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24. I don't know whether you intended to reply to me or TomVilmer, anciata

Mon Mar 25, 2019, 08:01 PM

Mar 2019

If you were aiming for Tom, he won't get a "My Posts" alert on your reply.

I'm genuinely curious what Tom's basing these claims on, then we can maybe discuss them. Or maybe we'll both have better things to do with our time!

"Greater centralization" puzzles me. It goes 100% against the EU doctrine of subsidiarity.

The EU is making moves towards greater military coordination between member countries, it's true. Whether that can be classed as "Fortress Europe" in a way that lives up to the sensational buzzword depends on whose interpretation you listen to. But then I live in Fortress UK, the second- or third-largest arms dealer in the world and keen poodle of US militarism, so maybe my tolerance for these things is different.

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BREAKING: British lawmakers seize control of Brexit process from government [View all] BumRushDaShow Mar 2019 OP

"which might include a second referendum"-- heavens, if there is any sanity left, I'd hope so... hlthe2b Mar 2019 #1

I was looking at the Guardian's coverage BumRushDaShow Mar 2019 #2

Am I to understand from this, that they will enact is a 2nd referendum to prevent a no-deal Brexit? ancianita Mar 2019 #5

From what I gather regarding these amendments BumRushDaShow Mar 2019 #7

I read the other day about plans to evacuate the Queen and the royal family if things go wrong. dewsgirl Mar 2019 #3

Are you kidding? Did you read why that would be necessary? I can't even imagine it. ancianita Mar 2019 #14

See below bronxiteforever Mar 2019 #15

Thank you. I have an NYT account but often miss articles. ancianita Mar 2019 #16

I can't keep up with all this insanity bronxiteforever Mar 2019 #17

Same here, and why our evil over here has resulted in my being uninformed about thinking over there. ancianita Mar 2019 #20

Seems like the queen would be the last person Brits would direct their ire toward. She IS England. ancianita Mar 2019 #21

Rioters don't think rationally, they just want to attack. marylandblue Mar 2019 #30

Not when it comes to the queen. They know the queen, AS England, is always on the people's side. ancianita Mar 2019 #34

Maybe, but if you were charge of the Queen's security, marylandblue Mar 2019 #36

Sure; but those in charge of that "scenario" make no comment of that possibility; neither would I. ancianita Mar 2019 #39

The article quotes an unnamed cabinet official, so take it for what it's worth. marylandblue Mar 2019 #42

Thank you, dewsgirl Mar 2019 #19

You are welcome bronxiteforever Mar 2019 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author EarthFirst Mar 2019 #18

Their action has become their only option. I wish them success, even as the votes are non-binding. ancianita Mar 2019 #4

My Tory MP unexpectedly grew a conscience, brain and spine, and voted against the government muriel_volestrangler Mar 2019 #6

This is not an easy choice... TomVilmer Mar 2019 #8

"EU is evolving fast to a more centralized and militarized model" Denzil_DC Mar 2019 #9

I'm curious about that, too. Do you have links to show this? ancianita Mar 2019 #13

I don't know whether you intended to reply to me or TomVilmer, anciata Denzil_DC Mar 2019 #24

OOPS. Sorry. I mis-tagged you. Tom Vilner. I'll fix it. ancianita Mar 2019 #26

I understand the EU's militarization as a direct answer to Trump and Russia, not centralization. ancianita Mar 2019 #32

I think any militarization needs keeping an eye on, obviously. Denzil_DC Mar 2019 #40

Sources... TomVilmer Mar 2019 #28

Thanks for such an informative list. It does look as if it's caused by Trump/Putin threat. ancianita Mar 2019 #35

None of which seems to live up to the hype of "Fortress Europe". Denzil_DC Mar 2019 #37

Thanks for many thoughts... TomVilmer Mar 2019 #44

In those terms of 'Fortress Europe' - putting up barriers against refugees muriel_volestrangler Mar 2019 #45

And thanks to you for a considered response from a different perspective. Denzil_DC Mar 2019 #46

Getting closer... TomVilmer Mar 2019 #47

Ha ha! What a small world ... Denzil_DC Mar 2019 #48

I was there around mid 80s... TomVilmer Mar 2019 #49

I wonder about your first sentence, too. Are there links to this model you describe? ancianita Mar 2019 #27

I need Jonathan Pie to explain this to my BigmanPigman Mar 2019 #10

He did a video just a few days ago muriel_volestrangler Mar 2019 #11

I know, I posted it. BigmanPigman Mar 2019 #12

Who is he? dewsgirl Mar 2019 #22

And Putin must be so happy with himself. dewsgirl Mar 2019 #23

He is a comedian (Tom Walker), playing a journalist who snaps when off air muriel_volestrangler Mar 2019 #29

His articulate gangsta anger doesn't hurt his clarity, either. Even if it's comedy, it's helpful. ancianita Mar 2019 #25

I know. Scary indeed. dewsgirl Mar 2019 #31

Brits are in a bad way....just like us. Irishxs Mar 2019 #33

Notice London's rapid international rise and fall is in this video, 'til they fall off the graph. ancianita Mar 2019 #38

Wow! Great graphic! Irishxs Mar 2019 #43

Kick ck4829 Mar 2019 #50

Today is the day they start deciding what to do next! nt BumRushDaShow Mar 2019 #51