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Takket

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13. since no punishment.......

Fri Nov 23, 2018, 10:25 PM

Nov 2018

how about using this as a teaching moment?

A screening of Schindler's list

Milwaukee has a Holocaust museum, it is 2 hours away. Good field trip to organize for the kids AND their parents.

Bring in a survivor and/or historian to do a face to face with the kids in class

I'm willing to chalk up something like this to plain ignorance when kids and peer pressure are involved. Do we all really think that this entire group are hard core nazi's because they did this? If they don't understand the horrors of the Holocaust and why something like this isn't funny, then they need to be made to understand now, before it is too late.

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School District Won't Punish Students In Nazi Salute Prom Photo Due To First Amendment [View all] appalachiablue Nov 2018 OP

First time I've ever seen a school acknowledge a student's 1st Amendment rights TeamPooka Nov 2018 #1

The easy thing to do would be to violetpastille Nov 2018 #4

Tinker was not the final word on student speech in public high schools TeamPooka Nov 2018 #10

+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #26

There's also Bethel School District v. Fraser (1986) TeamPooka Nov 2018 #11

+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #27

I think they can still ban them from extracurricular activites pstokely Nov 2018 #52

I hope the admissions office of every Phoenix61 Nov 2018 #2

You took the words right out of my mouth. Laffy Kat Nov 2018 #5

Correct-I Think They might actually have come to right conclusion on 1st Amendment Stallion Nov 2018 #8

That student is gay and alleges he's been bullied... DonViejo Nov 2018 #12

Saw that too. Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #28

Can a college deny then entrance based on that pic? Polybius Nov 2018 #19

I'd imagine colleges can deny whomever they want. forgotmylogin Nov 2018 #23

+1 dalton99a Nov 2018 #36

Let black children throw up a fist in mass though... Basement Beat Nov 2018 #3

Indeed. eom guillaumeb Nov 2018 #6

Or a football player kneel..... Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #30

No code of conduct? Flaleftist Nov 2018 #7

I think the time has come to boycott Sauk County, Baraboo and their largest money makers. 33taw Nov 2018 #9

I proposed the same, but in addition send the school leaders back to school. Stuart G Nov 2018 #83

Their children are probably in the picture. 33taw Nov 2018 #86

since no punishment....... Takket Nov 2018 #13

Excellent ideas, which should be done. The only 'education' noted: appalachiablue Nov 2018 #15

Or this: Lucky Luciano Nov 2018 #21

Guaranteed waste of time and energy. Codeine Nov 2018 #24

That can't be true. Lucky Luciano Nov 2018 #25

You beat me to it. I think that liberalhistorian Nov 2018 #35

If this were a few of them I could see that explanation ringing true dsc Nov 2018 #14

Wonder if she would have the same reaction if it was African American Students holding up a fist? R Merm Nov 2018 #16

Or an African American football player kneeling during the anthem? snacker Nov 2018 #29

Every college should get a copy of this photo... beachbum bob Nov 2018 #17

And the military. Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #32

A teachable moment lost. Or maybe not. I hope they got real nervous there for a while. Nitram Nov 2018 #18

Sadly, in a way I understand Jake Stern Nov 2018 #20

That makes sense. JohnnyRingo Nov 2018 #22

+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #31

Glad none were my grandkids (lucky for them) JohnnyRingo Nov 2018 #39

Nice. Good lesson. Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #45

+10 nt reACTIONary Nov 2018 #61

Somehow I think if they'd yelled, "F- YOU, Mr. Principal!" -- dawg day Nov 2018 #33

I was thinking the same thing TexasBushwhacker Nov 2018 #37

+1 JudyM Nov 2018 #46

+2. A parent took the pic per a news story added to the OP. appalachiablue Nov 2018 #48

Frontline benld74 Nov 2018 #34

Frontline ProPublica, Documenting Hate, Neo- Nazis, saw it. appalachiablue Nov 2018 #49

