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Jake Stern

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20. Sadly, in a way I understand

Fri Nov 23, 2018, 11:20 PM

Nov 2018

You know damn well that big name conservative legal organizations would jump in and help convince the Kavanaugh Konstitutional Kourt to rule 5-4 that the students rights were violated and then the district would be on the hook for big time $$$$$$.

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School District Won't Punish Students In Nazi Salute Prom Photo Due To First Amendment [View all] appalachiablue Nov 2018 OP

First time I've ever seen a school acknowledge a student's 1st Amendment rights TeamPooka Nov 2018 #1

The easy thing to do would be to violetpastille Nov 2018 #4

Tinker was not the final word on student speech in public high schools TeamPooka Nov 2018 #10

+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #26

There's also Bethel School District v. Fraser (1986) TeamPooka Nov 2018 #11

+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #27

I think they can still ban them from extracurricular activites pstokely Nov 2018 #52

I hope the admissions office of every Phoenix61 Nov 2018 #2

You took the words right out of my mouth. Laffy Kat Nov 2018 #5

Correct-I Think They might actually have come to right conclusion on 1st Amendment Stallion Nov 2018 #8

That student is gay and alleges he's been bullied... DonViejo Nov 2018 #12

Saw that too. Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #28

Can a college deny then entrance based on that pic? Polybius Nov 2018 #19

I'd imagine colleges can deny whomever they want. forgotmylogin Nov 2018 #23

+1 dalton99a Nov 2018 #36

Let black children throw up a fist in mass though... Basement Beat Nov 2018 #3

Indeed. eom guillaumeb Nov 2018 #6

Or a football player kneel..... Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #30

No code of conduct? Flaleftist Nov 2018 #7

I think the time has come to boycott Sauk County, Baraboo and their largest money makers. 33taw Nov 2018 #9

I proposed the same, but in addition send the school leaders back to school. Stuart G Nov 2018 #83

Their children are probably in the picture. 33taw Nov 2018 #86

since no punishment....... Takket Nov 2018 #13

Excellent ideas, which should be done. The only 'education' noted: appalachiablue Nov 2018 #15

Or this: Lucky Luciano Nov 2018 #21

Guaranteed waste of time and energy. Codeine Nov 2018 #24

That can't be true. Lucky Luciano Nov 2018 #25

You beat me to it. I think that liberalhistorian Nov 2018 #35

If this were a few of them I could see that explanation ringing true dsc Nov 2018 #14

Wonder if she would have the same reaction if it was African American Students holding up a fist? R Merm Nov 2018 #16

Or an African American football player kneeling during the anthem? snacker Nov 2018 #29

Every college should get a copy of this photo... beachbum bob Nov 2018 #17

And the military. Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #32

A teachable moment lost. Or maybe not. I hope they got real nervous there for a while. Nitram Nov 2018 #18

Sadly, in a way I understand Jake Stern Nov 2018 #20

That makes sense. JohnnyRingo Nov 2018 #22

+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #31

Glad none were my grandkids (lucky for them) JohnnyRingo Nov 2018 #39

Nice. Good lesson. Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #45

+10 nt reACTIONary Nov 2018 #61

Somehow I think if they'd yelled, "F- YOU, Mr. Principal!" -- dawg day Nov 2018 #33

I was thinking the same thing TexasBushwhacker Nov 2018 #37

+1 JudyM Nov 2018 #46

+2. A parent took the pic per a news story added to the OP. appalachiablue Nov 2018 #48

Frontline benld74 Nov 2018 #34

Frontline ProPublica, Documenting Hate, Neo- Nazis, saw it. appalachiablue Nov 2018 #49

In 10 or 20 yrs that photo will come back to haunt them if it turn up in a job seekers files . Historic NY Nov 2018 #38

In rural Wisconsin it only shows up if u signed the Walker recall dembotoz Nov 2018 #40

Baraboo is not entirely rural. Sauk county is dependent upon WI Dells and their tourist income. 33taw Nov 2018 #43

work with some businesses in that town..not that blue dembotoz Nov 2018 #47

Thank Trump The Wizard Nov 2018 #41

Disgusting! lilactime Nov 2018 #42

Good. They shouldn't punish them. It's free speech. SKKY Nov 2018 #44

Yes, they have the right of free speech blue-wave Nov 2018 #53

Do you feel that way about the right of schools to serve up consequences onenote Nov 2018 #56

I don't think there would be any need for consequences blue-wave Nov 2018 #57

You should study the first amendment. onenote Nov 2018 #59

You should study morality blue-wave Nov 2018 #60

Where's the morality clause in the 1st? X_Digger Nov 2018 #67

MMkay? blue-wave Nov 2018 #74

So, where's that clause, again? X_Digger Nov 2018 #75

I'll say it again blue-wave Nov 2018 #78

If you can keep from ascribing positions and opinions to me that I haven't taken, we're good. X_Digger Nov 2018 #79

Hmmm blue-wave Nov 2018 #80

Pointing out the similarity of your arguments to others is not a straw man. X_Digger Nov 2018 #82

That it, twist and turn blue-wave Nov 2018 #90

So, no answer to my core question. I thought not. n/t X_Digger Nov 2018 #97

The school has no grounds to punish these imbeciles for exercising their freedom of speech. Jedi Guy Nov 2018 #70

They are stupid HS kids MichMan Nov 2018 #50

I agree janterry Nov 2018 #51

I agree. LakeArenal Nov 2018 #66

Agreed. Jedi Guy Nov 2018 #71

I agree. California_Republic Nov 2018 #77

See, I only see this sentiment come out EllieBC Nov 2018 #94

Comedians used to imitate Nazis all the time. Soleta Nov 2018 #54

"in a state not known for hate group behavior" blue-wave Nov 2018 #76

This will follow these students far into their adult life, college and employment ebbie15644 Nov 2018 #55

Silly. jeffreyi Nov 2018 #58

No, they wouldn't be. Jedi Guy Nov 2018 #72

I stand corrected. jeffreyi Nov 2018 #81

I think they were encouraged . .. reACTIONary Nov 2018 #62

That's what I assumed based on early news stories suggesting appalachiablue Nov 2018 #63

Thanks for the link.... reACTIONary Nov 2018 #64

time for school uniforms samnsara Nov 2018 #65

Reprehensible conduct that will have social consequences, but still protected speech. n/t X_Digger Nov 2018 #68

I just want to throw it out hotrod0808 Nov 2018 #69

Did you do so on campus, during school hours? I'm guessing that was the case. Jedi Guy Nov 2018 #73

My understanding is hotrod0808 Nov 2018 #87

Time and place matter in incidents like these. Jedi Guy Nov 2018 #91

This message was self-deleted by its author hotrod0808 Nov 2018 #92

Its a white supremacist school district, so no surprise, every non-white student has a target on... Humanist_Activist Nov 2018 #84

High Schools Decide Giving Nazi Salute In Photo Won't Net Suspension, But Kneeling During National A JonLP24 Nov 2018 #85

Possibly a correct legal decision. davsand Nov 2018 #88

So would everyone have to write that 30-page paper to graduate, or just the kids in this photo? Jedi Guy Nov 2018 #93

If the entire graduating class has to write that paper then so be it. davsand Nov 2018 #95

I'm not interested in "justice" that victimizes those who have done nothing wrong. Jedi Guy Nov 2018 #96

Fair enough...but for educational purposes, have them sit through the Auschwitz films brooklynite Nov 2018 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Nov 2018 #98