo May 2018 #94
Wow, excellent post! Love this breath of fresh air and realism. R B Garr May 2018 #107
popular politicians do not inspire resentment and hatred. LSFL May 2018 #104
+1, absolute truth. nt R B Garr May 2018 #108
Most WELL-KNOWN politicians inspire some resentment and hatred. Jim Lane May 2018 #142
+1000 LiberalLovinLug Jun 2018 #146
This message was self-deleted by its author liberal N proud May 2018 #113
That is a misguided statement considering the history of his supporters liberal N proud May 2018 #115
Yes, "we do know how the Bernie supporters acted" -- they voted for Hillary. Jim Lane May 2018 #143
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! still_one May 2018 #5
Just say no. greatauntoftriplets May 2018 #6
That would be great! Tiggeroshii May 2018 #7
If by "good" cab67 May 2018 #10
I think he would be a great addition to the lot we seem to have already. We need a strong, healthy Tiggeroshii May 2018 #11
Exactly, cab.. he's too divisive. Cha May 2018 #119
One more time DownriverDem May 2018 #33
Exactly. Doodley May 2018 #39
Bernie has been a part of the Democratic caucus and Democratic committees holding true to his Tiggeroshii May 2018 #41
None of that matters to the Bernie haters who have yet to let go of the InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #80
Hopefully we do. Bernie or not, I think we will come around. Tiggeroshii May 2018 #81
I have to believe that... but, then I thought we had already united around Hillary in the interest InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #111
Since when do we only have a 2 party system, I must have missed something. vsrazdem May 2018 #50
It may even be more involved than that. There is a fair chance that trump will be challenged in still_one May 2018 #76
The republicans would love for Sanders to run in 2020. comradebillyboy May 2018 #88
no doubt still_one May 2018 #98
Go away Bernie! Botany May 2018 #8
I'd bet on it. comradebillyboy May 2018 #14
I'm not on the Bernie train radical noodle May 2018 #9
If Sanders won the Democratic nomination fair and square, how many Hillary supporters here Sophia4 May 2018 #12
There werent close to as many bernie dems who did that as we would be led to believe Tiggeroshii May 2018 #15
Of course I would vote for him DavidDvorkin May 2018 #16
Remember when disgruntled Hillary voters refused to vote for Obama? brooklynite May 2018 #25
fair and square yes DonCoquixote May 2018 #31
Fair and Square? DownriverDem May 2018 #35
Not me. n/t Tess49 May 2018 #44
By your own standards, it doesn't matter who people vote for in California R B Garr May 2018 #45
That is my question. Has something changed? Sophia4 May 2018 #91
You are asking who is going to vote for Sanders. R B Garr May 2018 #96
For that reason alone, we need someone other than the candidates that ran in 2016, because the still_one May 2018 #77
I was surprised to find out that PatrickforO May 2018 #97
Thanks for posting, especially this: Sophia4 May 2018 #106
Universal Health Care wasn't his platform. He pushed single payer only. R B Garr May 2018 #110
Interesting. At first I thought you were splitting hairs, but then I looked it up. PatrickforO May 2018 #112
Thanks for the explanation, and I'm glad you see that I wasn't R B Garr May 2018 #134
Yes. The costs. PatrickforO May 2018 #141
I don't disagree with your point Docreed2003 May 2018 #137
Didn't mean to step on toes, and I will concede the point I was over- PatrickforO May 2018 #144
We could play that what-if game for a long time but history showed us.. liberal N proud May 2018 #114
BS is an Independent. Cha May 2018 #120
It's time for Back Bench Bernie to... MarianJack May 2018 #13
He's still registered as an Independent - Right JustAnotherGen May 2018 #30
I sure hope DownriverDem May 2018 #37
I'm not going to lie to myself or anyone else JustAnotherGen May 2018 #40
At this early point,... MarianJack May 2018 #59
I'm quiety hoping for JustAnotherGen May 2018 #90
He'll just embarrass himself DavidDvorkin May 2018 #17
We Need One Thing Only Gymbo May 2018 #18
So now I read "No Socialists need apply" on a Democratic board. Jim Lane May 2018 #145
Kill. Me. Now. MANative May 2018 #19
I support Joe Biden EricMaundry May 2018 #20
I agree Gothmog May 2018 #73
I'm a Hillary guy . . . Gamecock Lefty May 2018 #21