In 10 or 20 yrs that photo will come back to haunt them if it turn up in a job seekers files . Historic NY Nov 2018 #38

In rural Wisconsin it only shows up if u signed the Walker recall dembotoz Nov 2018 #40

Baraboo is not entirely rural. Sauk county is dependent upon WI Dells and their tourist income. 33taw Nov 2018 #43

work with some businesses in that town..not that blue dembotoz Nov 2018 #47

Thank Trump The Wizard Nov 2018 #41

Disgusting! lilactime Nov 2018 #42

Good. They shouldn't punish them. It's free speech. SKKY Nov 2018 #44

Yes, they have the right of free speech blue-wave Nov 2018 #53

Do you feel that way about the right of schools to serve up consequences onenote Nov 2018 #56

I don't think there would be any need for consequences blue-wave Nov 2018 #57

You should study the first amendment. onenote Nov 2018 #59

You should study morality blue-wave Nov 2018 #60

Where's the morality clause in the 1st? X_Digger Nov 2018 #67

MMkay? blue-wave Nov 2018 #74

So, where's that clause, again? X_Digger Nov 2018 #75

I'll say it again blue-wave Nov 2018 #78

If you can keep from ascribing positions and opinions to me that I haven't taken, we're good. X_Digger Nov 2018 #79

Hmmm blue-wave Nov 2018 #80

Pointing out the similarity of your arguments to others is not a straw man. X_Digger Nov 2018 #82

That it, twist and turn blue-wave Nov 2018 #90

So, no answer to my core question. I thought not. n/t X_Digger Nov 2018 #97

The school has no grounds to punish these imbeciles for exercising their freedom of speech. Jedi Guy Nov 2018 #70

They are stupid HS kids MichMan Nov 2018 #50

I agree janterry Nov 2018 #51

I agree. LakeArenal Nov 2018 #66

Agreed. Jedi Guy Nov 2018 #71

I agree. California_Republic Nov 2018 #77

See, I only see this sentiment come out EllieBC Nov 2018 #94

Comedians used to imitate Nazis all the time. Soleta Nov 2018 #54

"in a state not known for hate group behavior" blue-wave Nov 2018 #76

This will follow these students far into their adult life, college and employment ebbie15644 Nov 2018 #55

Silly. jeffreyi Nov 2018 #58

No, they wouldn't be. Jedi Guy Nov 2018 #72

I stand corrected. jeffreyi Nov 2018 #81

I think they were encouraged . .. reACTIONary Nov 2018 #62

That's what I assumed based on early news stories suggesting appalachiablue Nov 2018 #63

Thanks for the link.... reACTIONary Nov 2018 #64

time for school uniforms samnsara Nov 2018 #65

Reprehensible conduct that will have social consequences, but still protected speech. n/t X_Digger Nov 2018 #68

I just want to throw it out hotrod0808 Nov 2018 #69

Did you do so on campus, during school hours? I'm guessing that was the case. Jedi Guy Nov 2018 #73

My understanding is hotrod0808 Nov 2018 #87

Time and place matter in incidents like these. Jedi Guy Nov 2018 #91

This message was self-deleted by its author hotrod0808 Nov 2018 #92

Its a white supremacist school district, so no surprise, every non-white student has a target on... Humanist_Activist Nov 2018 #84

High Schools Decide Giving Nazi Salute In Photo Won't Net Suspension, But Kneeling During National A JonLP24 Nov 2018 #85

Possibly a correct legal decision. davsand Nov 2018 #88

So would everyone have to write that 30-page paper to graduate, or just the kids in this photo? Jedi Guy Nov 2018 #93

If the entire graduating class has to write that paper then so be it. davsand Nov 2018 #95

I'm not interested in "justice" that victimizes those who have done nothing wrong. Jedi Guy Nov 2018 #96

Fair enough...but for educational purposes, have them sit through the Auschwitz films brooklynite Nov 2018 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Nov 2018 #98