I would rather not. We need the younger generation to step forward. Tarc May 2018 #22
Yay Bernie! Power 2 the People May 2018 #23
No Way DownriverDem May 2018 #49
no thanks. TeamPooka May 2018 #24
I would much rather see Bernie throw his complete support behind whoever the Democrat Nominee is. Stonepounder May 2018 #26
this Freddie May 2018 #28
Won't ever happen, as Bernie isn't a team player and he's not even a Democrat. Doodley May 2018 #38
I just don't see that ever happening. Bernie is the only comradebillyboy May 2018 #42
Yeah, that's not gonna happen. Cha May 2018 #122
Please dear god no Freddie May 2018 #27
Good lord no!!!!!! redstatebluegirl May 2018 #29
I'm okay with Bernie throwing his hat in the KPN May 2018 #34
Thankyou LiberalLovinLug May 2018 #48
Crickets... chirp! chirp! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #52
Sanders may have actually helped Hillary by quartz007 May 2018 #131
The result would be four more years of the Trump nightmare. Doodley May 2018 #36
Why do you say that? KPN May 2018 #95
Your statement isn't accurate. The problem you'll have with this angle R B Garr May 2018 #109
Well, Trump Has Shown That an Anti-Immigrant, Anti-Trade, Pro-Gun Platform Can Win TomCADem May 2018 #47
Bernie has a D- rating by the NRA, is pro-fair trade and the farthest from anti-immigrant Tiggeroshii May 2018 #54
Fartherst from anti-immigrant? Ask Lou Dobbs He and Sanders look like two peas in a pod lunamagica May 2018 #71
Oh goodness.... Tiggeroshii May 2018 #79
You obviously didn't watch the clip. That he wanted "more lletinent imigration laws" is something he lunamagica May 2018 #92
No and No... llmart May 2018 #53
How Progressive Can One Really Claim To Be Grokenstein May 2018 #55
Have you heard of the progressive caucus in the US House? The largest in congress? Tiggeroshii May 2018 #57
Oh come on, at least be inclusive. Sanders did NOT "found it"! George II May 2018 #64
Sorry. You know the Progressive Caucus in the US House? The largest in congress? Tiggeroshii May 2018 #66
Once again, it was founded by SIX Congress people, not just one: George II May 2018 #72
Not sure how "first and founding member" leads to any confusion. Tiggeroshii May 2018 #74
That's the take of "The Hill", no one else. Edit: meant "The Nation", not "The Hill". George II May 2018 #82
That's another point of divisiveness.. always Cha May 2018 #125
Six were involved, one gets credit. Sad. George II May 2018 #127
Bernie was a founding member AND it's Chairman for the first EIGHT years despite Uncle Joe May 2018 #117
Yes, "A founding member", not "THE founding member". Glad you concur, I've been trying... George II May 2018 #121
.. Uncle Joe May 2018 #123
And on the pedestal these words appear: Grokenstein May 2018 #68
Ha! DavidDvorkin May 2018 #84
Running Conservative Dem's doesn't give "more power to Republicans"? harun May 2018 #60
Go home Bernie you're drunk. we can do it May 2018 #58
Please no. awesomerwb1 May 2018 #63
No. 80 is too old. Thirties Child May 2018 #69
No, no, no, no, no.......NT jrthin May 2018 #78
"Mulling" another Pres run is hardly LBN, btw Wwcd May 2018 #83
This!!!! sheshe2 May 2018 #100
Because four years of Trump isn't enough?? NT Bleacher Creature May 2018 #85
Bernie is one of the most honest people in politics today quartz007 May 2018 #132
Give it a rest Bernie TEB May 2018 #86
There's a lot of registered Democrats who want a registered Democrat to represent the party. RelativelyJones May 2018 #87
I sure hope not handmade34 May 2018 #89
I was a big supporter of Bernie in 2016. However, PatrickforO May 2018 #93
if personal attacks worked against Trump, he wouldn't be president. yurbud May 2018 #99
I will give him a pass for 2016 LSFL May 2018 #101
Please no. We need someone new. Oneironaut May 2018 #102
Godess, I am begging you, please NO!!! efhmc May 2018 #103
Will he run as a Democrat and then decline the nomination? Adrahil May 2018 #105
I love Bernie Raine May 2018 #116
I don't like Sanders and I would love to Cha May 2018 #124
I'm With You Me. May 2018 #128
Mahalo, Me.. Cha May 2018 #130
Same here. n/t MBS May 2018 #139
Donald Trump is counting on it. PubliusEnigma May 2018 #133
The daily Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #135
Bernie, don't be "that guy" Blue Owl May 2018 #136
How exciting. MFM008 May 2018 #138
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